Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 ROBERT. THANKS FOR THE POSTING... MEMORY FAILS ME, AND I HAD ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN TENACITY AND ME. ON A DAY SUCH AS TODAY, IT IS AN ODD COMFORT TO BE REMINDED THAT THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE ME. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED THAT I HAVE NOT REGRESSED TO SUCH A POINT AS YOUR WIFE (YET?) I DO WONDER... HOW WAS SHE DIAGNOSED? IF I RECALL, SHE HAS SEEN MULTIPLE NEUROS WHO DX HER WITH MSA. DID THIS OCCUR PRIOR TO HER RECENT REGRESSIVE EPISODE? I'VE HAD AN INTERESTING DAY, BUT WILL MAKE ANOTHER POSTING OF THAT. THANKS AGAIN FOR RESPONDING TO THIS. I REALLY FELT LIKE PERHAPS I WAS 'ODD MAN OUT' - DUE TO MY AGE. PAUL > Thanks Jerry, > > Only her grandfather had Pd. So actually, there is not some real link to her > MSA condistion. None of her family going back 3 generations had PD except > her grandfather. Thanks for your infomation though. > > " tenacity's man " > > > >From: Jerry Cash > >Reply-To: shydrager@y... > >To: " 'shydrager@y...' " > >Subject: RE: Life expectancy > >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:43:54 -0500 > > > >Hello , > > > >I read a bit about the hereditary ataxias back when we were looking for > >answers to my brother's symptoms (before he got his dx of MSA) and if I > >recall correctly some of the hereditary ataxias have an aspect called > > " anticipation " which essentially means that in succeeding generations the > >symptom begin earlier and are more severe than in the prior generation. Of > >course, if Deborah has MSA then this would not explain her early onset > >and/or rapid progression. > > > >Regards, > > > >Jerry Cash > > > > Life expectancy > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >My name is Thom. I live in Atlanta. My father, age 76, has been > > >diagnosed with Shy-Drager. Although the diagnosis was > > >reletively recent, he first began to exhibit symptons, most > > >noticably, postural hypotension and the associated blackouts > > >and dizzyness, about three years ago. He was diagnosed in > > >March when he had to be hospitalized due to a rapid > > >deterioration in his physical condition. In a matter of weeks he > > >went from being relitively normal to being bed-ridden. He is > > >extremly weak. He is unable to sit up unassisted, he can not > > >walk or stand at all. He has lost about 20% of his body weight. > > >He has had to be catheterized and his kidneys are functioning at > > >50%. When he is awake he often appears to be catotonic, > > >staring blankly into space. He is in a nursing home where he is > > >under a doctor's care, but they are having trouble keeping his > > >electrolytes balanced, he has recently started vomiting after his > > >meals and he has developed a MSRA infection in his urinary > > >tract. > > > > > >I have read some of the literature on the various web sites and > > >they all say that life expectancy is seven to ten years from > > >diagnosis. Here is my question; given the rapid onset and his > > >current condition, is seven to ten years a realistic prognosis? It' s > > >very difficult to imagine that this would continue for that length of > > >time. I would really appreciate any experiences you might be > > >willing to share or any insights you might have. > > > > > >Please feel free to respond to me directly at my e-amil address, > > >tgillott@a... Thank you all so much, > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Thom in Atlanta > > > > > > > > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may > > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to > > > > > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Hi Jerry, Deborah was Dx with pd in 99, and MSA in 2000, DBS in Dec 01 and removed in Jan 02. She just turned 40 in Jan. And no, you are not alone... > >Reply-To: shydrager >To: shydrager >Subject: Re: Life expectancy - ROBERT - DIAGNOSIS? >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:20:11 -0000 > >ROBERT. > >THANKS FOR THE POSTING... > >MEMORY FAILS ME, AND I HAD ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN >TENACITY AND ME. > >ON A DAY SUCH AS TODAY, IT IS AN ODD COMFORT TO BE REMINDED THAT >THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE ME. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED THAT I HAVE NOT >REGRESSED TO SUCH A POINT AS YOUR WIFE (YET?) > >I DO WONDER... HOW WAS SHE DIAGNOSED? IF I RECALL, SHE HAS SEEN >MULTIPLE NEUROS WHO DX HER WITH MSA. DID THIS OCCUR PRIOR TO HER >RECENT REGRESSIVE EPISODE? > >I'VE HAD AN INTERESTING DAY, BUT WILL MAKE ANOTHER POSTING OF THAT. > >THANKS AGAIN FOR RESPONDING TO THIS. I REALLY FELT LIKE PERHAPS I >WAS 'ODD MAN OUT' - DUE TO MY AGE. > > > >PAUL > > > > Thanks Jerry, > > > > Only her grandfather had Pd. So actually, there is not some real >link to her > > MSA condistion. None of her family going back 3 generations had PD >except > > her grandfather. Thanks for your infomation though. > > > > " tenacity's man " > > > > > > >From: Jerry Cash > > >Reply-To: shydrager@y... > > >To: " 'shydrager@y...' " > > >Subject: RE: Life expectancy > > >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:43:54 -0500 > > > > > >Hello , > > > > > >I read a bit about the hereditary ataxias back when we were >looking for > > >answers to my brother's symptoms (before he got his dx of MSA) and >if I > > >recall correctly some of the hereditary ataxias have an aspect >called > > > " anticipation " which essentially means that in succeeding >generations the > > >symptom begin earlier and are more severe than in the prior >generation. Of > > >course, if Deborah has MSA then this would not explain her early >onset > > >and/or rapid progression. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Jerry Cash > > > > > > Life expectancy > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >My name is Thom. I live in Atlanta. My father, age 76, has been > > > >diagnosed with Shy-Drager. Although the diagnosis was > > > >reletively recent, he first began to exhibit symptons, most > > > >noticably, postural hypotension and the associated blackouts > > > >and dizzyness, about three years ago. He was diagnosed in > > > >March when he had to be hospitalized due to a rapid > > > >deterioration in his physical condition. In a matter of weeks he > > > >went from being relitively normal to being bed-ridden. He is > > > >extremly weak. He is unable to sit up unassisted, he can not > > > >walk or stand at all. He has lost about 20% of his body weight. > > > >He has had to be catheterized and his kidneys are functioning at > > > >50%. When he is awake he often appears to be catotonic, > > > >staring blankly into space. He is in a nursing home where he is > > > >under a doctor's care, but they are having trouble keeping his > > > >electrolytes balanced, he has recently started vomiting after his > > > >meals and he has developed a MSRA infection in his urinary > > > >tract. > > > > > > > >I have read some of the literature on the various web sites and > > > >they all say that life expectancy is seven to ten years from > > > >diagnosis. Here is my question; given the rapid onset and his > > > >current condition, is seven to ten years a realistic prognosis? >It' s > > > >very difficult to imagine that this would continue for that >length of > > > >time. I would really appreciate any experiences you might be > > > >willing to share or any insights you might have. > > > > > > > >Please feel free to respond to me directly at my e-amil address, > > > >tgillott@a... Thank you all so much, > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Thom in Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may > > > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to > > > > > > > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Hello , Just a point of clarification, I think you are responding to a post from although you addressed it to Jerry. Regards, Jerry Life expectancy > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >My name is Thom. I live in Atlanta. My father, age 76, has been > > > >diagnosed with Shy-Drager. Although the diagnosis was > > > >reletively recent, he first began to exhibit symptons, most > > > >noticably, postural hypotension and the associated blackouts > > > >and dizzyness, about three years ago. He was diagnosed in > > > >March when he had to be hospitalized due to a rapid > > > >deterioration in his physical condition. In a matter of weeks he > > > >went from being relitively normal to being bed-ridden. He is > > > >extremly weak. He is unable to sit up unassisted, he can not > > > >walk or stand at all. He has lost about 20% of his body weight. > > > >He has had to be catheterized and his kidneys are functioning at > > > >50%. When he is awake he often appears to be catotonic, > > > >staring blankly into space. He is in a nursing home where he