body dysmorphia/ distortion

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I have been followng the discussion about what/how we were once, what we are

now size wise, healthwise, soulwise. Just wanted to add my two cent's worth:

I do not find anyone BEFORE GB --ugly, morally inferior, a failure, a mess, a

pig, an out of control fool. I have never found a woman of size, a man of

size ugly, although I have found people of ANY size to be either heartful or

heartless, but this has nothing t do with their physical confiuration. I do

not find anyone disgusted or inferior in any way DURING or SINCE gb. I find

you all dear in so many ways and see you as brave and as heroes and heroines.

Remember, like Victor Hugo's Hunchback of Norte Dame (not the cutesy Disney

version) we were on a daily basis, the quite undefended objects of public

torment, that is, stares, looks of incredulity, mimicking our walks,

sneering, snickers, rolling eyes, pointing, disgust, insults behind and

before our backs and yelled out on the street publically. I have always loved

the Hunchback for no matter how they beat him and bloodied him, he still was

able to love with a profound purity, showing by enormous contrast who was the

REAL brute and who was the REAL beauty truly.

What you have been through. Amazing. Worthy of many movies and life stories.

The hero's journey. The heroine's journey. You cannot tell the truth about

your life and hold yourself as any less. Regardless of your imporfections and

missteps. Still Hero. Still Heroine.

You are in the midst of surviving several centuries of profound body

distortions pressed upon you as an import of both ancient and modern western

culture. This model is definitely insidious, infectious, contagious and

demeaning. It is based on absurd ideas by really rather demented " scientists "

about inferiority and superiority mainly based on racist, classist and sexist

ideals. We are all the recipients of several eras of body classism wherein

the precious body is/was treated as sub-human if it did/does not conform to

an impossibly narrow ideal.

We are changing the pattern by saying that the body ought be helped instead

of harmed, that we will to our best possible knowledge try to grant it health

and strength and happpiness, that our hearts and souls are like beautiful

jewels held in the delicate and strong settings of our bodies, and that

health and our own version of beauty is what we are dreaming and working

toward because ot this. And that we will no longer be relegated to 3rd class

sub-human status by anyone (including ourselves), that we will let no one,

regardless of whateever size, weight, age, pulchritude we are: we will define

our own idea of health. No one will any longer defined our optons, ideas,

ideals EXCEPT OURSELVES.

How radical

How holy

love,

ceep G-MOM

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In a week and a half, I'm having a VERY old anniversary of my birth. Which

one and how many? Reply privately if you'd like..and I'll share too....=D

Regards~

Jacque

> . Next

> for my very old birthday coming up soon, some very cool tinted

> shades...hmmm

> should I do amber or rose? hmmmmm... mirrored ones are so outre now....

> grin.

> any advice appreciated.

>

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Thank you Ceep.

Your toughts and spoken words are always so comforting.

Debby R. *(Wa) RNY 8/16/01

wt 332 ? now 165 goal 150. ultimate goal 140

>From: lacorona@...

>To: Graduate-OSSG

>Subject: body dysmorphia/ distortion

>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 04:38:18 EST

>

>I have been followng the discussion about what/how we were once, what we

>are

>now size wise, healthwise, soulwise. Just wanted to add my two cent's

>worth:

>I do not find anyone BEFORE GB --ugly, morally inferior, a failure, a mess,

>a

>pig, an out of control fool. I have never found a woman of size, a man of

>size ugly, although I have found people of ANY size to be either heartful

>or

>heartless, but this has nothing t do with their physical confiuration. I do

>not find anyone disgusted or inferior in any way DURING or SINCE gb. I find

>you all dear in so many ways and see you as brave and as heroes and

>heroines.

>Remember, like Victor Hugo's Hunchback of Norte Dame (not the cutesy Disney

>version) we were on a daily basis, the quite undefended objects of public

>torment, that is, stares, looks of incredulity, mimicking our walks,

>sneering, snickers, rolling eyes, pointing, disgust, insults behind and

>before our backs and yelled out on the street publically. I have always

>loved

>the Hunchback for no matter how they beat him and bloodied him, he still

>was

>able to love with a profound purity, showing by enormous contrast who was

>the

>REAL brute and who was the REAL beauty truly.

>

>What you have been through. Amazing. Worthy of many movies and life

>stories.

>The hero's journey. The heroine's journey. You cannot tell the truth about

>your life and hold yourself as any less. Regardless of your imporfections

>and

>missteps. Still Hero. Still Heroine.

