My surgery

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Apparently this did not post earlier. My apologies if it did, and you’ve

already read it.

We had what was called a Mason By-Pass. From what I have read, it is the

immediate predecessor of RNY. My stomach was reduced, with 4 rows of

surgical steel staples, to a 3 ounce capacity. None of my stomach was

actually removed. This was explained to me as being necessary for my stomach

to keep producing gastric acids, necessary for digestion. This is the only

part of my surgery that has caused me problems, because it produces too

much. THEN my surgeon took my small intestine and moved the connection to

the side of my stomach, from the bottom. He said that NONE of my intestinal

tract was removed, to PREVENT malabsorption.

I guess it worked! I have NEVER had to have a protein drink or any other

supplement. I SHOULD take a vitamin daily, but I have such an aversion to

pills that I usually " forget. " I get all the protein I need thru normal

dietary venues...meat (not a lot), cheese, yogurt and beans/peas/legumes. I

eat carbohydrates. To be blunt, I CRAVE carbohydrates. And, with all this

discussion of cutting carbs, I have to ask, at least from a maintenance

standpoint, " WHY??? " I mean, don't overload yourself on simple sugars.

That's sure failure. But, carbs are your energy source. Not protein. Complex

carbs are good for you! And they are usually tied to fiber. All of you with

poopy problems know that you have to increase your fiber...what do you think

Metamucil is? I eat vegetables. A lot of vegetables. Cooked, of course, I

don't tolerate a lot of raw. But, I don't have excremental problems either.

I go, every morning, within 30 minutes of getting up (it seems that the

first sip of coffee stimulates my system). I USED to go every 3 days. It

doesn't float, it doesn't stink, and I only flush one time. What I don't

eat?

Fatty or fried foods. My tummy will tell me in very short order that I

screwed up. I am going to be sick. Puking my guts up, taking my teeth out (I

have dentures), slam the bathroom door. Sick.

My tummy tells me lots of things. Fortunately, I learned to listen. I give

it the 15 minutes it needs to talk to my very small brain. And I listen when

it tells me that the hot fudge sundae that looks so good is not good for me.

It lets me have ONE BITE. If I go over that, it BITES ME.

I'll repeat, again, the hardest thing I had to learn was to be patient, and

give my brain and stomach time to communicate without my superior

interference.. THAT is the secret to my success.

Jac

Jac

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Mason bypass is definitely malabsorptive. Here's a link with historical

information about this procedure from the American Society for Bariatric

Surgeons. http://www.asbs.org/html/story/chapter4.html Do you get blood

work done on a regular basis? Does that blood work screen your vitamin

levels, like B-12? And have you had a DEXA Scan of your spine and hip?

Ziobro

Open RNY 09/17/01

Plastics 07/22/02

310/128/125

My surgery

Apparently this did not post earlier. My apologies if it did, and you've

already read it.

We had what was called a Mason By-Pass. From what I have read, it is the

immediate predecessor of RNY. My stomach was reduced, with 4 rows of

surgical steel staples, to a 3 ounce capacity. None of my stomach was

actually removed. This was explained to me as being necessary for my

stomach to keep producing gastric acids, necessary for digestion. This

is the only part of my surgery that has caused me problems, because it

produces too much. THEN my surgeon took my small intestine and moved the

connection to the side of my stomach, from the bottom. He said that NONE

of my intestinal tract was removed, to PREVENT malabsorption. I guess it

worked! I have NEVER had to have a protein drink or any other

supplement. I SHOULD take a vitamin daily, but I have such an aversion

to pills that I usually " forget. " I get all the protein I need thru

normal dietary venues...meat (not a lot), cheese, yogurt and

beans/peas/legumes.

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Well, , you got me here. Not one of those pictures looks anything like

the diagrams I was shown before my surgery. So, frankly, I don't know what I

had done. Or what my mother had done either. All I DO KNOW is that we are

both healthy, and have maintained our weight for over 20 years. My PCP does

blood work on me a couple of times a year. Last year, I was anemic, for

about 3 months. That has been the extent of my illness, and after 20 years,

he couldn't even attribute THAT to WLS, just my own poor nutritional habits.

<< My point is that I'm really glad that *your* experience has gone well,

but it's certainly not universal, and I DO have personal experience with

this issue.>>

Maybe it's not universal. I have personal experience as well, with two other

people who had the exact same surgery I did, performed by the same doctor.

I'd say YOUR experience is less likely to be universal than mine. My three

to your one is a little more experience. But it's only experience with

success.

