Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 Don't mean to vent my frustration here but where else can I? How many of us have been told that we have a mental problem instead of a physical/medical/neurological problem first or somewhere along this journey?.... How long did you have to live with that tag before a dx of MSA, OPCA, etc. was reached? Those previous diagnostic opinions don't leave our medical records and may bias someone into coming to the conclusion of the person having a Somatoform disorder (Somatoform disorders: A group of psychiatric disorders characterized by physical symptoms that suggest but are not fully explained by a physical disorder and that cause significant distress or interfere with social, occupational, or other functioning). or Somatization disorder(A chronic, severe psychiatric disorder characterized by many recurring clinically significant physical complaints (including pain and GI, sexual, and neurologic symptoms) that cannot be explained fully by a physical disorder). Or Malengering (Definition: The deliberate exaggeration of psychological and/or physical cmplaints for purposes of tangible gain ie: attention) or Hypochondriasis (Definition: When a patient remains preoccupied with the fear that they have a serious medical illness despite the fact that medical evaluation has ruled out such an illness. Although the belief is not of delusional intensity, attempts at reassurance fail to convense the person otherwise). instead of MSA? These are only some of the battles that we face in trying to find an answer to our physical problems. Doctors ARE trained to identify those disorders. Our PD+ symptoms don't fit the " textbook " from medical school from which our doctors were taught. That is why we seek out " Movement disorder specialists. " Sometimes, even that isn't enough. I have had at least 3 neuro's tell me, " In my entire years of practice, you are the first person that I have ever met with this disease. " How can you get funding or attention when you have to first explain and provide proof written on their level...scholarly journals.... to get them to learn how to treat you in the first place? To get them to believe that you REALLY do have something wrong with you? I take my hat off to the centers of excellence that deal with this disease and the doctors who have gone past the learning of their medical education to learn how to help those of us with OPCA, MSA, etc. and to research actively for finding a cause and then a cure. I for one do not wish this disease on anyone...even the famous.... it hurts too bad to want anyone else to have to experience it. Don't get me wrong... I do understand your point.... but what a shame that we would even have to think of such a thing. I don't have any answers, just putting my two cents worth of frustration in. Hugs, Deborah Jim, You know, I have been having the same thoughts. ALS gets much more attention, and I just read that about 30,000 in the US have ALS -- the estimate for MSA is 25,000 to 100,000. At the Boston conference we learned that 20% of patients with Parkinsonism (not Parkinson's disease) actually have MSA, although many are misdiagnosed as having Parkinson's disease or are still seeking diagnosis. I have two thoughts on this dilemma. First, kids born with rare disorders are much more sympathetic than adults who develop disorders later in life. This is especially true of kids who look normal, like the bubble-boy kid. Second, no one famous has had MSA. Look at the attention Dudley brought to PSP, J. Fox to Parkinson's and Lou Gerhig to ALS. I certainly don't wish this disease on anyone, but if someone famous happens to get it would be a boon to name recognition and probably to research. Carol & Rob Lexington, MA Stem Cell research I keep hearing that MSA is so rare, as a reason for the lack of research, funds, etc. But surely the " bubble boy disease " is more rare than MSA! Anyway it looks like someone somewhere is making progress with stem cells. This article was in our newspaper yesterday. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted on Fri, Jun. 28, 2002 New gene restores immune system By PAUL RECER The Associated Press WASHINGTON - A single injection of genetically modified stem cells is all it took to cure two children of a complex form of an inherited immune system disorder often referred to as the " bubble boy disease, " researchers report. An experimental technique that altered genes in bone marrow stem cells restored the immune systems of the children, researchers from Italy and Israel reported in the journal Science. The children were born with what experts said was the most complex form of severe combined immunodeficiency disorder, or SCID. " Both children have been cured, but ... both will be closely followed to see how it develops in the future, " said Grazia Roncarolo of the San Raffaele Telethon Institute for Gene Therapy in Milan, Italy. The children, who were 7 months and 2 1/2 years old when the therapy began, were released with healthy, functioning immune systems 15 months to 24 months ago, Roncarolo said. Their form of SCID was caused by a gene flaw that blocks production of an enzyme called ADA, essential to the body's production of disease-fighting immune cells. The treatment consisted of removing stem cells from the bone marrow of each patient, inserting a normal gene for ADA into the stem cells and injecting the new cells into the patients. A chemotherapy drug was used to encourage the migration of the modified cells back to the bone marrow. The children's bone marrow soon began producing normal disease-fighting blood cells. Within months, their immune systems overcame common childhood infections that had not responded to treatment. French researchers an-nounced in April that they had corrected genetic flaws in the immune systems of five boys who had X-linked SCID, the most common form of the immune system disorder. ONLINE: Science: www.sciencemag.org If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 Dear Deborah: I have read your note several times and I think I must say one thing. You are right; doctors do tend to say that anything they don't understand must be psychological, and that is unfair. However, as a retired psychotherapist, I need to put in my two cents. One of the most helpful things for both Ken and me over the years was to play a self-hypnotic tape for relieving stress and anxiety as well as pain when we went to bed. He always said he never heard the end of it, but he knew it was the reason he always slept so well. I have seen Hypnotherapists (better than I was) help people have surgery without anesthetics and without bleeding. I do not fully understand how this can be, but I have seen it. The first Neurologist we went to had a Psychologist, an Acupuncturist, and a Biofeedback specialist to help her in her office. She used acupuncture herself when she sprained her ankle. She is the one who helped us get Selegiline from Europe before it was available here, and she was a superb diagnostician, but she recognized that there is a place in medicine for treatments other than just physical. We never would have left her if she were still in this area. So, although I do not think it is fair of doctors to call what they do not understand mental, I think there is a big place for psychological help in the medical field, especially the Neurological field since both Psychology and Neurology deal with the brain. I pray that you and will find the Serenity you are looking for and that your love for each other will guide you. Hugs, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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