is > > > >under a doctor's care, but they are having trouble keeping his > > > >electrolytes balanced, he has recently started vomiting after his > > > >meals and he has developed a MSRA infection in his urinary > > > >tract. > > > > > > > >I have read some of the literature on the various web sites and > > > >they all say that life expectancy is seven to ten years from > > > >diagnosis. Here is my question; given the rapid onset and his > > > >current condition, is seven to ten years a realistic prognosis? >It' s > > > >very difficult to imagine that this would continue for that >length of > > > >time. I would really appreciate any experiences you might be > > > >willing to share or any insights you might have. > > > > > > > >Please feel free to respond to me directly at my e-amil address, > > > >tgillott@a... Thank you all so much, > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Thom in Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may > > > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to > > > > > > > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 You are so right, Boy, some time the old care giver makes a mistake..Sorry .. it was to be to you. Just got mixed up.. Take care Rober " tenacity's man " > >Reply-To: shydrager >To: " shydrager shydrager > >Subject: RE: Life expectancy - ROBERT - DIAGNOSIS? >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:52:18 -0500 > >Hello , > >Just a point of clarification, I think you are responding to a post from > although you addressed it to Jerry. > >Regards, > >Jerry > > Life expectancy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > > > >My name is Thom. I live in Atlanta. My father, age 76, has been > > > > >diagnosed with Shy-Drager. Although the diagnosis was > > > > >reletively recent, he first began to exhibit symptons, most > > > > >noticably, postural hypotension and the associated blackouts > > > > >and dizzyness, about three years ago. He was diagnosed in > > > > >March when he had to be hospitalized due to a rapid > > > > >deterioration in his physical condition. In a matter of weeks he > > > > >went from being relitively normal to being bed-ridden. He is > > > > >extremly weak. He is unable to sit up unassisted, he can not > > > > >walk or stand at all. He has lost about 20% of his body weight. > > > > >He has had to be catheterized and his kidneys are functioning at > > > > >50%. When he is awake he often appears to be catotonic, > > > > >staring blankly into space. He is in a nursing home where he is > > > > >under a doctor's care, but they are having trouble keeping his > > > > >electrolytes balanced, he has recently started vomiting after his > > > > >meals and he has developed a MSRA infection in his urinary > > > > >tract. > > > > > > > > > >I have read some of the literature on the various web sites and > > > > >they all say that life expectancy is seven to ten years from > > > > >diagnosis. Here is my question; given the rapid onset and his > > > > >current condition, is seven to ten years a realistic prognosis? > >It' s > > > > >very difficult to imagine that this would continue for that > >length of > > > > >time. I would really appreciate any experiences you might be > > > > >willing to share or any insights you might have. > > > > > > > > > >Please feel free to respond to me directly at my e-amil address, > > > > >tgillott@a... Thank you all so much, > > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > >Thom in Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may > > > > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to > > > > > > > > > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 NO BIGGIE ROBERT. I REALLY DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS YOUR RESPONSE TO ME. I WAS JUST PLEASED TO HEAR FROM YOU! :- ) THANKS AGAIN, PAUL > You are so right, Boy, some time the old care giver makes a mistake..Sorry > .. it was to be to you. Just got mixed up.. Take care > > Rober " tenacity's man " > > > >From: Jerry Cash > >Reply-To: shydrager@y... > >To: " 'shydrager@y...' " > >Subject: RE: Life expectancy - ROBERT - DIAGNOSIS? > >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:52:18 -0500 > > > >Hello , > > > >Just a point of clarification, I think you are responding to a post from > > although you addressed it to Jerry. > > > >Regards, > > > >Jerry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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