Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Good evening everyone, I haven't uploaded pictures lately because my face isn't changing that much anymore. I will, however, upload new pictures tomorrow. This evening, I had to let go of my camera, my friend needed it. I hope it comes back ok... (along with my friend as well!) I've lost another two pounds over the weekend. I don't understand it, I'm eating more and more, and I'm not more active than before. I've now lost a total of 12 pounds. Well, not to say I didn't have any to loose before. Only it's strange. Also, I managed to gain two pounds last week. I can now chew a little better then I did when I first got permission to remove the rubber bands, last Thursday. Yesterday, I was able to eat two (2) macaroni noodles, with having to swallow them unchewed.. I also had another egg, this time it was also easier for me to chew and swallow it. Slowly, but surely, I'm getting ready for my Happy Meal..! The numbness on my face is also getting smaller and smaller. I don't know if it's the natural course of things, or the exercises I was asked to do, but one way or the other, my cheeks are moving better now. And they are better at the end of the day, compared to when I woke up in the morning. I was also asked to force my mouth open. This, sadly, I don't believe it's having any effect. I'm still at two fingers, and I don't believe I've gained even a millimeter since I started these exercises. The tingling sensation is now all over my face, and mouth. My tongue on its left side has begun as well (it's numb everywhere but a small thin area on the right and the tip). My cheek, my nose, my sinus, everywhere it's tingling. The worst part is probably my chin, which is doing this 24/7 (ok... 22 / 7). And, it's driving me crazy! This whole thing (all over my face) is getting worst at around 10 PM then during day time. So you'd imagine what I do at 9h30 PM... I'm getting to bed, to avoid it as much as possible. On the bad news dept, some of my teeth are hurting, and two of them, badly hurting me. I'll discuss this with my surgeon. One of the worst two was already aching prior to the surgery. In fact, it began a few days after the ortho installed his tortute stuff (a.k.a. braces), but it got better with passing months (years). After the surgery, the pain got awaken. The other teeth weren't causing any trouble before. I took a long walk today. The first long walk since the surgery. I walked like two hours. At the end, I was tired, and hungry, but to my surprise, I wasn't exhausted. Eventhough I carried packages (I went at the drugstore to get some baby food... well, a lot of baby food!). After I ate, I didn't have this irresistible need to sleep like the last time I took a walk. All this to say, my energy level are getting back to where they were, I can feel it! Pleasant surprise!! Oh, and I did it without the cane... !! Woohoo! Although, by the end, it felt like I could have used it, but only the very last minutes (2 or 3). I'm very happy about that! The skin in my face is getting oily, and my hands are dry as they've never been before. Can I transfer the oil from my face onto my hands? Seriously, I keep putting hand lotion in my hand. What lasted a few hours before the surgery now lasts... 30 minutes, or around. My face was never oily before. Except for the nose area. And I am washing everyday. But I'm not overdoing it (not more than once a day), because I know that this can activate the oily skin. If anybody has a suggestion (or two), that would be appreciated. I'm already using a special men soap (Clinique), but it doesn't seem to help anymore (it did, before the surgery, got rid of the oily skin on my nose). That's it for today. I will have another big walk on Friday, there's a camera store opening a few blocks from here, and being free all day long, I wouldn't miss it! Take care everyone, and especially those going under tomorrow morning. We'll be thinking of you a lot! Ray http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > Good evening everyone, > Ray, you're an inspiration. 