chat

July 13, 2001

In a message dated 7/13/01 7:02:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

goodcook@... writes:

<< We've tried several times now with no luck as far as chat goes....either

we can't be heard or we can't hear the others. As Doris can't type it makes

it pretty hard to stay in touch through chat. Too bad.

>>

Mike, write to yahoo and let them know.... They are getting tired of hearing

from me. Please, if everyone would tell them their complaints, we might get

this straightened out. I'm still not getting all the mail.

Mike, tell Doris Hi for me and hope to talk to you two soon.

Hope you have a great weekend and Doris is feeling well.

hugs

July 14, 2001

Mike

Sorry you guys had such a bad time with Chat! The rest of us couldn't talk either or when we did it was all broken up. We just typed. Sorry that Doris couldn't keep up with us. There has got to be away that we should be able to chat! I am going to post to Yahoo yet another time.

Take care!

Glenda

chat

Very few people seem to be using chat. Also the sound seems not to work very often.

We've tried several times now with no luck as far as chat goes....either we can't be heard or we can't hear the others. As Doris can't type it makes it pretty hard to stay in touch through chat. Too bad.

DISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

July 25, 2001

In a message dated 7/25/01 6:26:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

sherry_24230_2000@... writes:

<< I was just wondering if anyone was going to be at chat today ? The

last couple of times I have been there no one is online .

Sherry

>>

Sherry.. I just talked to Dawn.... Sorry I missed chat... I was out watering

my plants and time got away from me... When I came back and signed on

everyone was gone. Just my luck. LOL Sorry I missed everyone... I really

need to do something with this brain of mine...LOL

Hope you are having a good day.. Had a nice chat with Shirley and Glenda

last nite on MSN.. We laughed sooo much and had a great time... Think I've

finally found another night owl (Shirley) Usually up by my self...LOL

Hope to catch you later.

hugs

July 25, 2001

, Yes Shirley is a night owl , and I'm an early bird early to bed early to rise .But that might be changing in a couple of weeks . Bobby will be working out of town for four days ,then home late on Thursday . When I don't have to get up at 5:00 i stay up late also . Maybe we can all get on there . I need to go to no mail tomarrow night . We are taking to Dollywood for the weekend . Let me know how to do it okay. Love Sherry

RCColloran@... wrote: << I was just wondering if anyone was going to be at chat today ? The last couple of times I have been there no one is online . Sherry >>Sherry.. I just talked to Dawn.... Sorry I missed chat... I was out watering my plants and time got away from me... When I came back and signed on everyone was gone. Just my luck. LOL Sorry I missed everyone... I really need to do something with this brain of mine...LOL Hope you are having a good day.. Had a nice chat with Shirley and Glenda last nite on MSN.. We laughed sooo much and had a great time... Think I've finally found another night owl (Shirley) Usually up by my self...LOL Hope to catch you later. hugsDISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

July 25, 2001

In a message dated 7/25/01 2:27:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sherry_24230_2000@... writes:

<< I need to go to no mail tomarrow night . We are taking to

Dollywood for the weekend . Let me know how to do it okay. Love Sherry >>

Well Sherry, when you are up late, just check and see if I'm here... Usually

am..

You can change yourself to no mail by going to

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rpolychondritis

I don't know what it says...LOL I think chang my status. They have recently

changed the screen.. if you can't do it... just let me know and I can do it

for you. Honest.... I won't mess that up. Just don't know what it says now..

Hope you have a wonderful time in Dolly Wood...Let us know all about it when

you get home. Hope you can keep up with . LOL

hugs

August 1, 2001

Hi ,

I was there. Early, but I waited a while and no one showed up so I

got off the computer. SO sorry. Wish we had connected at the same

time. Would love to chat with you. Have fun at the beach. Oh, how

I wish I were going. Love, Marilyn

well, I was late to chat again today...... No one was there, guess I

missed

> who ever showed up. LOL Just have to start my work earlier so I

can make it

> at 9:30 exactly...

