Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Just got braces put on on Monday - self-ligating Damon braces with spacers in the back for bands. I've been popping ibuprofen nonstop since then but am still uncomfortable. I'm wondering when the pain will cool down enough to eat a sandwich - give it a few more days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 yeah, the first week with braces is pretty painful. and then whenever you go to get them tightened you will have some pain for a few days. the pain will miraculously disappear one day soon... and then you will get to where you forget that you have them. until it gets close to getting them off... i'm ready to be done with them. anyway, i digress. give it a few more days... it'll get better and better. > Just got braces put on on Monday - self-ligating Damon braces > with spacers in the back for bands. I've been popping ibuprofen > nonstop since then but am still uncomfortable. I'm wondering > when the pain will cool down enough to eat a sandwich - give it a > few more days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Thanks for the quick reply, it's good to know that this is probably the worst of it. I get them tightened only about every three months so I can deal with that, no problemo. Dreaming of sandwiches, > > Just got braces put on on Monday - self-ligating Damon braces > > with spacers in the back for bands. I've been popping ibuprofen > > nonstop since then but am still uncomfortable. I'm wondering > > when the pain will cool down enough to eat a sandwich - give it a > > few more days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 , I'd go so far as to say that, excepting the first night after surgery while in ICU, the first week in braces was the hardest, worst and most painful part of the whole process. Some might differ with me on this, but I vividly remember how miserable I was when I first got my braces. I feel for you!! Hang in there. > > > Just got braces put on on Monday - self-ligating Damon > braces > > > with spacers in the back for bands. I've been popping > ibuprofen > > > nonstop since then but am still uncomfortable. I'm > wondering > > > when the pain will cool down enough to eat a sandwich - give > it a > > > few more days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Yes, braces are tough to deal with, but they aren't the end all. I got mine on in November (right before Thanksgiving!) and I did have a hard time with them for awhile. It just takes some time and patience to get used to them. I love the wax that the ortho gave me...it really is a lifesaver. And for the time being where you can't eat anything solid, rely on milkshakes and soft things that you can eat. Best of luck...the worst is nearly over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Funny bumper sticker! You're gonna think I'm sadistic or making fun, but I'm not... Has anybody ever suggested " chewing through the pain " to you? Some orthos even give their patients " chew toys " -- rubber or silicon disks of a hard rubbery material, to chew on for a while after a particularly difficult adjustment. Mine did not, but his techs told me that the more I could make myself chew when I was hurting, the more quickly the pain would go away. Something about it stimulates the blood flow or some such. Ask your ortho whether this might help give you some relief. (And I do hope you've told him/her how much it is still hurting you -- with my guy, that would have meant something was wrong. He said " Teeth actually move better when we are kinder to them. " The knife and fork business don't worry me, because lots of us have had to do that. But that you're hurting so badly, does.) I won't tell you I ever really forgot about 'em, nor that I never had any pain -- but it was nothing like as bad as yours sounds. I'm sorry. (Not that I didn't have it, but that you do.) And if it will make you feel any better, my ortho was exactly on target for the time to completion. It can (and does) happen, just not always. Cammie > Ok, Braces are the devil. Spawn of satan. I had mine on about a month ago and tightened once since then. I will admit, the first week was the most painful, but I still can not eat regular food. (ate a sub with fork and knife). I am still in constant pain which doubles when I eat somthing. I was on the IBU profin routine, but thats not good for you. I went to my MD and she gave me celebrex and its 100 times more effective than IBU profen, and it doesnt have any of hte negative side effects of excessive ibu profen use (i.e. ulcers, liver). > > Everynoe told me that I would get used to the braces and even forget about them after a few weeks, they lied or were too dumb to know the difference. I am in them for almost two years, so I guess its no use getting depressed about them (even though I did for the first three weeks I had them installed and still make it a point not to smile). Oh well, somthing else to add to the lsit to look forward to if and when this is ever over with. (how many stories have I heard of people supposed to have them for 6 weeks which turns into three years). > > BTW. I have a bumber sticker that says " My Jag is in my mouth " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Just hang in there. The pain will subside eventually. I had a fair amount of pain at the beginning of my treatment, and remember all too well the knife and fork routine. The first wire I had hurt like a biotch, and the pain lasted for the whole month before changing wires. As you receive new wires, you're teeth will get used to moving around, and the pain will decrease, both in volume and length of time. Just a guess here, but I think that when you move your teeth for the first time after 20+ years of stability, it takes a little extra to break the bonds holding them in place. Once they start moving, it becomes much easier, and the pain only lasts a few days. My ortho mentioned something about fibers holding your teeth in place...ehh, I