3 days to go and i am freaked as heck. Nervous, nervous, nervous. Besides the baby, marriage disintegration, blah, blah, blah, i am 5'10 " tall and weigh 126 pounds, so a little nervous about the weight issue. OK, tell me. what is the tingling stuff all about. And be honest, is there TONS of drooling as you can't feel stuff? The 2 noodle thing freaked me out. This is what makes me really nervous. How is the oral hygeine part? I am wanting to be fairly active as early as i can handle it, but imagine trying to do laps in my parents living room, as i might not want to " be public " as early as i want to walk. How long was it hard to speak? (Thinking of my baby of course!) Thanks, (p.s. i checked out your site, i think you look great) > I haven't uploaded pictures lately because my face isn't changing that > much anymore. I will, however, upload new pictures tomorrow. This > evening, I had to let go of my camera, my friend needed it. I hope it > comes back ok... (along with my friend as well!) > > I've lost another two pounds over the weekend. I don't understand it, > I'm eating more and more, and I'm not more active than before. I've > now lost a total of 12 pounds. Well, not to say I didn't have any to > loose before. Only it's strange. Also, I managed to gain two pounds > last week. > > I can now chew a little better then I did when I first got permission to > remove the rubber bands, last Thursday. Yesterday, I was able to eat > two (2) macaroni noodles, with having to swallow them unchewed.. I > also had another egg, this time it was also easier for me to chew and > swallow it. Slowly, but surely, I'm getting ready for my Happy Meal..! > > The numbness on my face is also getting smaller and smaller. I don't > know if it's the natural course of things, or the exercises I was asked > to do, but one way or the other, my cheeks are moving better now. > And they are better at the end of the day, compared to when I woke > up in the morning. I was also asked to force my mouth open. This, > sadly, I don't believe it's having any effect. I'm still at two fingers, > and I don't believe I've gained even a millimeter since I started these > exercises. > > The tingling sensation is now all over my face, and mouth. My tongue > on its left side has begun as well (it's numb everywhere but a small > thin area on the right and the tip). My cheek, my nose, my sinus, > everywhere it's tingling. The worst part is probably my chin, which is > doing this 24/7 (ok... 22 / 7). And, it's driving me crazy! This whole > thing (all over my face) is getting worst at around 10 PM then during > day time. So you'd imagine what I do at 9h30 PM... I'm getting to bed, > to avoid it as much as possible. > > On the bad news dept, some of my teeth are hurting, and two of them, > badly hurting me. I'll discuss this with my surgeon. One of the worst > two was already aching prior to the surgery. In fact, it began a few > days after the ortho installed his tortute stuff (a.k.a. braces), but it > got better with passing months (years). After the surgery, the pain got > awaken. The other teeth weren't causing any trouble before. > > I took a long walk today. The first long walk since the surgery. I walked > like two hours. At the end, I was tired, and hungry, but to my surprise, > I wasn't exhausted. Eventhough I carried packages (I went at the > drugstore to get some baby food... well, a lot of baby food!). After I > ate, I didn't have this irresistible need to sleep like the last time I took > a walk. All this to say, my energy level are getting back to where they > were, I can feel it! Pleasant surprise!! Oh, and I did it without the > cane... !! Woohoo! Although, by the end, it felt like I could have used > it, but only the very last minutes (2 or 3). I'm very happy about that! > > The skin in my face is getting oily, and my hands are dry as they've > never been before. Can I transfer the oil from my face onto my hands? > Seriously, I keep putting hand lotion in my hand. What lasted a few hours > before the surgery now lasts... 30 minutes, or around. My face was never > oily before. Except for the nose area. And I am washing everyday. But > I'm not overdoing it (not more than once a day), because I know that this > can activate the oily skin. If anybody has a suggestion (or two), that would > be appreciated. I'm already using a special men soap (Clinique), but it > doesn't seem to help anymore (it did, before the surgery, got rid of the > oily skin on my nose). > > That's it for today. I will have another big walk on Friday, there's a > camera store opening a few blocks from here, and being free all day > long, I wouldn't miss it! > > Take care everyone, and especially those going under tomorrow > morning. We'll be thinking of you a lot! > > Ray > http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html > http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > I've lost another two pounds over the weekend. I don't understand it, > I'm eating more and more, and I'm not more active than before. I've > now lost a total of 12 pounds. Ray-- The body does amazing things. When you don't eat much, your body shuts down and goes into " starvation " mode. It conserves everything you eat and slows down your metabolism. When you increase your food intake, eventually, your body will readjust itself because it realizes you are not going to starve. