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Rita, Hi, I'm Sue L. from Boston and have some experience with

headaches, numbness and nerve pain with RP. I kept getting

headaches, either at the back of my head or at the temples with lots

of numbness in my fingers (especially on the sides of the fingers),

toes and arms. I would get a buzzing pain through my shoulders and

arms, especially at night when I tried to sleep. I even had trouble

moving my hands or walking, it got so bad. I ended up seeing a

neurologist, had an MRI and my problems seem to come from

inflammation of my neck. All the nerves to your body have to go

through your neck -- this is a pretty small space. I seem to have RP

in my spine and when I flare up, I get these symptoms too. If the

numbness or nerve pains seems to get better or worse if you move your

neck forward or back, this might be a clue. Some people get this

anyway without RP, just from wear and tear or a naturally tight

spinal space.

I went through physical therapy for my neck and am now careful to do

stretches and keep my neck strong and watch what position I sleep in.

It hasn't gone away but the headaches are mostly gone. I take a low

dose of elavil (generic name, amitripyline) every night at bedtime

and this helps a lot. I also take voltaren (a NSAID) for my RP and if

you're not taking an anti-inflammatory drug, this may help. Now that

I know what my symptoms mean, it's not so scary. I was pretty

miserable until the diagnosis. Headaches, nerve pain and numbness can

also be a sign of vasculitis (inflammation of the blood vessels)

which is a more serious thing. You should definitely try to find out

the source of your problem.

Good luck to you, SUE L.

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--- " T. Lovett " lovett@...> wrote:

> Rita, Hi, I'm Sue L. from Boston and have some

> experience with

> headaches, numbness and nerve pain with RP. I kept

> getting

> headaches, either at the back of my head or at the

> temples with lots

> of numbness in my fingers (especially on the sides

> of the fingers),

> toes and arms. I would get a buzzing pain through my

> shoulders and

> arms, especially at night when I tried to sleep. I

> even had trouble

> moving my hands or walking, it got so bad. I ended

> up seeing a

> neurologist, had an MRI and my problems seem to come

> from

> inflammation of my neck. All the nerves to your

> body have to go

> through your neck -- this is a pretty small space.

> I seem to have RP

> in my spine and when I flare up, I get these

> symptoms too. If the

> numbness or nerve pains seems to get better or worse

> if you move your

> neck forward or back, this might be a clue. Some

> people get this

> anyway without RP, just from wear and tear or a

> naturally tight

> spinal space.

>

> I went through physical therapy for my neck and am

> now careful to do

> stretches and keep my neck strong and watch what

> position I sleep in.

> It hasn't gone away but the headaches are mostly

> gone. I take a low

> dose of elavil (generic name, amitripyline) every

> night at bedtime

> and this helps a lot. I also take voltaren (a NSAID)

> for my RP and if

> you're not taking an anti-inflammatory drug, this

> may help. Now that

> I know what my symptoms mean, it's not so scary. I

> was pretty

> miserable until the diagnosis. Headaches, nerve pain

> and numbness can

> also be a sign of vasculitis (inflammation of the

> blood vessels)

> which is a more serious thing. You should definitely

> try to find out

> the source of your problem.

>

> Good luck to you, SUE L.

Sue,

Thank you so much for responding. So many strange

things are happening. RP is a very puzzling disease.

So many different symptoms are related to it and yet

so many are not. Today I have experienced some pain

in my back around my kidney area. Not bad but

irritating. Here again, is this RP, strained back,

kidneys (who knows). Again, thanks for responding.

How are you doing. How long have you had RP.

I live in Montgomery AL and only know of one other

person in AL with the disease. Let me hear from you.

Rita

>

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In a message dated 7/11/01 3:18:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lovett@... writes:

<<

Rita, Hi, I'm Sue L. from Boston and have some experience with

headaches, numbness and nerve pain with RP. I kept getting

headaches, either at the back of my head or at the temples with lots

of numbness in my fingers (especially on the sides of the fingers),

toes and arms. >>

Sue thanks for the great post... I have the same symptoms and through an MRI

found out basically the same results. I also have fusion in my neck. You

are sooo right about once you find out the cause, it isn't as scarey. At

first they thought I had MS.

It is so good to see you post. I have missed you. Hope you are doing

better. Know you are in my thoughts.

Are you enjoying your summer? Keep the posts coming.

hugs

C

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Hi Everyone:

Cath here. I'm trying to get to my messages and saw this one and

boy does it hit home. I did not however have any fusion in my neck,

but did have stenosis, and a herniated bulging disc at C3-C4. I was

also being worked up for MS but MRI of the brain was absolutely normal

(ha ha little do they know huh!)

