Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 In a message dated 12/12/02 2:36:27 PM Central Standard Time, gt2pdt@... writes: << If my clothes don't fit, I know I've gained weight. >> Using the clothes as indicator never helped me in the past - there was always some reason (occasion) where I had to buy something new that DID fit, and the wardrobe expanded to fit the increase in size. I never stopped buying new clothes as I was becoming more and more obese. What I did stop doing was WEIGHING myself. I couldn't stand to see that number - because, just as you said, it had POWER. If I never saw the number, I never had to admit that my weight was seriously out of control. It wasn't my clothing size that led me to finally doing something for myself and my health; it was when I went to the doctor's office and the scale registered more than 300 pounds. That number was my wake up call. For me, weighing now is essential. It is just as important a part of my morning routine as is brushing my teeth. I wouldn't go out of the house without brushing, or without weighing. It is a promise I have made to myself in order to keep in touch and in check. It is the only type of external validation that helps me. I'm not obsessed with my scale, in that I don't weigh multiple times per day - it gets a quick jump on and off once each morning, after potty, before shower & dressing. But for me, the scale is the independent witness in my journey - I'd be afraid to travel this journey without it. It's what works for me. Beth Houston, TX VBG - Dr. Srungaram 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. 5'10 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I don't weigh between office visits...the reason--at home I weigh in the buff, the scales are always nice to me. When I weigh at the offices or in the clinics I have on clothes and each scale says something different. So, mostly I go by how my clothes fit and feel. Also by how I feel. Neci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 For real! I would drive myself nuts if I didn't weigh myself every morning. I gotta SEE the numbers. Rose Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I think my own body image is so screwed up, and I still have clothes that fit with size tags anywhere from 12/14 to 22 that I MUST have some objective measurement of progress or trends. I am not at goal. I have one in mind, but it is not chiseled in stone, when I get to the right place I hope I will recognize it. In the meantime I need to be able to see the numbers on the scale move downward. I'm an accountant, numbers mean a lot to me. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I'm certain this will create quite a stir but, here goes. The numbers on a scales have enormous power. Why do we allow that? I do not weigh myself. It was very difficult at first. Weighing myself had become an adiction. I relied on those numbers to tell me if I was good or bad, successful or a failure. Now, I have to rely only on myself. The quality of my life is so much better now. If my clothes don't fit, I know I've gained weight. But the numbers now have no power over me. It a wonderful sense of freedom. I stopped weighing myself in 1988. I continued this practice - including refusing being weighed by any doctor (none ever objected), until my WLS. Then for one year I allowed the doctor to weigh me. Again, the numbers quickly gained power. The last time I weighed was one year ago at my one year appointment with my surgeon. I treasure the quality of life with a scaleless existence, and will continue by practice of no scales. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I feel the same way. Although I do weigh at the doctors office, it is the only time I weigh. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 302 lbs. Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:31:45 -0800 (PST) Gayle Spitzley gt2pdt@...> writes: > I'm certain this will create quite a stir but, here > goes. The numbers on a scales have enormous power. > Why do we allow that? > > I do not weigh myself. It was very difficult at > first. Weighing myself had become an adiction. I > relied on those numbers to tell me if I was good or > bad, successful or a failure. Now, I have to rely > only on myself. > > The quality of my life is so much better now. If my > clothes don't fit, I know I've gained weight. But the > numbers now have no power over me. It a wonderful > sense of freedom. > > I stopped weighing myself in 1988. I continued this > practice - including refusing being weighed by any > doctor (none ever objected), until my WLS. Then for > one year I allowed the doctor to weigh me. Again, the > numbers quickly gained power. The last time I weighed > was one year ago at my one year appointment with my > surgeon. > > I treasure the quality of life with a scaleless > existence, and will continue by practice of no scales. > > Any thoughts? > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 > I treasure the quality of life with a scaleless > existence, and will continue by practice of no scales. > > Any thoughts? Gee, only that you are now my NEW heroine!!!! I can't tell you how bad I long for this!! I do wonder " why " I can't not weigh........I guess it is out of shear fear of unaccountability......isn't that pathetic?? I need that stupid metal monster to tell me I'm " good " ...........ok, time for some serious evaluating here.......... P. Why Weigh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 <jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I understand this completely. As Dr Fox' big party approaches this week, I KNOW I am huge. I am utterly certain my dress will not fit. Not trying it on, not going near the scale. Terrified. I put my hand on my tummy (always my trouble spot) and it surprises me that it is now where I t hink it is. It's flatter than my mind says it is. I AM still wearing my " fruit pounds " , which is pretty scary. But my clothes still fit. Yes, the " larger " of my clothes, but that's the majority. Just means the itty bitty ones don't. How can such logic and this abject terror exist in the same brain? AT the same time? I make me crazy sometimes. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Why Weigh > < out of shear fear of unaccountability......isn't that pathetic?? I need > that stupid metal monster to tell me I'm " good " ...........ok, time for some > serious evaluating here.......... P. > > I don't know about anyone else, but I weigh occasionally, because even now I > still have problems with " self-image " and somehow think I'm heavier than I > really am. I can't go shopping for clothes without trying them on, even as > badly as I hate store dressing rooms, else I'll come home with something 2 > or 3 sizes too big. I KNOW I wear a 9, but I feel a compulsion to buy a 12 > or 14. I don't buy medium or even large size items, I buy EXTRA large. The > scales reinforces showing me that the face and body I see in the mirror are > really mine, and it's not playing some trick on my brain. > Jac > mailto:jholdaway@... > http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ > http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 You asked why? I'm thinking we've lived with ?? years (44 in my case) of non-permanent wt loss. It's unimaginable for it NOT to be a problem. For me. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Why Weigh > I'm certain this will create quite a stir but, here > goes. The numbers on a scales have enormous power. > Why do we allow that? > > I do not weigh myself. It was very difficult at > first. Weighing myself had become an adiction. I > relied on those numbers to tell me if I was good or > bad, successful or a failure. Now, I have to rely > only on myself. > > The quality of my life is so much better now. If my > clothes don't fit, I know I've gained weight. But the > numbers now have no power over me. It a wonderful > sense of freedom. > > I stopped weighing myself in 1988. I continued this > practice - including refusing being weighed by any > doctor (none ever objected), until my WLS. Then for > one year I allowed the doctor to weigh me. Again, the > numbers quickly gained power. The last time I weighed > was one year ago at my one year appointment with my > surgeon. > > I treasure the quality of life with a scaleless > existence, and will continue by practice of no scales. > > Any thoughts? > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 In a message dated 12/12/2002 11:11:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, rosekitten123@... writes: > For real! I would drive myself nuts if I didn't weigh myself every morning. > I > gotta SEE the numbers. > ***************************** I love my scale, too. It keeps me honest, and keeps me within my boundaries. If I get stupid, it tells me to back off for a few days. It doesn't rule me, just keeps me aware. in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I totally understand what you are saying and have been there, done that have the 3x t-shirt to prove it! But for me . . . MAKE THAT MEEEE! I started dieting because I was 125 when I " thought " I should have been 115. And it started me dieting. And that I did! I went from 125 to 118 and told I was stilL fat after I had starved and restricted my body! So I went from 118 to 140 without weighing until I went on the next program . . . and so on and so forth until I found myself at 268. Then I was desparate enough to have gastric bypass . . . and my weight loss was slow and to me almost insignifigant. What I didn't know was that I was a grazer (little bit of food constantly Vs. a 3 squares big meal eater) and I could eat past an intact bypass surgery! So I had to learn to eat for physical hunger or be doomed to obesity if not morbid obesity. I decided that everything I learned about weight and weight control was what made me fatter through the years. I was proof! And then I went on to discover (learn) why slim people never had a weight problem and they were the slim people they are. I found out, we thought differently about food and ate different amounts for different reasons. Part of this process was NOT getting on the scale, so I was reconnecting with my body and the signals it gave me for hunger and satisfaction. Not getting on the scale was about trusting my body to hear real signals to eat or stop eating, and to trust the process of changing from a person that tried to tell my body what to do, in order to become a person that did what it told me to do. Developing that trust was tought as I thought my body and genetics betrayed me and that is why I was morbidly obese! That said I am a Christian or diest who believes in God and that I am not a biological mistake