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Hi Connie,

I checked out your sites you sent. I did find out a lot of stuff, but I want

to double check what he said on some of them. But most of it made sense to

me? Thank you for semdimg them my way.

Love

LU

> don't think anyone is claiming to " cure " here.

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> http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/rheumatoid_arthritis.htm

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> http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/wheat_gluten.htm

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> Take care and hugs to you all,

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Hi Lu :-)

(I've replied two other times to this post but it doesn't seem to

ever appear....I'll try one more time before I throw my computer out

the window! :-)

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Hi Lu :-)

You're very welcome.....yes, what Dr. Mercola has to say pretty much

goes against the grain of many mainstream treatments for rheumatic

diseases, but more and more docs who do decide to venture out on

these avenues are pleasantly surprised that it works (but they have

to use the correct protocol, as described by Mercola and others.

Sometimes, doctors try the antibiotic treatment, but not according to

the established protocol, and find less than optimal results. This

leads them to believe that the treatment does not work, while in

fact, there is much success in the treatment.)

The whole idea of using antibiotics to treat rheumatic diseases,

while several years ago was vehemently opposed by the vast medical

community, is slowly finding support and success. Dr. Mercola

furthers the issue by promoting diet as an invaluable tool, as well.

(I quickly admit that I fail miserably on the diet issue, and Mercola

would probably hang me :-) but thankfully, I'm doing well in spite of

my diet. It would probably do me a world of good, however, if I

would clean up my diet....just on general principles.) I don't know

much about the NST treatment that he mentions, but it has piqued my

curiosity.

My local internist started me on the antibiotic protocol over three

years ago for another rheumatic disease called dermatomyositis (DM).

A couple of years later, an ENT suggested that I might also have

RP. At this point....I may never know for sure, as the antibiotic

treatment has my DM so well under control, and almost eliminated.

The symptoms of cough, ear pain, throat manifestations, etc. are much

improved and may well be either DM or RP.

One thing that really got my interest was the fact that Dr. Trentham

sometimes advocates the use of the antibiotic Minocin in treating

RP. To me, this is a huge factor. Through the rheumatic group I

have come to realize that Dr. Trentham has a long involvement with

the development of antibiotics for rheumatic disease. He usually

only uses Minocin and not the other abx such as Zithromax and Biaxin,

but has admitted the reason for this is to remain " mainstream " with

his Harvard contemporaries.

Anyway.......Lu :-) again, I've rambled on. The main point is that

Mercola is speaking out and I'm very glad that he has for my health

is in a lot better shape because of his convictions. If you need to

ask any questions, please do so. You guys in this group are all very

important to me. I've seen his treatment work, not only for me, but

for many many others I've met both online and in person. Although

I've never met an RP person who has adopted the antibiotic protocol

for a long length of time, I have a strong suspicion that the

protocol would be helpful there, as well. That's why I keep hanging

around :-)

Take care and lots of hugs,

Connie

> Hi Connie,

> I checked out your sites you sent. I did find out a lot of stuff,

but I want

> to double check what he said on some of them. But most of it made

sense to

> me? Thank you for semdimg them my way.

> Love

> LU

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> > don't think anyone is claiming to " cure " here.

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> > http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/rheumatoid_arthritis.htm

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> > http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/wheat_gluten.htm

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> > Take care and hugs to you all,

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I don't know, :-) Tell me which of Mercola's comments that you

find strange or the strangest anyway. I do know that even in the

rheumatic group (known for more " on the fringe " treatments at times),

there are a variety of people with varying levels of agreement with

Mercola.

All in all, I get the feeling that he is very sincere and passionate

in what he preaches. He even makes his patients agree to adopt his

diet recommendations before he will agree to treat them! (I'd flunk

right there ;-) I do feel that he is 100% legitimate, with a real

medical practice up there in Schaumberg, Illinois. I do think his

feelings on the antibiotic protocol are right in line with other

doctors who use it on a regular basis....so in that respect, he's in

line with his comtemporaries.

Hope we can talk some more about all of this " stuff " :-)

Take care,

Connie H.

> Connie,

> Do you agree with everything on this diet. Some of the things I

find very strange and others I totally agree with.

> W

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Discussion on this would be great. Send me the link again please and I'll go

through it and send the ones I found kinda strange.