Jac

mailto:jholdaway@...

http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

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I have been screaming this message for 3.5 years . . . maybe with

your 20 years " above and below the belt " successful experience,

people will start listening. From my short experience of learning to

listen to and follow my body, when we are still obese and have

readily available excess fat to burn for energy, we don't do well on

carbohydrates. They can make us physically feel bad after eating

them. That changes as our body changes. When I got down to

a " healthy BMI under 25 " if I concentrated on protein, which made me

feel so good in the previous months, I felt sluggish and in need of

energy! Then I started obeying my bodies request for carbohydrates,

some simple and some complex and my energy returned. I now needed

carbohydrates for quick readily available energy. The fact was, after

I lost all the weight my body was not genetically programmmed to

carry, I needed the easy carbohydrates to give me energy. Glad to

read about a long term experience that is close to my short term

experience!

) Vicki

> Apparently this did not post earlier. My apologies if it did, and

you've

> already read it.

>

> We had what was called a Mason By-Pass. From what I have read, it

is the

> immediate predecessor of RNY. My stomach was reduced, with 4 rows of

> surgical steel staples, to a 3 ounce capacity. None of my stomach

was

> actually removed. This was explained to me as being necessary for

my stomach

> to keep producing gastric acids, necessary for digestion. This is

the only

> part of my surgery that has caused me problems, because it produces

too

> much. THEN my surgeon took my small intestine and moved the

connection to

> the side of my stomach, from the bottom. He said that NONE of my

intestinal

> tract was removed, to PREVENT malabsorption.

> I guess it worked! I have NEVER had to have a protein drink or any

other

> supplement. I SHOULD take a vitamin daily, but I have such an

aversion to

> pills that I usually " forget. " I get all the protein I need thru

normal

> dietary venues...meat (not a lot), cheese, yogurt and

beans/peas/legumes. I

> eat carbohydrates. To be blunt, I CRAVE carbohydrates. And, with

all this

> discussion of cutting carbs, I have to ask, at least from a

maintenance

> standpoint, " WHY??? " I mean, don't overload yourself on simple

sugars.

> That's sure failure. But, carbs are your energy source. Not

protein. Complex

> carbs are good for you! And they are usually tied to fiber. All of

you with

> poopy problems know that you have to increase your fiber...what do

you think

> Metamucil is? I eat vegetables. A lot of vegetables. Cooked, of

course, I

> don't tolerate a lot of raw. But, I don't have excremental problems

either.

> I go, every morning, within 30 minutes of getting up (it seems that

the

> first sip of coffee stimulates my system). I USED to go every 3

days. It

> doesn't float, it doesn't stink, and I only flush one time. What I

don't

> eat?

> Fatty or fried foods. My tummy will tell me in very short order

that I

> screwed up. I am going to be sick. Puking my guts up, taking my

teeth out (I

> have dentures), slam the bathroom door. Sick.

> My tummy tells me lots of things. Fortunately, I learned to listen.

I give

> it the 15 minutes it needs to talk to my very small brain. And I

listen when

> it tells me that the hot fudge sundae that looks so good is not

good for me.

> It lets me have ONE BITE. If I go over that, it BITES ME.

> I'll repeat, again, the hardest thing I had to learn was to be

patient, and

> give my brain and stomach time to communicate without my superior

> interference.. THAT is the secret to my success.

>

> Jac

>

>

> Jac

> mailto:jholdaway@c...

> http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

> http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/18/2002 8:35:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Haasevp@... writes:

<< I have been screaming this message for 3.5 years . . . maybe with

your 20 years " above and below the belt " successful experience,

people will start listening. >>

Maybe people just don't want to be screamed at.

B

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In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:13:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, NGBCPA1

writes:

> Maybe people just don't want to be screamed at.

> B

Not literally screaming. . .more like whispering (til i'm blue in the face)

and trying to pull people along . . .Its much easier to pull a thread through

the head of a needle than it is to try and push it through. The Media has

screamed DIET and EXERCISE at us for so long that we believed themand have

become a culture that is generally confused, detached from our body signals,

and more obese than ever . . . That tells me that something is off about the

information we have been given. That is why I chose to find out how

naturally slim people relate to food and their bodies and then copy them.

Their minute by minute diet may not look very balanced or healthy, or

regular, but if you look at a weeks total it works out pretty nutritionally

balanced. I hate to see people continue to struggle with weight and food

issues post op. That's all.

) Vicki