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Ok, I have a delicate question from TWO of our suport group members. Same

issue for both. They have both had to pay plumbers to come 'snake' out their

toilets becayse they become stopped up from the ENORMOUS sixe of their um,

feces. They want to know---this is a serious question that I absolutely have

no idea how to answer-- if there is some way to make the diameter of their

evacuations smaller so they will fit down the toilet better.

What are they eating? yes, I asked. Some meat, some salad, some protein

drink, nothing outrageous like ten tons of cereal of anything. They drink

lots of water and the stools are moderately firm (yes, I wrote down ALL the

details) and larger around than a banana slightly. (oh brother, Im never

going to live this down)

ok. what do you know? One person has already paid over 150 to unstop up

toilet. Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres being thrown down

there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and down. These are not those

low flow toilets that wont flush a dandyline fluff down. they are apparently

just regular ones.

Is there something they might be eating that bulks up the stool to the

diameter of a cucumber? Can anything take it down to something more

reasonably, like the diameter of a hotdog. Man, this is really so completely

silly, I am laughing qwhile writing this.... grin

all best

cpe

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In a message dated 12/10/2002 4:17:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres being thrown down

> there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and down.

My friend the plumber says it is extremely unlikely that poop and poop alone

will clog the toilet. He recommended flushing at the first sound of a

splash, and making sure that no toilet paper is accompanying the big poops.

If it's a big load, and it gets wrapped in paper, that is more likely to

cause a clog. So - here's the drill (it's a three flush scenario, so I hope

they aren't in a drought situation):

1. First splash, flush

2. Finish the poop, flush

3. Wipe, flush

Kate

(between my distal procedure, my hubby's distal procedure and two kids, we

talk poop around here all the time)

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I hope there is someone out there who can answer this. My toilet works, but

this hurts my butt. It is so hard to believe something this wide can come

out of me. I'm not sure my babies were this big. I was going to ask doc

next visit. Fay Bayuk

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In a message dated 12/10/2002 9:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kateseidel@... writes:

> 1. First splash, flush

> 2. Finish the poop, flush

> 3. Wipe, flush

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ROFLMAO Yup, works for me! One of the problems with constipation is if you

miss a day, it sometimes makes up for it the next day. One other tip? Keep

a plunger handy! LOL

in NJ

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I have the same problem. Low flow, high flow same problem. And another

thing is mine is not fully formed unless I'm constipated. Usually it is like

(excuse me), mashed potatoes, but it is sooooooo much it stops the toilet.

When I asked my surgeon about it he said I certainly don't have the usual

problems, but could not give me an answer.

Neci

RNY

11/20/00

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How about regular ol " stool stofteners " .......if I take ANY kind of medicine

I HAVE to take 3 of these every morning or I will be in the ER having them

unplug ME!!!!! I would think that making them " softer " should help!! They

are wicked cheap...my pharmacy sells them for $3.00 for 100!! HTH.....

P.

a rather ahem, shi--y subject

> Ok, I have a delicate question from TWO of our suport group members. Same

> issue for both. They have both had to pay plumbers to come 'snake' out

their

> toilets becayse they become stopped up from the ENORMOUS sixe of their um,

> feces. They want to know---this is a serious question that I absolutely

have

> no idea how to answer-- if there is some way to make the diameter of their

> evacuations smaller so they will fit down the toilet better.

>

> What are they eating? yes, I asked. Some meat, some salad, some protein

> drink, nothing outrageous like ten tons of cereal of anything. They drink

> lots of water and the stools are moderately firm (yes, I wrote down ALL

the

> details) and larger around than a banana slightly. (oh brother, Im never

> going to live this down)

>

> ok. what do you know? One person has already paid over 150 to unstop up

> toilet. Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres being thrown

down

> there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and down. These are not those

> low flow toilets that wont flush a dandyline fluff down. they are

apparently

> just regular ones.

>

> Is there something they might be eating that bulks up the stool to the

> diameter of a cucumber? Can anything take it down to something more

> reasonably, like the diameter of a hotdog. Man, this is really so

completely

> silly, I am laughing qwhile writing this.... grin

>

> all best

> cpe

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

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>

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>

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I beg to differ from the plumber. I have plugged up

toilets at home, at work, at friends' homes, in hotel

rooms, etc. This was never a problem before surgery.

In fact, the description of this situation given by

the original poster was very accurate. My plunger at

home receives almost daily use. And I now carry a

small plunger in my car for traveling purposes.

The three flush system suggested is a good thought.

One I've already tried. The problem is the diameter

of the bowl movements. So when the toilet is flushed

doesn't made much of a difference. The diameter of the

feces and the problem remains the same.

One more thought. I realize this is a delicate

subject. I am usually a private person and have done

much more lurking than posting. However, we have all

been surgically altered and we must be able to discuss

any situation this may create. No matter how

uncomfortable. With this group being 3000 strong,

I'm guessing there are others with the same questions

and concerns.