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > Ray-- > > The body does amazing things. When you don't eat much, your body > shuts down and goes into " starvation " mode. It conserves everything > you eat and slows down your metabolism. When you increase your food > intake, eventually, your body will readjust itself because it > realizes you are not going to starve. > > Kim So I've discovered! And I've just discovered something else.. SNEEZING HURTS A LOT !!!! I just sneezed... and it hurts in my joints and in the muscles of my cheeks. The first thing I did was to check if my jaws was still attached... I can confirm this: the rubber bands saved the day :-) Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > > Ray-- Sneezing. OH MY GOSH, I have been thinking about yawns or coughs (can you yawn?), but not sneezes. Ahhhhhh. > > The body does amazing things. When you don't eat much, your body > > shuts down and goes into " starvation " mode. It conserves everything > > you eat and slows down your metabolism. When you increase your food > > intake, eventually, your body will readjust itself because it > > realizes you are not going to starve. > > > > Kim > > So I've discovered! > > And I've just discovered something else.. SNEEZING HURTS A LOT !!!! > I just sneezed... and it hurts in my joints and in the muscles of my cheeks. > > The first thing I did was to check if my jaws was still attached... I can > confirm this: the rubber bands saved the day :-) > > Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > > Good evening everyone, > > Ray, you're an inspiration. 3 days to go and i am freaked as > heck. Nervous, nervous, nervous. Besides the baby, marriage > disintegration, blah, blah, blah, i am 5'10 " tall and weigh 126 > pounds, so a little nervous about the weight issue. OK, tell me. > what is the tingling stuff all about. And be honest, is there TONS of > drooling as you can't feel stuff? The 2 noodle thing freaked me out. > This is what makes me really nervous. How is the oral hygeine part? > I am wanting to be fairly active as early as i can handle it, but > imagine trying to do laps in my parents living room, as i might not > want to " be public " as early as i want to walk. How long was it hard > to speak? (Thinking of my baby of course!) Thanks, (p.s. i > checked out your site, i think you look great) First, thanks for the kind words :-) Ok.. let's do this in order : Being nervous is a good thing. Being over nervous isn't. Try to relax. Have music that will calm your nerves, drink less coffee (or have less cigarettes if it's your case), go outside, take deep breaths. Ask yourself : can I do something to change this? The answer will probably be " No " , so why bother wasting time being nervous. Have fun in other ways ;-) I cannot say that I relate to all your issues, but I can say that I imagine it would be tough on anyone. Try to set them asside for a week. The world will wait, and concentrate on quality time with your baby. I don't know how old your baby is but surely, you could hold him / her in your arms, they do have this calming quality :-) The tingling is when the nerves reconnect themselves. Not that they've actually been damaged, but as soon as they are touched, the slightest, they react by numbing the area they control. The more work, the more numb areas ones get. In my case, I got the full deluxe surgery, with extra bacon (ok... I'M OBSESSED BY FOOD THESE DAYS!!). So, I pretty much had all my cheeks (from one inch to each ears) numb, from right after the eyes to the voice thing (my native language is French, so I don't know how you call this thing men have big in the neck area, for the voice..), including half of my nose. My gums, all of them, my tongue, 90% of it, were also numb from the beginning. Anyway... the numbness is getting away, day by day. Nothing to fear about. Just be prepared for when you'll put makeup, you just won't feel a thing in certain areas. In other, you'll feel like the same thing when you squeeze one arm for two long, but only when you'll touch this area. For me, the toughest part is when I shaved. But, being of work for several weeks, I only shave when necessary. The 2 noodles... The problem is, I had a so much dysfunctional bite before the surgery, that I developped a technique to eat. When I tried to use that same technique after I was permitted to eat soft food, it didn't work. I only had 3 functionning teeth before the surgery. None of the others were touching, I couldn't chew with any one of the others. Also, being totally numb (teeth, gum, cheeks and tongue), it's kind of difficult to know how to