The amazing non-food diet...

[Guest guest]

Randy, I have to say that my response to your daily journal was similar to

others' -- " where's the beef??? " Or at least the real food substances? I

totally agree that you can't cut out the Adderall -- my son is off the

scale on adult ADD, and it's really a necessity for him to take something

to slow himself down and organize his thoughts. But I'm wondering -- is the

Diet Dr. Pepper an attempt on your part to self-medicate too? I don't know

how caffeine affects you, but I know that my son has cut it out of his diet

and is doing quite a lot better. When he was using it, though, he used to

say it worked to keep him from getting depressed. I know depression often

goes hand in hand with ADD, so am wondering whether this might be the case

for you, too.

As for eating good food without losing more weight, I am in your shoes too.

Strange place to be, but I'm attempting to feed my body as much as I can in

protein, fibre and good carb-rich foods as it can possibly take. One snack

I use when my calorie count for the day is too low is Vector cereal by

Kellogg's -- it's quite high in protein, and has about 200 cal. per

serving. I use it the way others might use popcorn or chips in the evening

-- a munchy (pre-measured amount in a bowl beside me) that I eat over the

period of an hour or so. My surgeon's nutritionist is of the old school,

the one that says " a bit of everything, and moderation in all things " , and

she stresses whole foods over processed ones, so I tend to go more for

meats, veggies, whole-grain breads and cereals, etc. I do have my protein

shake every morning without fail, and for a mid-morning snack I usually

have a piece of five-grain toast with peanut butter on it. There are ways

to do this, but you have to kind of think it out and make the best choices

for yourself.

One final tip (and then I'll shut up) -- I use www. nutrawatch. com

(without the spaces) to track my daily intake. Not only do I know my

calorie count, but I know when I'm low on protein, or too high on salt, or

whatever. And if you get the space-age souped-up version, you can track

your exercise, and find out how it affects your " net calories " over the

day. Not to mention tracking your own progress with weights, reps,

etc...and graphing your weight loss on a cool chart that makes an

attractive office decoration and is sure to break the ice at parties. It's

an all-round fun site, and I've even got my husband addicted to it now.

Take care, and best of luck to you!

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RNY 2001.09.19, 125 cm bypassed

Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital

BMI then: 44.5

BMI now: 22.1

Lost but never forgotten: 152.5 lbs.

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[Guest guest]

I have heard that caffeine is good for ADD and/or ADHD as is smoking for

the schizophrenic. There is a calming affect to it. My nephew has ADHD

and often uses caffeine before school or when studying to help him study.

Otherwise, he can't sit long enough to focus. Can't quote any studies

but if it works, who am I to argue.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 302 lbs.

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:43:43 -0500 Irving kdirving@...>

writes:

> Randy, I have to say that my response to your daily journal was

> similar to

> others' -- " where's the beef??? " Or at least the real food

> substances? I

> totally agree that you can't cut out the Adderall -- my son is off

> the

> scale on adult ADD, and it's really a necessity for him to take

> something

> to slow himself down and organize his thoughts. But I'm wondering --

> is the

> Diet Dr. Pepper an attempt on your part to self-medicate too? I

> don't know

> how caffeine affects you, but I know that my son has cut it out of

> his diet

> and is doing quite a lot better. When he was using it, though, he

> used to

> say it worked to keep him from getting depressed. I know depression

> often

> goes hand in hand with ADD, so am wondering whether this might be

> the case

> for you, too.

>

> As for eating good food without losing more weight, I am in your

> shoes too.

> Strange place to be, but I'm attempting to feed my body as much as I

> can in

> protein, fibre and good carb-rich foods as it can possibly take. One

> snack

> I use when my calorie count for the day is too low is Vector cereal

> by

> Kellogg's -- it's quite high in protein, and has about 200 cal. per

>

> serving. I use it the way others might use popcorn or chips in the

> evening

> -- a munchy (pre-measured amount in a bowl beside me) that I eat

> over the

> period of an hour or so. My surgeon's nutritionist is of the old

> school,

> the one that says " a bit of everything, and moderation in all

> things " , and

> she stresses whole foods over processed ones, so I tend to go more

> for

> meats, veggies, whole-grain breads and cereals, etc. I do have my

> protein

> shake every morning without fail, and for a mid-morning snack I

> usually

> have a piece of five-grain toast with peanut butter on it. There are

> ways

> to do this, but you have to kind of think it out and make the best

> choices

> for yourself.

>

> One final tip (and then I'll shut up) -- I use www. nutrawatch. com

>

> (without the spaces) to track my daily intake. Not only do I know my

>

> calorie count, but I know when I'm low on protein, or too high on

> salt, or

> whatever. And if you get the space-age souped-up version, you can

> track

> your exercise, and find out how it affects your " net calories " over

> the

> day. Not to mention tracking your own progress with weights, reps,

> etc...and graphing your weight loss on a cool chart that makes an

> attractive office decoration and is sure to break the ice at

> parties. It's

> an all-round fun site, and I've even got my husband addicted to it

> now.