Gayle

________

> Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres

being thrown down

> there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and

down.

My friend the plumber says it is extremely unlikely

that poop and poop

alone

will clog the toilet.

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And to add to this subject....do you find that with the excess butt

skin....you sometimes smear the offensive object all over the place?

I have to literally spread my butt cheeks to have a bm or have one heck of a

mess. I'm been in a public restroom, using those darn paper sheets to clean

up the toilet set, then trying to wash my butt!

I make it a habit to carry around baby washups in my purse now...not

flushable but they do help.

Sue in Las Vegas

Who is also a three flusher!

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I beg to differ from the plumber. I have plugged up

toilets at home, at work, at friends' homes, in hotel

rooms, etc. This was never a problem before surgery.

In fact, the description of this situation given by

the original poster was very accurate. My plunger at

home receives almost daily use. And I now carry a

small plunger in my car for traveling purposes.

The three flush system suggested is a good thought.

One I've already tried. The problem is the diameter

of the bowl movements. So when the toilet is flushed

doesn't made much of a difference. The diameter of the

feces and the problem remains the same.

One more thought. I realize this is a delicate

subject. I am usually a private person and have done

much more lurking than posting. However, we have all

been surgically altered and we must be able to discuss

any situation this may create. No matter how

uncomfortable. With this group being 3000 strong,

I'm guessing there are others with the same questions

and concerns.

Gayle

________

> Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres

being thrown down

> there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and

down.

My friend the plumber says it is extremely unlikely

that poop and poop

alone

will clog the toilet.

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> I hope there is someone out there who can answer this. My toilet

works, but

> this hurts my butt. It is so hard to believe something this wide

can come

> out of me. I'm not sure my babies were this big. I was going to

ask doc

> next visit. Fay Bayuk

***********************************

Fay,

I started taking a (one cap) stool softener every day. I asked my

PCP about this and he told me that they were fine for every day where

a laxative was not. They really have helped me with the constipation

and the really large BM's. If things get a little more firm than

needed, I add an extra cap. Hope this helps you. I would suggest

that you ask your doc as well, just to be sure.

Reba in Auburn, AL

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Can we get off this subject??? I just has 3 days of kids with flu

complete with dead of the night cleanups. That was preceeded by a

week of my kids discussing what foods were good to change poop

different colors (beets, spinach, popcorn...Mom how come carrots

don't make your poop orange? How come babies' poop is green?? How

come bird poop is white?) Ugh. The joys of motherhood

> How about regular ol " stool stofteners " .......if I take ANY kind of

medicine

> I HAVE to take 3 of these every morning or I will be in the ER

having them

> unplug ME!!!!! I would think that making them " softer " should

help!! They

> are wicked cheap...my pharmacy sells them for $3.00 for 100!!

HTH.....

> P.

> a rather ahem, shi--y subject

>

>

> > Ok, I have a delicate question from TWO of our suport group

members. Same

> > issue for both. They have both had to pay plumbers to

come 'snake' out

> their

> > toilets becayse they become stopped up from the ENORMOUS sixe of

their um,

> > feces. They want to know---this is a serious question that I

absolutely

> have

> > no idea how to answer-- if there is some way to make the diameter

of their

> > evacuations smaller so they will fit down the toilet better.

> >

> > What are they eating? yes, I asked. Some meat, some salad, some

protein

> > drink, nothing outrageous like ten tons of cereal of anything.

They drink

> > lots of water and the stools are moderately firm (yes, I wrote

down ALL

> the

> > details) and larger around than a banana slightly. (oh brother,

Im never

> > going to live this down)

> >

> > ok. what do you know? One person has already paid over 150 to

unstop up

> > toilet. Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres being

thrown

> down

> > there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and down. These are

not those

> > low flow toilets that wont flush a dandyline fluff down. they are

> apparently

> > just regular ones.

> >

> > Is there something they might be eating that bulks up the stool

to the

> > diameter of a cucumber? Can anything take it down to something

more

> > reasonably, like the diameter of a hotdog. Man, this is really so

> completely

> > silly, I am laughing qwhile writing this.... grin

> >

> > all best

> > cpe

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Now, you KNOW this subject will come up again a few months down the

road, don't you? I think we should put this whole thread in the

database, so we can refer newbies for their " all you ever wanted to

know about post-op poop and more " questions. :))

in NJ

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This tooooooo funny! As a " gag " gift I am giving my husband a super

hydrolic plunger for Christmas! No lie, they carry them at Walmart,

when I saw it, I had to buy it! Our main bathroom wasn't flushing

right even just liguid or empty, so my husband took the tolilet off

the floor and ROOTS from the jasmine vines out front had grown into

the darn toilet! So the problem is semi-fixed but the problem still

happens . . . gosh I love those industrial models at stadiums!

:o) Vicki

> And to add to this subject....do you find that with the excess butt

> skin....you sometimes smear the offensive object all over the place?