>

> My MSN isn't working this morning... anyone else having this

problem?

>

> Hope you all have a good day..... I am trying to get washing and

packing

> done. We leave tomorrow afternoon for the beach... Just counting

the

> hours... Wish the work was done thought...Heidi, you must be a pro

at packing

> by now.... will you come and do it for me..??? LOL

>

> My feet are feeling better, only I think he gave me too much

numbing

> agent..LOL My left foot is still numb...in my toes... too bad that

isn't

> where the pain is. LOL

>

> Well, better get busy... Have lots to do...Will talk to you all

later.

> hugs

>

August 8, 2001

marilyn

i am doing good, so glad to hear from you, foot is much better, still swollen but just looks betteer. i am dreading this weeks metho because of the increase, but i guess i will make it. dawn

godave4@... wrote: Hi ALL,Loved the bumper sticker. Cute.I was at chat this AM but nobody was there, so I wentin search of some new Beanie Babies.Hope you all are doing good. Dawn, have been wondering how your foot is. Enjoy the messages from everyone.Chuck, you aren't the only man who is posting. I sawa message today from . Bye, MarilynDISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

August 8, 2001

Dawn,

Did you see an Ortho. about your foot?

Good luck with the Metho increase.

Sandy

marilyn i am doing good, so glad to hear from you, foot is much better, still swollen but just looks betteer. i am dreading this weeks metho because of the increase, but i guess i will make it. dawn godave4@... wrote: Hi ALL,Loved the bumper sticker. Cute.I was at chat this AM but nobody was there, so I wentin search of some new Beanie Babies.Hope you all are doing good. Dawn, have been wondering how your foot is. Enjoy the messages from everyone.Chuck, you aren't the only man who is posting. I sawa message today from . Bye, MarilynDISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

August 11, 2001

Marilyn, Lucy here, I am sorry that I did not make it but time caught up

with me and I was wanting to watch 48 Hours on tv and forgot completely

about Chat. Maybe I can remember next time. Love and Prayers, Lucy

Chat

> Hi All,

>

> There were three of us at chat last night. Dawn, I am sorry you

> couldn't get in. I missed talking to you. We saw your name come up

> and I kept asking about you, but you never got in. Hope you have a

> good weekend. Take care. marilyn

>

> DISCLAIMER!!

> WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS

RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR

BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR

PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND

TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

>

August 11, 2001

Hi Lucy,

Missed you last night. Chat was at 6 PM my time and there's

absolutely nothing on TV here at that time. I had wanted to watch 48

hours too, but fell asleep before it came on. Hope you are doing

OK. Love, Marilyn

> Marilyn, Lucy here, I am sorry that I did not make it but time

caught up

> with me and I was wanting to watch 48 Hours on tv and forgot

completely

> about Chat. Maybe I can remember next time. Love and Prayers, Lucy

> Chat

>

> > Hi All,

> >

> > There were three of us at chat last night. Dawn, I am sorry you

> > couldn't get in. I missed talking to you. We saw your name come up

> > and I kept asking about you, but you never got in. Hope you have

a

> > good weekend. Take care. marilyn

> >

> > DISCLAIMER!!

> > WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT

IS

> RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR

DOCTOR

> BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE

FOR YOUR

> PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT

AND

> TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

> >

August 11, 2001

> Hi All,

>

> There were three of us at chat last night. Dawn, I am sorry you

> couldn't get in. I missed talking to you. We saw your name come up

> and I kept asking about you, but you never got in. Hope you have a

> good weekend. Take care. marilyn

Marilyn,

I can never get into that chat room either, it keeps saying for

members only, i thaught i was a member but i guess i am not let in

for some reason.....maybe next time.......chuck

August 4, 2002

Vera, it is about 8pm EST.. are you available to chat

Robett

>From: FVJAMES@...

>Reply-To: shydrager

>To: shydrager

>Subject: Chat

>Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:23:42 EDT

>

>I'm not alone anymore, Bill is here. Come help me.)