don't know. I hope you feel better sooner, rather than later. Don't be too discouraged, it should get better very soon. -AJ > > Ok, Braces are the devil. Spawn of satan. I had mine on about a > month ago and tightened once since then. I will admit, the first > week was the most painful, but I still can not eat regular food. (ate > a sub with fork and knife). I am still in constant pain which > doubles when I eat somthing. I was on the IBU profin routine, but > thats not good for you. I went to my MD and she gave me celebrex and > its 100 times more effective than IBU profen, and it doesnt have any > of hte negative side effects of excessive ibu profen use (i.e. > ulcers, liver). > > > > Everynoe told me that I would get used to the braces and even > forget about them after a few weeks, they lied or were too dumb to > know the difference. I am in them for almost two years, so I guess > its no use getting depressed about them (even though I did for the > first three weeks I had them installed and still make it a point not > to smile). Oh well, somthing else to add to the lsit to look forward > to if and when this is ever over with. (how many stories have I heard > of people supposed to have them for 6 weeks which turns into three > years). > > > > BTW. I have a bumber sticker that says " My Jag is in my mouth " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 I agree with Camie's " chewing through the pain " thing, as I had nothing else to try. Liquid, soft food, cold, heat, nothing worked. In fact, the first months (October 2002 to January 2003) were so bad, I could hardly get a full night of sleep over that whole period. It hurt when I close my mought at night, when I eat, and my teeth would bounce on each other when I would talk (thus hurting more). One day, I took the matters into my own hands. Ortho was short of suggestions (and he admitted I was probably his worst patient). I decided to eat a sandwich (white bread, but with lettuce and everything). I thought my heart would stop right after the first bite. Then, shortly after this first trial, my pain got more manageable. Until that moment, I decided to return to my normal diet. The pain went away in a few days. 4 months of " nightmares " just vanished over 2 or 3 days. Nowadays, when I get a new adjustment, I take it easy on the following meal, but for all the others, it's back to regular stuff. My theory is that the more careful you are with the pain, the less you're developping a " pysichal barreer " or tolerance against it. At the first chance it has, pain will return. I once read something about an asian technique that goes something like : Acknowledging the pain is there will make it disapear. Fighting it will, on the contrary, making it worst. Ray > Funny bumper sticker! > > You're gonna think I'm sadistic or making fun, but I'm not... > > Has anybody ever suggested " chewing through the pain " to you? Some > orthos even give their patients " chew toys " -- rubber or silicon > disks of a hard rubbery material, to chew on for a while after a > particularly difficult adjustment. Mine did not, but his techs told > me that the more I could make myself chew when I was hurting, the > more quickly the pain would go away. Something about it stimulates > the blood flow or some such. > > Ask your ortho whether this might help give you some relief. (And I > do hope you've told him/her how much it is still hurting you -- with > my guy, that would have meant something was wrong. He said " Teeth > actually move better when we are kinder to them. " The knife and fork > business don't worry me, because lots of us have had to do that. But > that you're hurting so badly, does.) > > I won't tell you I ever really forgot about 'em, nor that I never had > any pain -- but it was nothing like as bad as yours sounds. I'm > sorry. (Not that I didn't have it, but that you do.) > > And if it will make you feel any better, my ortho was exactly on > target for the time to completion. It can (and does) happen, just not > always. > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 I am very sorry to hear you're having trouble! Hearing your story made me remember when I had my braces put on (which I am sure is in no way similar to the pain you must be experiencing). I am still pre- op but I remember when I got my braces on and thought that that was the worst pain of my life. It never seemed to get any better and I constantly babied my mouth as a result. After about 2 weeks of pasta cut into tiny bits, my parents invited me out to Gibson's (the best steakhouse in Chicago). I figured I could find something soft on the menu, but when I got there I said " screw it " and ordered the steak. Sure, it hurt, but it was so worth it. I'm not sure if my mouth went numb after a while or something else, but it stopped. The next day it was sore again but I " chewed through it " . I really think that it is sound advice. > > Funny bumper sticker! > > > > You're gonna think I'm sadistic or making fun, but I'm not... > > > > Has anybody ever suggested " chewing through the pain " to you? Some > > orthos even give their patients " chew toys " -- rubber or silicon > > disks of a hard rubbery material, to chew on for a while after a > > particularly difficult adjustment. Mine did not, but his techs told > > me that the more I could make myself chew when I was hurting, the > > more quickly the pain would go away. Something about it stimulates > > the blood flow or some such. > > > > Ask your ortho whether this might help give you some relief. (And I > > do hope you've told him/her how much it is still hurting you -- with > > my guy, that would have meant something was wrong. He said " Teeth > > actually move better when we are kinder to them. " The knife and fork > > business don't worry me, because lots of us have had to do that. But > > that you're hurting so badly, does.) > > > > I won't tell you I ever really forgot about 'em, nor that I never had > > any pain -- but