Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Hi, y'all I'll be two years out January '01, with a total weight loss of 205, (like to get another 10-15 off) ANYHOO... I live in Iowa and last winter I really froze, it makes sense with less insulation. I thought maybe my body would have adapted by this winter....but it seems to be worse. Of course with all the menopausal women in my office who are hot flashing, my whining about being cold is not received well!! (I'm 47, also) So, my question is for some of you 4+ years out... does your body ever adapt to the cold? Or do I make major investment in wool sweaters and jackets, cuz this is a long term deal? a 385/180/170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 < > a, I've been freezing in the Oklahoma winter cold ever since I had surgery. I wear at least 2 pairs of socks (and sometimes layer them over a couple of pairs of panty hose or tights) all winter long. Of course, I work outside a lot, when I was a police officer, and still daily, with 20 horses to care for. But I find that once I get cold, I STAY cold. The best socks I've found for keeping feet warm are found at ski shops...up over the calf, and insulated. I just buy bigger boots for winter, to get all those layers inside. And the best way to stay warm is layering, but not tight. You need the insulating effect of air trapped between the layers. If your shoes or boots are too tight with a couple of pairs of socks inside, you're still going to be cold. Jac mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 a, It hasn't gotten any better for me. I'm sitting my butt here freezing right now with the heat on...Denmark today, high 2C. Even in Florida I was telling myself...I've got to go further SOUTH. Dang, I musta taken a wrong toin in Albuquerque...lol. Dawn Freezing my butt off > Hi, y'all > I'll be two years out January '01, with a total weight loss of 205, > (like to get another 10-15 off) ANYHOO... > > I live in Iowa and last winter I really froze, it makes sense with > less insulation. I thought maybe my body would have adapted by this > winter....but it seems to be worse. > > Of course with all the menopausal women in my office who are hot > flashing, my whining about being cold is not received well!! (I'm 47, > also) > > So, my question is for some of you 4+ years out... does your body > ever adapt to the cold? Or do I make major investment in wool > sweaters and jackets, cuz this is a long term deal? > > a > 385/180/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 My WHOLE body is better than it was the first few years, but I have Raynaud's, so nothing helps the fingers & toes. I can get warm, with a few layers, but not those fingers & toes. Only warm water or a heating pad can get blood back in once it's gone. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Freezing my butt off > Hi, y'all > I'll be two years out January '01, with a total weight loss of 205, > (like to get another 10-15 off) ANYHOO... > > I live in Iowa and last winter I really froze, it makes sense with > less insulation. I thought maybe my body would have adapted by this > winter....but it seems to be worse. > > Of course with all the menopausal women in my office who are hot > flashing, my whining about being cold is not received well!! (I'm 47, > also) > > So, my question is for some of you 4+ years out... does your body > ever adapt to the cold? Or do I make major investment in wool > sweaters and jackets, cuz this is a long term deal? > > a > 385/180/170 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 < > Guess what! Last year my PCP diagnosed me with Reynaud's. And it's a syndrome, not a disease, and nobody knows any specific reason any specific patient gets it or has it. You and I know it's probably because of WLS, and my PCP does too. But in reality, Reynaud's means, " Your feet and hands are cold all the time, and we don't know why, so we'll call it something. " He even went so far as to send me to a cardiologist, and he did an ultrasound on my legs and arms. My circulation and my heart are just fine. I'm just cold. Jac mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I don't know the details of how you feel cold, but with me I feel cold to the inside of my bones. The toes, nose, fingers all extremities feel like they're going to freeze and break off. (thank God I don't have a penis!) Even a ton of blankets doesn't help at night. It's painful and horrible to be cold. What DOES help is going to the gym in the morning and doing a good workout. Now I know it sounds yucky, but it's the only thing that gets me glowing. I've come to think of it as if my furnace is shutting down because I'm losing weight. It wants to preserve itself, so it goes on pilot light to conserve energy. I have to forcibly stoke the fire and rev up the metabolism to get it burning again. I feel normally warm for most of the rest of the day. Not scientific by any means, but it works for me. And just for the pure indulgence of it, I bought a stool to take and leave in the gym shower. I turn the shower on as hot as I can stand it and sit on the stool with the hot water gently pounding my shoulders and back. I just sit there for about ten minutes and get warm and relaxed. Huuh...heaven. And I earned it after that workout. Vicki A. > < Raynaud's, so nothing helps the fingers & toes.