>Vera

>

>Hello:

>I'm still here in the chat all alone. is gone , so it's just me ,

>myself & I. They say it's a small world, but I feel lost all by myself in

>here. Where oh where is everybody? )

>

>Hugs Vera

>

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December 13, 2002

Hello everyone I introduced myself to everyone yesterday. Thank you

for the warm welcome..I am curious about the chat room... Are there

any regular scheduled times for chats ? Been in the chat room but

never see anyone in there.

I have been reading lots of posts which is very helpful. My starting

weight was 313.5 and is currently 220.. I have been on a platue for

the past 6 months.. I was getting real tired of the disapointment I

went through each day when i weighed my self.. So, I gave my scale to

my mother. I was obsessed with it.. I weighed myself all the time.

Go to the bathroom.. weigh.. eat... weigh.. weigh just because.. I'm

so glad i got rid of that thing... I was at my moms home the other

day and decided that i would weigh.. been about a week... I was so

happy... I lost 8.5 pounds.. And now I'm off that platue.. I couldn't

believe that i lost weight after not losing for 6 months.. I thought

there was something wrong with the scale.. so i had my son weigh.. I

had truely lost the weight. Amazing. I have been working very hard to

get off the platue.. I weigh everything.. measure and count calories.

I walk at least 2 miles a day.. and ride the stationary bike at least

two miles three times a week..I take my pills every day and drink the

required amount of water and eat close to 100 grams of protein each

day.It took several weeks of this to finally lose weight..

I noticed there has been people talking about cold hands and feet.. I

have been experiencing that also.. I am usually the one who is hot

all the time.. Not anymore... I also noticed others complaining about

headaches.. I too get them now and never did before surgery.. I think

it is due to some of side effects of my mental pills.

Well, better go before you all fall asleep.. sorry it is so long...

Thanks for all the posts it helps to keep my head on straight..

Sharon S

Dr. Sawicki at UCLA

313.5 / 220 and still losing

December 13, 2002

In my opinion (which is an immediate clue that you can toss it if you

like) your exercise program is not efficient. You need to add some

strength training to build some muscle (not arnie size, just firm up

and strengthen). It revs up your metabolism PERMANENTLY so long as

you maintain the strength training. The walking and aerobic exercise

only ups the metabolsim for a couple of hours.

Plus your body will start to shrink big time in about 4 weeks. I was

floored when about 4-6 weeks after strength training, even though I

had only lost 6 pounds, I went down 2 sizes1 And that's after I had

been on a long 8-9 month plateau.

I do some circuit training and some free weight lifts, nothing real

ambitious, but enough to keep the fires burning.

Vicki A.

P.S. I'm sorry to say, if you look at the routines of people who stay

in normal shape (like on the board or in magazines), most seem to put

in an hour or more 6 times a week

> Hello everyone I introduced myself to everyone yesterday. Thank

you

> for the warm welcome..I am curious about the chat room... Are there

> any regular scheduled times for chats ? Been in the chat room but

> never see anyone in there.

>

> I have been reading lots of posts which is very helpful. My

starting

> weight was 313.5 and is currently 220.. I have been on a platue for

> the past 6 months.. I was getting real tired of the disapointment I

> went through each day when i weighed my self.. So, I gave my scale

to

> my mother. I was obsessed with it.. I weighed myself all the

time.

> Go to the bathroom.. weigh.. eat... weigh.. weigh just because..

I'm

> so glad i got rid of that thing... I was at my moms home the other

> day and decided that i would weigh.. been about a week... I was so

> happy... I lost 8.5 pounds.. And now I'm off that platue.. I

couldn't

> believe that i lost weight after not losing for 6 months.. I

thought

> there was something wrong with the scale.. so i had my son weigh..

I

> had truely lost the weight. Amazing. I have been working very hard

to

> get off the platue.. I weigh everything.. measure and count

calories.

> I walk at least 2 miles a day.. and ride the stationary bike at

least

> two miles three times a week..I take my pills every day and drink

the

> required amount of water and eat close to 100 grams of protein each

> day.It took several weeks of this to finally lose weight..