it was nothing like as bad as yours sounds. I'm > > sorry. (Not that I didn't have it, but that you do.) > > > > And if it will make you feel any better, my ortho was exactly on > > target for the time to completion. It can (and does) happen, just not > > always. > > > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 > > > BTW. I have a bumber sticker that says " My Jag is in my mouth " . OMG where did you get that bumper sticker? I want one that says " My BMW is in my mouth " !!! As for the pain.. I'm going thru the same thing as you in regards to braces. I got my top braces back at the end of November and just recently got the bottoms put on. The pain is always there to a certain extent - the only time it's bad enough to take something is right after they tighten them up Other than that, it's something I'm aware of ,,, but not something that seriously hinders me in any way I think it's like someone else said,, after having your teeth stationary for so long, then all of a sudden having all the pressure, pulling, tugging, moving, etc., you're going to notice it Plus on top of it, we're adults, we recover just a little bit slower then kids/teenagers/etc Another factor for me is that I one clench while sleeping, which again puts pressure on my teeth. And with the braces, they're all " connected " so-to-speak.. so when I'm clenching my back teeth, it's putting pressure on all the others too - hence my pain. Recently started meditating though in hopes to alleviate the clenching - anyone have any experience or ideas in this area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Ask Fiddly about the meditation route... Cammie > > > > BTW. I have a bumber sticker that says " My Jag is in my mouth " . > > OMG where did you get that bumper sticker? I want one that says " My > BMW is in my mouth " !!! > > As for the pain.. I'm going thru the same thing as you in regards > to braces. I got my top braces back at the end of November and just > recently got the bottoms put on. The pain is always there to a > certain extent - the only time it's bad enough to take something is > right after they tighten them up Other than that, it's something > I'm aware of ,,, but not something that seriously hinders me in any > way > > I think it's like someone else said,, after having your teeth > stationary for so long, then all of a sudden having all the pressure, > pulling, tugging, moving, etc., you're going to notice it Plus on > top of it, we're adults, we recover just a little bit slower then > kids/teenagers/etc > > Another factor for me is that I one clench while sleeping, which > again puts pressure on my teeth. And with the braces, they're > all " connected " so-to-speak.. so when I'm clenching my back teeth, > it's putting pressure on all the others too - hence my pain. > > Recently started meditating though in hopes to alleviate the > clenching - anyone have any experience or ideas in this area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Yess'm, I'm a serious student of meditation, but I gotta run, will post later. > > > > > BTW. I have a bumber sticker that says " My Jag is in my > mouth " . > > > > OMG where did you get that bumper sticker? I want one that > says " My > > BMW is in my mouth " !!! > > > > As for the pain.. I'm going thru the same thing as you in regards > > to braces. I got my top braces back at the end of November and just > > recently got the bottoms put on. The pain is always there to a > > certain extent - the only time it's bad enough to take something is > > right after they tighten them up Other than that, it's > something > > I'm aware of ,,, but not something that seriously hinders me in any > > way > > > > I think it's like someone else said,, after having your teeth > > stationary for so long, then all of a sudden having all the > pressure, > > pulling, tugging, moving, etc., you're going to notice it Plus > on > > top of it, we're adults, we recover just a little bit slower then > > kids/teenagers/etc > > > > Another factor for me is that I one clench while sleeping, which > > again puts pressure on my teeth. And with the braces, they're > > all " connected " so-to-speak.. so when I'm clenching my back teeth, > > it's putting pressure on all the others too - hence my pain. > > > > Recently started meditating though in hopes to alleviate the > > clenching - anyone have any experience or ideas in this area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 What's the Marine commercial I've seen??? Oh yeah... " Pain is weakness leaving the body " Dammit > > Funny bumper sticker! > > > > You're gonna think I'm sadistic or making fun, but I'm not... > > > > Has anybody ever suggested " chewing through the pain " to you? Some > > orthos even give their patients " chew toys " -- rubber or silicon > > disks of a hard rubbery material, to chew on for a while after a > > particularly difficult adjustment. Mine did not, but his techs told > > me that the more I could make myself chew when I was hurting, the > > more quickly the pain would go away. Something about it stimulates > > the blood flow or some such. > > > > Ask your ortho whether this might help give you some relief. (And I > > do hope you've told him/her how much it is still hurting you -- with > > my guy, that would have meant something was wrong. He said " Teeth > > actually move better when we are kinder to them. " The knife and fork > > business don't worry me, because lots of us have had to do that. But > > that you're hurting so badly, does.) > > > > I won't tell you I ever really forgot about 'em, nor that I never had > > any pain -- but it was nothing like as bad as yours sounds. I'm > > sorry. (Not that I didn't have it, but that you do.) > > > > And if it will make you feel any better, my ortho was exactly on > > target for the time to completion. It can (and does) happen, just not > > always. > > > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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