Just wanted to let everyone know I am doing better. Was able to

get off the pred from after by spells attacking my nervous system.

I did find some reference in the RP literature where they reported one

other person who had lower paralysis like I experienced when I collapsed.

Thank goodness I had strong elbows to pull me to my purse and chew the

Ibuprofen and Pred. I have total feeling back now in my legs.

No more horrible headaches like before either. Still get an occassional

one, but nothing like the one that caused such pain and drooped my left

eyelid almost closed.

I tried to research what I had changed during those times and the only

thing I can think of is that I did put down a pellet form of bug killer

and fertilizer on the grass with a spreader. It wasn't liquid, but

I did water lightly after putting it down as directed. I think I

nuked myself with the chemicals and it attacked my nervous system.

This would directly correlate with what some of us have noticed with

other chemical and why RP is now presenting in Gulf war vets. I know

a Citronella candle can cause a flair within 1-2 minutes and I can hardly

breathe when I am exposed for even a fleeting period of time. I strongly

believe their is some allergic component to this disease with my body and

when I talked with my pulminologist (the one who worked with RP patients

at Yale), he felt that this was very likely and that is why the Adipex-p

I take (which has an ephedrine like property) is so helpful in keeping

my respiratory system in good shape. It keeps a constant amount in

my body so that it prevents my respiratory system from being destroyed.

He was absolutely amazed that my PFT was normal in December and had no

explanation as to why I am hanging in there so well regarding that other

than the Minocin and Adipex-p. Ephedrine is also given to patient's

who are having severe allergic reactions to things and has been documented

to help in a nebulized form in severe cases of RP.

Wanted to let everyone know to be careful if using chemicals or around

them since they attack my nervous system so dramatically.

Hope everyone is doing well and I do think of you often. I am

still fighting the bank trying to get Blain off of the Mortgage but this

company is absolutely awful. The house is already in my name only

and I have paid all the payments for almost 2 years on time, but they are

trying to add thousands on to doing the qualifying assumption. Thank

goodness God has brought me an angel there in the form of a supervisor

that has now intervened and states will handle it directly from here.

The stress from this has been horrible, but once again I'm giving it to

God and he is carrying me through the rough times. I will truly celebrate

once this is totally over and this part of my life is closed.

Work is still hard, but I resigned as the team leader of the major doctor

since I was up against someone who is mad I got the position so quickly

and determined to see me fail. It doesn't mean a cut in pay so I

am learning to let go and simply do the best I can. It's still

very hard there, but my health is starting to get better and I know God

has stepped in again to get me through this.

Heidi, Let me know the phone number where you will be and we will

work on getting together. I should be able to drive over to meet

you and would love to give you a hug!

Again, my best to all and I continue to send prayers your way.

God has brought me through so much as he has with others, I know that he

will find a way for all of us to somehow deal with all the difficulties

with this disease.

To the new members, hang in there and keep fighting the docs that don't

listen. It's very hard, but there are some that you can still find

that will work with you and the longer you have this, the better you know

your body and can predict early flares and work to control. I'm only

38 with a 7 year old child who I'm raising as a single parent and keep

a fulltime job and take care of my house, lawn, pool etc. I won't

pretend it's easy, but with God and my knowledge, I will work to fight

this darn disease at all cost.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Take care,

Cath

RCColloran@... wrote:

In a message dated 7/11/01 3:18:10 PM Pacific

Daylight Time,

lovett@... writes:

<<

Rita, Hi, I'm Sue L. from Boston and have some experience with

headaches, numbness and nerve pain with RP. I kept getting

headaches, either at the back of my head or at the temples with

lots

of numbness in my fingers (especially on the sides

of the fingers),

toes and arms. >>

Sue thanks for the great post... I have the same symptoms and through

an MRI

found out basically the same results. I also have fusion

in my neck. You

are sooo right about once you find out the cause, it isn't as scarey.

At

first they thought I had MS.

It is so good to see you post. I have missed you. Hope

you are doing

better. Know you are in my thoughts.

Are you enjoying your summer? Keep the posts coming.

hugs

C

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Dear Sue L.,

I live in Kittery Maine but am from Mass and My Rheumy is in

Boston. I see Dr. Jack Bukowski at Brigham and Womens. I know you don't see

him because he said my sister (who also has RP) and I are the only RP

patients he has seen. Who do you see? I understand you live in Boston. My

sister lives in Plaistow NH.

Thanks,

Ellen

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