or just an a random anestor of the apes. I believe that God made perfect as is. I trusted that my anestors survived the famines and starvation of their generation (Irish patote famine to name one) BECAUSE their God given biology worked and adapted to help them survive. Having that belief led me to trust my body and eat by the signals it gave me. I did and I lost 100% of my excess weight and am maintaining it effortlessly without " the scale " . If anything a scale sends me on a tale spin and crashing into non-hunger eating . . . Yep! I thank " The Seven Secrets of Slim People " for changing my future. I love being a size 6, but no matter what size I am, all I can do I respect and listen to what my body needs and wants! If it made me an 11 or a 18, that would be OK too! Because now I am me, the way my genetics and biology made me. No food issues or rebounding from diets. )Vicki (in CA) > In a message dated 12/12/02 2:36:27 PM Central Standard Time, > gt2pdt@s... writes: > > << If my clothes don't fit, I know I've gained weight. >> > > > Using the clothes as indicator never helped me in the past - there was > always some reason (occasion) where I had to buy something new that DID fit, > and the wardrobe expanded to fit the increase in size. I never stopped > buying new clothes as I was becoming more and more obese. What I did stop > doing was WEIGHING myself. I couldn't stand to see that number - because, > just as you said, it had POWER. If I never saw the number, I never had to > admit that my weight was seriously out of control. It wasn't my clothing > size that led me to finally doing something for myself and my health; it was > when I went to the doctor's office and the scale registered more than 300 > pounds. That number was my wake up call. > For me, weighing now is essential. It is just as important a part of my > morning routine as is brushing my teeth. I wouldn't go out of the house > without brushing, or without weighing. It is a promise I have made to myself > in order to keep in touch and in check. It is the only type of external > validation that helps me. I'm not obsessed with my scale, in that I don't > weigh multiple times per day - it gets a quick jump on and off once each > morning, after potty, before shower & dressing. But for me, the scale is the > independent witness in my journey - I'd be afraid to travel this journey > without it. It's what works for me. > > Beth > Houston, TX > VBG - Dr. Srungaram > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. > 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty > 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. > 5'10 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Oh, ! This so true!!! I usually will weigh at the hematologist's office when I get my IV vitamins. I feel like I have been off track lately with getting in all of my protein, getting in three or four, but really not remembering if I did 3 or 4 or 5 during the day. Just feeling like I " need " to do the shake at night cuz I cannot remember. When I first got sick I was on a routine schedule and now my life has been turned upside down with business at work and I feel so out of control, forgetting to eat again and realizing that I really have hardly had protein or food all day long. Then dinner.... hubby says " eat " I say " I'm FULL " , and then go for a shake to top it off at bedtime. I am getting the vites through IV once a week, and so I know I am keeping up with that at least. I feel so fat, but started feeling like POSSIBLY I had lost a little bit - but why? So, I got the nerve up and weighed at work on the scale there. It said 152 lbs, however, the little weight thing at the top when set at zero was off balance showing " light " . So, does that mean MORE or LESS when it said 152? However, I have two pairs of black classic fit Liz Claiborne Jeans that are size four. They are very straight leg and narrow - I have " bird legs " . I wore them postop at goal at 145 to 148 lbs and after tummy tuck. If I was at 145 they were lose. Over 150 they got tight. This summer when I was in malnutrition and since last January, I couldn't get them over my butt. Now, however, yesterday morning I was " thinking " I was feeling a bit " thinner " and so I braved it in the morning since it was " casual Friday " at work. And then went on EASILY and buttoned VERY EASILY! I was sooooo PLEASED! So, does this mean that my body is nourished enough now that I CAN actually lose the bounceback that I had when I got malnourished and gained a few pounds? I guess I just don't understand it all. I fear the scale, don't OWN ONE, and will NOT buy one, as my hubby and I said we don't want one, LOL. I weigh less than my daughters, and they are shorter than me, but I look at them and think I AM HUGE. I feared getting dressed up in my slinky dress to go to a party too - cuz the dress I have had for almost 6 years and of course, NO FRICKEN WAY was it going to fit me, but it DID. I complain to hubby and he says " you women are all the same! " " just look at those BIRD LEGS IN THOSE JEANS " And of course, DONT YOU DARE LOSE ANY MORE WEIGHT. Of course, I don't see that. Anyway, hugs to you. How was Dr. Fox's party? Now that I'm in Cali, I miss it! B Distal RNY 12/27/95 275/152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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