Re: To Mark

[Guest guest]

Mark, I am sorry that you had such results that caused you anguish,

and I hope that you will find that repairs serve you well.

I don't understand why your oral and maxillofacial surgeons could not

see " a hole, " especially when (I gather) you told them your troubles.

But assigning blame is much less important than finding a path to the

results you want, methinks. (Who pays for what is a much more

complicated issue, as I reckon you know.) In any case, I'm glad you

have found folks you trust to help you.

Do you know that the deviated septum happened in the surgery? That

surprises me, too, but I am no doc. Do you know that the hole did, as

well? Just wondering.

My surgeon did a most excellent job of laying out the possibilities,

I think. Everything from death due to anesthesia (very rare, but it

can happen if someone screws up, or if you have a hidden or unknown

problem) to numbness and loss of facial function. In the end, I

trusted his candor, and believe he would have been in there pitching

for me if I'd had a serious complaint.

I would never suggest that it's not a good idea to get a second, or

third, or seventh (for that matter) opinion, if you're in the least

confused or dismayed by anything a prospective surgeon tells you. But

I think it is unrealistic to expect a surgeon to be able to warn you

of every possibility. I still don't understand, though, why an X-ray,

even, wouldn't have shown the trouble that hit you.

Duh! for me, I reckon.

But even if a doc does not " sugar-coat, " if you want a second

opinion, you should get one. And if any doc objects to that, it would

be a real warning flag to me. I want no physician nor dentist who is

unwilling to consult with peers in the field.

Cammie

>

>

> Just information to all those getting the Leforte or upper jaw

> procedure. Be sure to consult with your physician on all the

> complications this can cause with your nose and sinuses.

>

> I am now 5 months post-op and have been complaining about a nasally

> speech that my doc and others had no answers for. Well I finally

went

> to an ENT who found the problem. Apparently, there is a hole in my

> septum that is causing this. I will be having that repaired along

> with a very deviated septum all a direct result of the Leforte

> procedure. It has affected my appearance, voice and breathing.

>

> Not to scare anyone from having this procedure, but everyone needs

to

> know all the possible outcomes. Maybe it was a rare problem for

me,

> but I wish I had known this could happen. If your doc sugar coats

> the answer, then get a second opinion.

>

>

> Mark

[Guest guest]

Hi Cammie:

Yeah, I also don't understand why my surgeon did not see the hole.

Apparently the ENT could see it by just looking inside. Could it be

they won't acknowledge any problems that is a result from the

surgery? I think my surgeons skills were very good, but during my

office visits, he is not very thorough and always seems rushed and

forgets things that he promised to check.

My septum was clearly crooked by the surgery, but when the surgeon

wrote the referral to the ENT in the letter it was worded very

general as if it was a previous problem. Contradictory to the letter,

my surgeon told me that when he saw me in the recovery room it looked

like someone had sat on my nose and he was very suprised. I kept

telling him at each visit that my nose also felt different inside.

My voice was never nasally before the surgery and the ENT said he

could see that it happened when they moved my upper forward and

leveled it.

But what has been frustrating was the fact that I didn't want to lay

blame, but just have someone acknowledge the problem and get it

corrected. I am glad that it can be fixed, so I can talk normal

again. When it's all done the overall result will be much better. My

braces come off in June, so I'm hoping I'll be looking at a straight

nose and a wonderful smile. Then I'll feel like I'm back to normal

with no regrets.

Mark

> >

> >

> > Just information to all those getting the Leforte or upper jaw

> > procedure. Be sure to consult with your physician on all the

> > complications this can cause with your nose and sinuses.

> >

> > I am now 5 months post-op and have been complaining about a

nasally

> > speech that my doc and others had no answers for. Well I finally

> went

> > to an ENT who found the problem. Apparently, there is a hole in

my

> > septum that is causing this. I will be having that repaired

along

> > with a very deviated septum all a direct result of the Leforte

> > procedure. It has affected my appearance, voice and breathing.

> >

> > Not to scare anyone from having this procedure, but everyone

needs

> to

> > know all the possible outcomes. Maybe it was a rare problem for

> me,

> > but I wish I had known this could happen. If your doc sugar

coats

> > the answer, then get a second opinion.

> >

> >

> > Mark