chew with new alignment, and where's the food. My surgeon agreed that Kraft Dinner wasn't the best of choices for a beginner like me. I later tried an egg, with more success. Mashed potatoes (with a touch of gravy) and ground ham were also better choices. Basically, as someone else on this board outlined, all that is consistent enough to that the pieces won't get lost in your mouth. And, most importantly, DO NOT WORRY BEFORE GETTING THERE! It's counter productive, pointless, and you could worry for absolutely no reason, as each and every individual reacts differently to the surgery. Know that this COULD happen, but concentrate on getting ready for the surgery, preparing the medicine you'll need, making sure you have lots of clean clothes so that you won't have to do the laundry once you get back home, etc. Those are better things to do :-) Also, I understand that some have far more less numb areas thant I do. Should I start to panick? No, just not yet anyway. I've " allowed " , in some way, my body a period of 3 months to heal. After that, we'll start asking questions, if things haven't returned to normal. Oral hygeine : For the first 7 days, it's salted water (a stuff you buy at the drugstore). It tastes as bad as its strenght. So, it's pretty good at cleaning the mouth. Only, it tastes awful. At day #8, in my case, I was allowed the WaterPick machine, AT THE VERY LOWEST SETTING, and brushing my teeth with no toothpast, only that awful salted water. That helped cleaned the braces. At day #14, I was permitted to brush my teeth with a touch of toothpaste. And believe me, you'll know when you'll exceed the limit on toothpaste, because it'll hurt a lot! Since you'll be having liquids at first, it's important to rinse with the salted water after each meal. I mean like to make sure you don't have milk stuck somwhere. You use a syringe, and inject the water in the mouth with it. You inclined your head over the toilet sink, and let go of the water, no pushing it. Then, once you've done this a few times left and right (and if you can, on the tongue as well), you rinse with regular water to remove the taste. I did it with lukewarm water because I can't stand the cold on my teeth. Strangely, even numb, I could feel the cold on my teeth. Exercise : You probably won't have the strenght to run miles and miles until a few days after the surgery. I was put asleep for 9.5 hours (or close to) and I had a piece of hip bones taken out and grafted in my face, so that made it harder for me to walk. But, talking a walk outside will help clear out the chemicals you were injected. So, you might want to avoid restaurants, groceries, and places like that, but surely, a walk outside in a big park will be possible. Speaking : I could mumble a few words on day #4. Ok, let's get it right. I woke up with one rubber band, very loose. In fact, so loose I could talk like before the surgery. Problem is, the swelling in my TMJ pushed my lower jaw forward (too forward). I was then installed with several other rubber bands. On day #4, I started to talk with more or less sense. Since then, it only got better. Today, as I went shopping, I tested my new speach (I can open my mouth a little now, about 0.5 inch). Success at the first try! I even chatted with two patients at my dentist's clinic (she's also my friend, so I visited her like a friend, not her patient), and I was able to talk with the clerck at the drugstore. Again, a complete success. That's it, I believe. If I miss a question, or if you want to know more, write again! Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 > > > Ray-- > Sneezing. OH MY GOSH, I have been thinking about yawns or coughs > (can you yawn?), but not sneezes. Ahhhhhh. Yawn is the most difficult of all to get rid of. No, I can't yawn. I'm banded (shut with rubber bands). If I pull too much, the bones and plates will be damaged. So when a yawn presents it self, like just NOW!!, I take deep, long breath. That helps a lot! Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Ray, You're amazing. Thanks so much for the great feedback. It was honest and expressive. You were very detailed on the mouth rinsing thing and i can understand exactly what you were saying! The point about the fresh air is a good one - maybe i'll do laps in my parents back yard instead of first floor! THank you for taking the time to put so much effort into your reply. 3 days to go. Smiles, (Oh, the 2 noodle thing made a lot of sense after you explained your previous bite!( In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " Ray " wrote: > > > > Good evening everyone, > > > Ray, you're an inspiration. 