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> Exactly how BAD did everyone feel for the first few days and when is the

turning point

for better? I know everyone is different of course. My son has been in bed

since we got

home from hospital, he does get up to shower - I feel like i should be

encouraging him to

get up, sit up...should I? Nothing seems to taste good to him so of course i am

constantly

pushing liquids. Last night he couldn't breathe, so we bought a cool air mist

humidifier,

seems to have helped some. This morning he is complaining of

heartburn...HEARTBURN?

Did anyone have this...the only thing i can think of is that it's from the

mixture of milk

products and acids, like juices. I remember someone saying they slept for a

week...should i let him do that if that's what his body is telling him to do, or

be the pain in

the butt mom that i feel like i am and make him get up and sit up for a while

each day???

help!! And is DAY THREE really the worst?? I also am interested in the ice

question -- I

doubt that

> ice is still helping...my surgeon's nurse said they never switch to heat, but

i can see

where it might be comforting, even if it didn't do anything to alleviate the

swelling -- as

long as it doesn't contribute to it...sorry for so many questions, this board is

incredibly

helpful and I don't know what i'd do without it and you all!

>

> Marcia

Marcia,

My own experience differs from Jay's, but looks like your son. I had real

heartburns, they were caused by the fact that the stomach got ready to receive

food, but I wasn't in the mood to eat. The excess acid created heartburns.

They will go away as soon as he eats something, and not too acid stuff at first.

Milk may sounds like a wonderful idea, but it's not. Milk contains calcium, a

natural antacid. The problem is, to get rid of it, the stomach produces more

acid... Vicious circle... So, the first meals your son should get would be

Ensure

or low acid stuff (for 24 to 36 hours), then re introduce whatever he liked

before, the stomach will handle it. Acid stuff includes orange juice, apple

juice,

etc. That doesn't mean he can't get orange juice if he likes it, of course not,

simply make sure he gets it with something else (half a glass of Ensure +

half a glass of juice). That'll make a nice meal, easily digestible.

As for ice, my surgeon suggested switching to heat 48 hours after the surgery,

and the hospital agreed as well as they offered hot towels without speaking

with the surgeon first. I know it got me relief, especially in the sinus area

where I had trully bad pain.

The worst day was day #3 at the hospital. I couldn't breath normally, I had

a runny nose 24 hours / day, I wasn't sleeping because even with morphine,

pain was at 7 on 10. Then, after that, it just got better every day.

Ray

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Remember, now, I had lower only. Nothing complicated and the surgery

went well. I was a LOT older than your son.

I felt pretty much like a dishrag. Just plain not interested in

anything.

Yes. It is important for him to move -- he probably will not get a

blood clot, as he is young and presumably healthy. But any moving he

can do will help to prevent that -- and constipation, as well.

If I'm remembering right, Fiddly's surgeon believes that heat

DOES contribute to swelling. Mine does not, and heat did not make me

swell. It felt good.

I reckon you flips your coin and takes your choices...

I'm thinking that Gatorade and juices may be contributing to the

heartburn, but probably not the milk, although milk stuff may be

contributing to the congestion and mucous. I know -- damned if you do

and damned if you don't. Do try some broth, if he finds it palatable.

It tastes best, of course, when mama cuts up the carrots, onions and

celery, and stirs the bones and juices herself over a slow, lingering

fire... Just to add to your joys! And there have been folks who have

tried doing mashed potatoes and thinning them a LOT and put them into

wired mouths. Just be really sure that you have them liquefied before

you try it. I don't want to encourage you to choke your son!

Has he been in a hot tub or shower? Don't let him do either (I'm

thinking he had a graft from the hip, so that may eliminate the tub)

without supervision, and I mean the kind who's in the bathroom, in

case he gets groggy. That may help him feel a lot better, though, if

you can manage it. A shower chair could be a good idea.

Cammie

> Exactly how BAD did everyone feel for the first few days and when

is the turning point for better? I know everyone is different of

course. My son has been in bed since we got home from hospital, he

does get up to shower - I feel like i should be encouraging him to

get up, sit up...should I? Nothing seems to taste good to him so of

course i am constantly pushing liquids. Last night he couldn't

breathe, so we bought a cool air mist humidifier, seems to have

helped some. This morning he is complaining of

heartburn...HEARTBURN? Did anyone have this...the only thing i can

think of is that it's from the mixture of milk products and acids,

like juices. I remember someone saying they slept for a

week...should i let him do that if that's what his body is telling

him to do, or be the pain in the butt mom that i feel like i am and

make him get up and sit up for a while each day??? help!! And is

DAY THREE really the worst?? I also am interested in the ice

question -- I doubt that

> ice is still helping...my surgeon's nurse said they never switch

to heat, but i can see where it might be comforting, even if it

didn't do anything to alleviate the swelling -- as long as it

doesn't contribute to it...sorry for so many questions, this board is

incredibly helpful and I don't know what i'd do without it and you

all!

>

> Marcia

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Oh yeah, and depending on the circumstances in his nether regions,

maybe a bit of thinned Maalox or Milk of Magnesia, to help with the

heartburn?

Things should start getting a lot better in the next few days...

C.

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> Thanks, thanks, thanks to everyone who answered my wailings!! It really helps

to know

you're not the only one dealing with something you think is out of the

blue...his

" heartburn " went away, and i calmed down and stopped trying to push soups that

he

doesn't want...He's drinking the chocolate ensure with lots of liquids and

juices in

between, and now we're all living in harmony again (sort of :)

>

> Marcia

Glad to hear that Marcia :-)

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If he's getting a bunch of Ensure -- believe it or not, it takes 8

cans a day to do full nutrition for someone who's doing major

healing, but I think that's an unrealistic goal. Anyhow if he's

getting a bunch of Ensure, he'll be ok, I'd bet, at least until he

gets signals from his body that he's in need of more. And then he'll

be willing to try to find the way there.

Relax. You're being a most excellent mom. I never had that role -- I

was a wicked stepmom for a while, to a 12-year-old. We went through

the torments of braces, back in the old, " clunky-style " days,

(believe it or not, they used to band each tooth, before docs and

scientists found the later, most excellent glues to hold brackets in

place), but not surgery, thank heavens. I don't think I would have

been up to it!

Cammie

> Thanks, thanks, thanks to everyone who answered my wailings!! It

really helps to know you're not the only one dealing with something

you think is out of the blue...his " heartburn " went away, and i

calmed down and stopped trying to push soups that he doesn't

want...He's drinking the chocolate ensure with lots of liquids and

juices in between, and now we're all living in harmony again (sort

of :)

>

> Marcia

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> Yes. It is important for him to move -- he probably will not get a

> blood clot, as he is young and presumably healthy. But any moving

he

> can do will help to prevent that -- and constipation, as well.

Walking does more than prevent blood clots. It increases blood

flow, bringing blood to the healing sites and letting it do its work

there. Moderate walking can bring down swelling and aid healing.

Mild exercise also helps you get a more refreshing sleep later.

Kris

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