>

>You are in the midst of surviving several centuries of profound body

>distortions pressed upon you as an import of both ancient and modern

>western

>culture. This model is definitely insidious, infectious, contagious and

>demeaning. It is based on absurd ideas by really rather demented

> " scientists "

>about inferiority and superiority mainly based on racist, classist and

>sexist

>ideals. We are all the recipients of several eras of body classism wherein

>the precious body is/was treated as sub-human if it did/does not conform to

>an impossibly narrow ideal.

>

>We are changing the pattern by saying that the body ought be helped instead

>of harmed, that we will to our best possible knowledge try to grant it

>health

>and strength and happpiness, that our hearts and souls are like beautiful

>jewels held in the delicate and strong settings of our bodies, and that

>health and our own version of beauty is what we are dreaming and working

>toward because ot this. And that we will no longer be relegated to 3rd

>class

>sub-human status by anyone (including ourselves), that we will let no one,

>regardless of whateever size, weight, age, pulchritude we are: we will

>define

>our own idea of health. No one will any longer defined our optons, ideas,

>ideals EXCEPT OURSELVES.

>How radical

>How holy

>

>

>love,

>ceep G-MOM

>

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[Guest guest]

there is a book called Fit From Within, by Moran, I've been reading

parts of it for some time now. its 101 tips for being fit and for that

fitness to occur from within ourselves and not from a diet or other means.

some of the short 3page tips are redundant things we all know but every once

in awhile she speaks to me - things like having to much minutia in ones

life, we focus on that instead of fitness.

its a book worth picking up because she covers some of the distorted

perceptions we feel, obsessing and such.

sue

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In a message dated 12/28/02 3:38:58 AM Central Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

<< And that we will no longer be relegated to 3rd class sub-human status by

anyone (including ourselves), >>

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Ceep, I just don't know how to stop relegating myself there. Wish I did. As

long as I still have pounds to lose (to be where I wanna be), I feel very

much 3rd class..........

Carol A

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why would you want to talk to yourself the way you would never let any

one else get away with? If you want to be mean to yourself, choose

something that is hard to do and be mean to yourself in a positive way

to acheive it. It is all energy, just energy-- you can put it to any

use you wish.

If its a problem with being 'possessed by voices from your own ancient

history " cut the loop, insert my voice, vitagal's, anyone who is

reasonably sane. You have the controls. You run the sound board and

the equalizer.

I sincerely hope you will take charge. That's what it takes to get off

the repetitive-loop. Taking over from whatever slavering drooling

demeaning thing that never knew, will never now how to run this

fine-tuned equipment called your mind and body.

don't give up

be firm

take charge

you're the leader you have been waiting for... I am not kidding around

here. I have just given you the secret of the universe. Use it. Fall

down? Get back up. Get on with it. This is your one precious and wild

life.

For anyone here--If there is more wrong than these instructions can

mediate, arrange to get the help you really need, including meds if

nec. There is no good reason in the 21st century to be trapped,

especially by oneself..

this comes with much love and hope for all of us,

ceep

> In a message dated 12/28/02 3:38:58 AM Central Standard Time,

> lacorona@a... writes:

>

> << And that we will no longer be relegated to 3rd class sub-human

status by

> anyone (includi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/29/2002 9:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lacorona@... writes:

> cut the loop, insert my voice, vitagal's, anyone who is

> reasonably sane

I try to put my grandchild's voice in here. Because their love is so pure, I

must be alright.

Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/29/2002 8:43:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tuesdynite@... writes:

> Ceep, I just don't know how to stop relegating myself there. Wish I did. As

> long as I still have pounds to lose (to be where I wanna be), I feel very

> much 3rd class..........

Carol. we do not allow 3rd class on this board. Therefore you will have to

accept that you are truly first class. Love Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

YOU'RE A CLASS ACT FAYE.

LOVE,

C

In a message dated 12/30/02 2:03:10 AM, FBayuk writes:

<< In a message dated 12/29/2002 8:43:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tuesdynite@... writes:

<< Ceep, I just don't know how to stop relegating myself there. Wish I did.

As

long as I still have pounds to lose (to be where I wanna be), I feel very

much 3rd class.......... >>

Carol. we do not allow 3rd class on this board. Therefore you will have to

accept that you are truly first class. Love Fay Bayuk >>