>> > > Guess what! Last year my PCP diagnosed me with Reynaud's. And it's a > syndrome, not a disease, and nobody knows any specific reason any specific > patient gets it or has it. You and I know it's probably because of WLS, and > my PCP does too. But in reality, Reynaud's means, " Your feet and hands are > cold all the time, and we don't know why, so we'll call it something. " He > even went so far as to send me to a cardiologist, and he did an ultrasound > on my legs and arms. My circulation and my heart are just fine. I'm just > cold. > > Jac > mailto:jholdaway@c... > http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ > http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Well, Vickie, I have to say I'm too " lazy " to go to a gym. LOL. After I spend the day taking care of 20 horses, lugging around 50 lb. Bags of feed and 75 lb bales of hay (I go through 1/2 ton of feed and a ton of hay a week), I'm too pooped to go workout, and I have a pretty healthy glow going on when I get done. So really the only problem I ever REALLY notice is my hands and feet, and after 20 years, I'm used to it. I think my doctor just did the tests to ease his own mind. Incidentally, my mother, who had WLS in May 1983 has the same problem too. Maybe this should be listed as a side-effect of the surgery. I've never actually heard it mentioned or associated before. Jac mailto:jholdaway@... before and after pictures at: http://hometown.aol.com/jrandjrholdaway http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 They refer to mine as syndrome also. When you start losing fingers & toes (the circulation doesn't return), then they call it the disease. Kinda late then. BUT I had symptoms of this 10 yrs before surgery. It's just much worse now & I didn't find out what was up with it til I had chill blains. I think only the NE people will know what they are. NO ONE here knew what they were, inc my docs, EXCEPT my podiatrist, who's a little on another station anyway, if you catch my drift. But he knew what they were. Anyway, same problem. The circulation shuts off, and that's it. My fingers go absolutely waxy yellow/white. NO BLOOD AT ALL. It is the spookiest thing. Right middle finger can go just by holding onto a glass of iced protein too long. I usually use a mug with a handle for that reason. The fastest way to get it back is to wash a few dishes, then it turns pink. In public, I just go into the restroom and run warm water on it til the color comes back. As time goes on, it gets worse. I have 5 fingers (and they go in a certain order) AND 5 toes (also a certain order) that will lose the blood & not come back without my taking steps. They don't just " warm up " . The chill blains represent 3 months of pain & peeling skin. SO, I am now a lot quicker to get my feet out of the cold than I usta be. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Freezing my butt off > < Raynaud's, so nothing helps the fingers & toes.>> > > Guess what! Last year my PCP diagnosed me with Reynaud's. And it's a > syndrome, not a disease, and nobody knows any specific reason any specific > patient gets it or has it. You and I know it's probably because of WLS, and > my PCP does too. But in reality, Reynaud's means, " Your feet and hands are > cold all the time, and we don't know why, so we'll call it something. " He > even went so far as to send me to a cardiologist, and he did an ultrasound > on my legs and arms. My circulation and my heart are just fine. I'm just > cold. > > Jac > mailto:jholdaway@... > http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ > http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Good Lord Jac! The gym seems like a country club compared to your workout! I had to carry 50 lb. bags of sugar for my kid's food drive yesterday and my shoulder still hurts! Smiles, Vicki A. > Well, Vickie, I have to say I'm too " lazy " to go to a gym. LOL. After I > spend the day taking care of 20 horses, lugging around 50 lb. Bags of feed > and 75 lb bales of hay (I go through 1/2 ton of feed and a ton of hay a > week), I'm too pooped to go workout, and I have a pretty healthy glow going > on when I get done. So really the only problem I ever REALLY notice is my > hands and feet, and after 20 years, I'm used to it. I think my doctor just > did the tests to ease his own mind. Incidentally, my mother, who had WLS in > May 1983 has the same problem too. Maybe this should be listed as a > side-effect of the surgery. I've never actually heard it mentioned or > associated before. > > Jac > mailto:jholdaway@c... > before and after pictures at: > http://hometown.aol.com/jrandjrholdaway > http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ > http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 And you still detest the heat? Strange little thing, ain'tcha? Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > They refer to mine as syndrome also. When you start losing fingers & toes > (the circulation doesn't return), then they call it the disease. Kinda late > then. > > BUT I had symptoms of this 10 yrs before surgery. It's just much worse now & > I didn't find out what was up with it til I had chill blains. I think only > the NE people will know what they are. NO ONE here knew what they were, inc > my docs, EXCEPT my podiatrist, who's a little on another station anyway, if > you catch my drift. But he knew what they were. > > Anyway, same problem. The circulation shuts off, and that's it. My fingers > go absolutely waxy yellow/white. NO BLOOD AT ALL. It is the spookiest > thing. Right middle finger can go just by holding onto a glass of iced > protein too long. I usually use a mug with a handle for that reason. The > fastest way to get it back is to wash a few dishes, then it turns pink. In > public, I just go into the restroom and run warm water on it til the color > comes back. > > As time goes on, it gets worse. I have 5 fingers (and they go in a certain > order) AND 5 toes (also a certain order) that will lose the blood & not come > back without my taking steps. They don't just " warm up " . The chill blains > represent 3 months of pain & peeling skin. SO, I am now a lot quicker to > get my feet out of the cold than I usta be. > > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I know. Believe me, I drive myself crazy, too. LOL! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Freezing my butt off > And you still detest the heat? Strange little thing, ain'tcha? > Alice > The Loon > RNY 12/28/00 > > > > They refer to mine as syndrome also. When you start losing fingers > & toes > > (the circulation doesn't return), then they call it the disease. > Kinda late > > then. > > > > BUT I had symptoms of this 10 yrs before surgery. It's just much > worse now & > > I didn't find out what was up with it til I had chill blains. I > think only > > the NE people will know what they are. NO ONE here knew what they > were, inc > > my docs, EXCEPT my podiatrist, who's a little on another station > anyway, if > > you catch my drift. But he knew what they were. > > > > Anyway, same problem. The circulation shuts off, and that's it. My > fingers > > go absolutely waxy yellow/white. NO BLOOD AT ALL. It is the > spookiest > > thing. Right middle finger can go just by holding onto a glass of > iced > > protein too long. I usually use a mug with a handle for that > reason. The > > fastest way to get it back is to wash a few dishes, then it turns > pink. In > > public, I just go into the restroom and run warm water on it til > the color > > comes back. > > > > As time goes on, it gets worse. I have 5 fingers (and they go in a > certain > > order) AND 5 toes (also a certain order) that will lose the blood & > not come > > back without my taking steps. They don't just " warm up " . The chill > blains > > represent 3 months of pain & peeling skin. SO, I am now a lot > quicker to > > get my feet out of the cold than I usta be. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Yeah, I am freezing my BUTT off too. So, we bought a hot tub. LOL Now we have serious discusions about how HOT to keep the hot tub. I want it all the way up to the max which is 102. wants it around 99 which is way too cold for me. Naturally we actually bought the hot tub so I could do hydro-therapy for my knees. I even have a prescription for it!! Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... www.paws2print.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 MMMMMmmmmmm, hot tub! I am with you, though, hotter is better, although I can't stay in it as long. I think the whirlpool at the gym is set to 106, so 102 does not seem outrageous to me. Reminds me of Joanne's home waterbirth though... they filled the rented birth tub with water from the washing machine connection until they ran the hot water heater out, and then they started heating water on the stove. My sister and the doula worked like galley slaves to get it full enough for me to get into it. Being 289 pounds and hot-natured at the time, the first thing I said when I got in was " TOO HOT! " LOL I could have gotten in it 10 or more minutes sooner if we'd agreed on a cooler temperature beforehand. My skinny and much colder-natured husband had to get out of it, he was too cold. But I guess I was working harder than he was, too. ;-) Z Open RNY 09/17/01 310/128/125 ________________________________ From: Debbie McNeice-Schuyler Sent: Sat 12/14/2002 7:22 PM To: Graduate-OSSG Subject: RE: Re: Freezing my butt off Yeah, I am freezing my BUTT off too. So, we bought a hot tub. LOL Now we have serious discusions about how HOT to keep the hot tub. I want it all the way up to the max which is 102. wants it around 99 which is way too cold for me. Naturally we actually bought the hot tub so I could do hydro-therapy for my knees. I even have a prescription for it!! Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... www.paws2print.com Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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