> I have to literally spread my butt cheeks to have a bm or have one

heck of a

> mess. I'm been in a public restroom, using those darn paper sheets

to clean

> up the toilet set, then trying to wash my butt!

> I make it a habit to carry around baby washups in my purse now...not

> flushable but they do help.

>

> Sue in Las Vegas

> Who is also a three flusher!

>

> Re: a rather ahem, shi--y subject

>

>

> I beg to differ from the plumber. I have plugged up

> toilets at home, at work, at friends' homes, in hotel

> rooms, etc. This was never a problem before surgery.

>

> In fact, the description of this situation given by

> the original poster was very accurate. My plunger at

> home receives almost daily use. And I now carry a

> small plunger in my car for traveling purposes.

>

> The three flush system suggested is a good thought.

> One I've already tried. The problem is the diameter

> of the bowl movements. So when the toilet is flushed

> doesn't made much of a difference. The diameter of the

> feces and the problem remains the same.

>

> One more thought. I realize this is a delicate

> subject. I am usually a private person and have done

> much more lurking than posting. However, we have all

> been surgically altered and we must be able to discuss

> any situation this may create. No matter how

> uncomfortable. With this group being 3000 strong,

> I'm guessing there are others with the same questions

> and concerns.

>

> Gayle

> ________

>

>

> > Is it tissue paper, old bottle caps, old brassieres

> being thrown down

> > there I asked? Nope. Just poop they swear up and

> down.

>

> My friend the plumber says it is extremely unlikely

> that poop and poop

> alone

> will clog the toilet.

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/11/2002 7:54:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,

terry@... writes:

> I know that there are some that say they're flushable on the package, I

> think they're the ones designed for adults maybe.

>

Cottonelles are flushable (but I think they smell funny)

Kate

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do you find that with the excess butt skin....you sometimes smear the

offensive object all over the place?

********************************

OH man!!!! I won't EVEN go there! I think this is VERY much WHY I am

having so many UTI's. No matter HOW well I try to keep things

clean...when stuck out in public.....well...you just do the best you

can. I guess it isn't always good enough. With out a SHOWER in every

restroom in every public place......I have no chance. I know I am

getting very close to making a decision about plastic surgery.

BUTTTTTTTT........... I don't wanna have any more surgeries!!! Waaaaaaa.

AND I especially don't want the military to do the surgeries. They won't

do what I want them to do. They will just do a plain old panni

(thingymajigger) and I really think the butt and thighs have to be

addressed as well to fix this constant UTI thing. So, I am hoping for a

lower body lift........if I go at all. LoL That is me.........all or

NOTHING! Not to mention, I haven't been real impressed with the results

coming from the military hospital that would do this.

{{{{{{{{SIGH}}}}}}}} I can't believe that I am ACTUALLY even considering

more surgery. CEEP!!!!!!! Will you come and hold my hand?

Debbie in Gig Harbor

ladybostons@...

www.paws2print.com

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The baby wipes aren't flushable???? Uh oh! I've been using them ever since

I had my revision 2 1/2 months ago. I know that there are some that say

they're flushable on the package, I think they're the ones designed for

adults maybe.

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I make it a habit to carry around baby washups in my purse now...not

flushable but they do help.

Sue in Las Vegas

Who is also a three flusher!

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I have 4 kids and this is a constant subject.........they remark everytime

they eat " Fruit Loops " (once in a blue-moon) that they are going to have

" green poops " now!!!!!! :) P.

That was preceeded by a

week of my kids discussing what foods were good to change poop

different colors

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> > 1. First splash, flush

> > 2. Finish the poop, flush

> > 3. Wipe, flush

>**************************************

>In this neck of the woods that first flush is known as the courtesy flush

>as it's supposed to also minimize how much of that special aroma you share

>with the rest of the world. I've also heard variations on this method -

>sometimes with time delimited guidelines for determining the most

>efficient number of flushes are required per incident in order to be

>allowed to continue usage of the facilities without undue ridicule from

>coworkers.

>

>

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O.K.......I wasn't gonna say anything, but I just gotta. A couple of months

(or maybe weeks) ago I read an article in a magazine that stated that this

is not good for us. The " courtesy flush " exposes our neatherparts to

certain bacterias and bad stuff that is always present in the toilet water!

They said spanking clean or not when you courtesy flush while on the pot it

creates a " mist " that comes up and sprays you!!!!!! just my .02!! P.

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>

> > > 1. First splash, flush

> > > 2. Finish the poop, flush

> > > 3. Wipe, flush

> >**************************************

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Can you stand one more post on the subject??? We had to have Roto Rooter

come on Tues to clean the toilet trap. They also replaced the flapper thing

in the tank to help with the pressure of the flow.

Vicki in IA

VBG 6-97 364/212

RNY 6-29-01 295/185/160?

Hernia Repair and panni 11/19/02

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