>

> Take care, and best of luck to you!

>

>

>

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> RNY 2001.09.19, 125 cm bypassed

> Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital

> BMI then: 44.5

> BMI now: 22.1

> Lost but never forgotten: 152.5 lbs.

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>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks so much for the ideas.... I've never been depressed, just love the

diet dr. pepper... Prior to surgery I was drinking way too many of them..

About 36 a day..... For a year after surgery I didn't touch the stuff... Now

I'm enjoying them..... The Adderall is a miracle drug.....I use (or used to

use) a site called fitday.com and it was very good, I have to go check the

other one out........

Vickie,

Man, thanks so much for the comments.... It takes a lot to get me down...

Hell, a little over a year ago I wore a size 54 jeans, 4and 5 XL shirts, 396

lbs (429 two months before surgery) my B/P was so high I was having mini

strokes, I was misserable, wanted so much but couldn't do a lot. Today? Size

30/32 in jeans...(Abercrombie and Fitch, mind ya), Small and medium shirts

between 189-197 lbs, (idea for my height is 197-207). I run, I work out

with weights, I walk the dog's (a lot). I also lay on my ass and watch TV.

My B/P is normal, sometimes too low. I'm thin......I'M THIN.....LOL... Whoo

hooooo.

Well, thanks all... time to work out and get ready for work.

Randy

rlogle@...

www.geocities.com/rogle32/

AIM: rlogleeln

Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 204 lbs gone.

Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe.

Lord, Please help me to become the Person

my Dog's think I am.

The amazing non-food diet...

> Randy, I have to say that my response to your daily journal was similar to

> others' -- " where's the beef??? " Or at least the real food substances? I

> totally agree that you can't cut out the Adderall -- my son is off the

> scale on adult ADD, and it's really a necessity for him to take something

> to slow himself down and organize his thoughts. But I'm wondering -- is

the

> Diet Dr. Pepper an attempt on your part to self-medicate too? I don't know

> how caffeine affects you, but I know that my son has cut it out of his

diet

> and is doing quite a lot better. When he was using it, though, he used to

> say it worked to keep him from getting depressed. I know depression often

> goes hand in hand with ADD, so am wondering whether this might be the case

> for you, too.

>

> As for eating good food without losing more weight, I am in your shoes

too.

> Strange place to be, but I'm attempting to feed my body as much as I can

in

> protein, fibre and good carb-rich foods as it can possibly take. One snack

> I use when my calorie count for the day is too low is Vector cereal by

> Kellogg's -- it's quite high in protein, and has about 200 cal. per

> serving. I use it the way others might use popcorn or chips in the evening

> -- a munchy (pre-measured amount in a bowl beside me) that I eat over the

> period of an hour or so. My surgeon's nutritionist is of the old school,

> the one that says " a bit of everything, and moderation in all things " , and

> she stresses whole foods over processed ones, so I tend to go more for

> meats, veggies, whole-grain breads and cereals, etc. I do have my protein

> shake every morning without fail, and for a mid-morning snack I usually

> have a piece of five-grain toast with peanut butter on it. There are ways

> to do this, but you have to kind of think it out and make the best choices

> for yourself.

>

> One final tip (and then I'll shut up) -- I use www. nutrawatch. com

> (without the spaces) to track my daily intake. Not only do I know my

> calorie count, but I know when I'm low on protein, or too high on salt, or

> whatever. And if you get the space-age souped-up version, you can track

> your exercise, and find out how it affects your " net calories " over the

> day. Not to mention tracking your own progress with weights, reps,

> etc...and graphing your weight loss on a cool chart that makes an

> attractive office decoration and is sure to break the ice at parties. It's

> an all-round fun site, and I've even got my husband addicted to it now.

>

> Take care, and best of luck to you!

>

>

>

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> RNY 2001.09.19, 125 cm bypassed

> Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital

> BMI then: 44.5

> BMI now: 22.1

> Lost but never forgotten: 152.5 lbs.

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[Guest guest]

Randy wrote:

> Today? Size

>30/32 in jeans...(Abercrombie and Fitch, mind ya), Small and medium shirts

>between 189-197 lbs, (idea for my height is 197-207). I run, I work out

>with weights, I walk the dog's (a lot). I also lay on my ass and watch TV.

>My B/P is normal, sometimes too low.

Now, Randy dear, I think you forgot to include some important information

here. For instance, your actual street address. I'm sure there are many

women like myself, who (in the interests of truth and accuracy, of course)

would love to come over and check this out for ourselves. My goodness,

Abercrombie and Fitch, even! I mean, you're talking major Male Babe

material here!

Seriously, mega-congratulations on your loss. And I'm so glad you're

enjoying your new life. After all we've been through, we deserve the good

stuff once in a while, no?

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RNY 2001.09.19, 125 cm bypassed

Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital

BMI then: 44.5

BMI now: 22.1

Lost: 152.5 lbs. If seen, please do not send back; owner has no further

use for them.

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