Thanks!!

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:-) Tell me which of Mercola's comments that you

find strange or the strangest anyway.

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Sure thing :-) His main website is www.mercola.com and the two sites

I mentioned are

http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/rheumatoid_arthritis.htm

and

http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/26/wheat_gluten.htm

Take care,

Connie

> Discussion on this would be great. Send me the link again please

and I'll go through it and send the ones I found kinda strange.

> Thanks!!

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> :-) Tell me which of Mercola's comments that you

> find strange or the strangest anyway.

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Hi Connie,

Do you know the reason he says to avoid carrots and underground veggies?

Drinking water at room temperature instead of iced or chilled?

Skim milk? I always buy that. I know it's better that regular milk, because

it's lower in fat content.

a.. No need for children to drink any milk after age of 2 years --do you know

why?

b.. Why does he say to avoid bananas and oranges?

c.. A lot of what he writes sounds great to me. I just didn't understand the

reasoning behind these particular ones and was hoping you could help.

d.. Thanks for these links. It's always great to learn new things that will help

RP.

e..

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Hi :-)

Somewhere, buried in his website is the expanded version explaining

why he recommends a particluar food, or way of doing things. I think

it's at: http://www.mercola.com/forms/wellness_condensed.htm

and I think, if you use his search option you can type in words like

milk, water, or whatever. (also try arthritis, too)

Here's what I found on your particular questions:

> Do you know the reason he says to avoid carrots and underground

veggies?

" Not all vegetables are created equal.

Avoid iceberg lettuce as it has minimal nutritional value: kale,

Swiss chard and collards, and spinach are better options. You may

want to steam the stems separately from the leaves because they

require longer cooking time. Carrots are high in sugar and generally

should be limited. Dandelion greens, green and red cabbage, broccoli,

red and green leaf lettuce, romaine lettuce, endive, Chinese cabbage,

bok Choy, fennel, celery, cucumbers, cauliflower, escarole, zucchini,

brussel sprouts, collard greens, kale, kohlrabi, and parsley are also

good choices. The greener the vegetable, the more good chlorophyll

nutrition is present. "

I think the sugar factor is the reason he says to avoid carrots and

underground veggies, . I don't think he argues that they don't

have nutritive value, but that there are better choices.

> Drinking water at room temperature instead of iced or chilled?

, I can't find the place where he describes why he recommends

room temp water. I remember reading it somewhere,

though....something about the stomach being able to deliver it to the

body better if its at room temp (probably the closer to body temp,

the better...but who wants to drink 98.6 degree water? :-)

> Skim milk? I always buy that. I know it's better that regular

milk, because it's lower in fat content.

read his link at: http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm

> a.. No need for children to drink any milk after age of 2 years --

do you know why? Again, it's mentioned on the above site. It mostly

has to do with allergies and the hormones and stuff that are fed to

the cows.

> b.. Why does he say to avoid bananas and oranges?

on that same site: " 11. No Bananas /Oranges

It would be best to avoid oranges, and bananas. There is 300% more

potassium in dark green vegetables such as kale than there is in

bananas. Bananas also have concentrated sugar levels. Local fruits

like apples, plums, and strawberries would be better.

However, be careful and do not have more than three servings of fruit

per day. Also avoid dried fruits, especially raisins. The best time

to eat the fruit would be before bed, as it would help increase the

amount of tryptophan crossing the blood brain barrier which will

increase serotonin levels and improve any depressive tendencies "

> c.. A lot of what he writes sounds great to me. I just didn't

understand the reasoning behind these particular ones and was hoping

you could help.

You're not alone, . I think a lot of people wonder if he's off

his rocker LOL, but when we look at his reasoning, there is cause to

re-think our dietary habits.

> d.. Thanks for these links. It's always great to learn new things

that will help RP.

> e..

You're welcome :-) Hope it helps. Hey, maybe we all could really

try this for two weeks and see......then we could contact him?

Take care and lots of hugs,

Connie

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Connie,

You're a wealth of information. Thanks for looking all that up for me.

Hey, I'm game for doing it for 2 weeks to see if it helps.

Thanks again,

W

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:-) Hope it helps. Hey, maybe we all could really

try this for two weeks and see......then we could contact him?

Take care and lots of hugs,

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