>

> I noticed there has been people talking about cold hands and feet..

I

> have been experiencing that also.. I am usually the one who is hot

> all the time.. Not anymore... I also noticed others complaining

about

> headaches.. I too get them now and never did before surgery.. I

think

> it is due to some of side effects of my mental pills.

>

> Well, better go before you all fall asleep.. sorry it is so long...

> Thanks for all the posts it helps to keep my head on straight..

>

> Sharon S

> Dr. Sawicki at UCLA

> 313.5 / 220 and still losing

December 13, 2002

So why is it not working for me? I began weight training on Sept.

20, go three times a week, have a personal trainer, have steadily

increased both amount of weight and reps. Now my measurements are

LARGER than before and my weight is up about 3 pounds. Measurements

are not drastically larger, between 1/4 and 1/2 inche everywhere. So

what gives? Do you have a clue because my trainer does not. I'm

really frustraterated- help! Anybody?

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

.....strength training to build some muscle (not arnie size, just firm

up and strengthen).... Plus your body will start to shrink big time

in about 4 weeks.

Vicki A.

December 14, 2002

Kudos to you on a fantastic commitment to redefining your body.

working with a strength trainer is way too hard for me to even fathom!

Are you already at your goal weight and pretty small? I started

about the same date you did and was a size 22. Now I am a size 18,

but I am nowhere near goal yet, so I had a lot of fat hanging around.

Also, I was advised NOT to increase the weight, but to increase the

reps. A small number of reps and increasing weight is for building

muscle mass (size). That's the goal of a lot of personal trainers.

I worked up to 20 lb weights on the tricep curl, 3 sets of 10 and was

advised by my Dr. to drop back down to 15 pounds and add reps instead

of weight. Now I am up to 3 sets of 25 and have applied this across

the board. I am building strength and endurance, but not mass.

Finally, if it's any consolation, a real loose rule of thumb is that

you have lost at least 2x in fat whatever your weight gain is. A

couple of years ago Prevention magazine did a 6 week trial study with

women on strength training. Some lost weight, some just a little,

and one may have gain a smidgeon. But when they measured fat loss,

the results were astounding. Don't quote me on it (you can look it

up at prvention if you are interested) but I seem to remember one

woman losing 3 pounds, but actually gaining 3 pounds of muscle and

losing 6 pounds of fat.

It's not about weight anyway. I don't care how much i weigh if my

body is functioning efficiently and i have a chance at a longer, more

active life.

Smiles,

Vicki A.

> ....strength training to build some muscle (not arnie size, just

firm

> up and strengthen).... Plus your body will start to shrink big

time

> in about 4 weeks.

> Vicki A.

December 15, 2002

Thank you. No, not at goal weight yet but don't know if I'll ever

get there. I would like to drop another 10 pounds but it's not the

end of the world if I don't. However, the end approaches if I gain.

I am by no means small (but much, much smaller than before

surgery!). I wear a size 9 pant and a med/lg. top. Never, ever

before in my life have I been able to shop in the junior department!

Whodda thunk!?!?

I find that paying for a trainer helps keep me honest- expensive but

whatever keeps me going. The other aid is a workout buddy- when she

is wanting to flake I shove her behind into the gym, when I'm wanting

to be lazy she chides me into going. We met in a gym, fell into

instant like, and have been working out together for three years.

We increase the weight when the lifts are no longer challenging. I

usually do two to three to sets of about 30 reps., just go until the

last two are very hard to do and then stretch and on to the next.

I am now trying to 20 min. of cardio with each session but time is a

factor and especially this time of year. By the time that I drive to

the gym, warm up, do the workout, and drive home I've put in two

hours and then home, shower, change and then............begin my day

I'm down three hours before I start!

Thanks to you and everyone for your encouragement. It is greatly

appreciated.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

Kudos to you on a fantastic commitment to redefining your body.

Working with a strength trainer is way too hard for me to even fathom!