3 days to go and i am freaked as > > heck. Nervous, nervous, nervous. Besides the baby, marriage > > disintegration, blah, blah, blah, i am 5'10 " tall and weigh 126 > > pounds, so a little nervous about the weight issue. OK, tell me. > > what is the tingling stuff all about. And be honest, is there TONS of > > drooling as you can't feel stuff? The 2 noodle thing freaked me out. > > This is what makes me really nervous. How is the oral hygeine part? > > I am wanting to be fairly active as early as i can handle it, but > > imagine trying to do laps in my parents living room, as i might not > > want to " be public " as early as i want to walk. How long was it hard > > to speak? (Thinking of my baby of course!) Thanks, (p.s. i > > checked out your site, i think you look great) > > First, thanks for the kind words :-) > > Ok.. let's do this in order : > > Being nervous is a good thing. Being over nervous isn't. Try to > relax. Have music that will calm your nerves, drink less coffee (or > have less cigarettes if it's your case), go outside, take deep breaths. > > Ask yourself : can I do something to change this? The answer will > probably be " No " , so why bother wasting time being nervous. Have > fun in other ways ;-) I cannot say that I relate to all your issues, > but I can say that I imagine it would be tough on anyone. Try to > set them asside for a week. The world will wait, and concentrate > on quality time with your baby. I don't know how old your baby is > but surely, you could hold him / her in your arms, they do have this > calming quality :-) > > The tingling is when the nerves reconnect themselves. Not that they've > actually been damaged, but as soon as they are touched, the slightest, > they react by numbing the area they control. The more work, the more > numb areas ones get. In my case, I got the full deluxe surgery, with > extra bacon (ok... I'M OBSESSED BY FOOD THESE DAYS!!). So, I pretty > much had all my cheeks (from one inch to each ears) numb, from > right after the eyes to the voice thing (my native language is French, so > I don't know how you call this thing men have big in the neck area, for > the voice..), including half of my nose. My gums, all of them, my tongue, > 90% of it, were also numb from the beginning. Anyway... the numbness > is getting away, day by day. Nothing to fear about. Just be prepared > for when you'll put makeup, you just won't feel a thing in certain areas. > In other, you'll feel like the same thing when you squeeze one arm for > two long, but only when you'll touch this area. For me, the toughest > part is when I shaved. But, being of work for several weeks, I only shave > when necessary. > > The 2 noodles... The problem is, I had a so much dysfunctional bite > before the surgery, that I developped a technique to eat. When I tried to > use that same technique after I was permitted to eat soft food, it didn't > work. I only had 3 functionning teeth before the surgery. None of the > others were touching, I couldn't chew with any one of the others. Also, > being totally numb (teeth, gum, cheeks and tongue), it's kind of difficult > to know how to chew with new alignment, and where's the food. > > My surgeon agreed that Kraft Dinner wasn't the best of choices for a > beginner like me. I later tried an egg, with more success. Mashed > potatoes (with a touch of gravy) and ground ham were also better choices. > Basically, as someone else on this board outlined, all that is consistent > enough to that the pieces won't get lost in your mouth. > > And, most importantly, DO NOT WORRY BEFORE GETTING THERE! It's > counter productive, pointless, and you could worry for absolutely no > reason, as each and every individual reacts differently to the surgery. > Know that this COULD happen, but concentrate on getting ready for the > surgery, preparing the medicine you'll need, making sure you have lots > of clean clothes so that you won't have to do the laundry once you get > back home, etc. Those are better things to do :-) > > Also, I understand that some have far more less numb areas thant I do. > Should I start to panick? No, just not yet anyway. I've " allowed " , in some > way, my body a period of 3 months to heal. After that, we'll start asking > questions, if things haven't returned to normal. > > Oral hygeine : For the first 7 days, it's salted water (a stuff you buy at > the drugstore). It tastes as bad as its strenght. So, it's pretty good at > cleaning the mouth. Only, it tastes awful. At day #8, in my case, I was > allowed the WaterPick machine, AT THE VERY LOWEST SETTING, and > brushing my teeth with no toothpast, only that awful salted water. That > helped cleaned the braces. At day #14, I was permitted to brush my teeth > with a touch of toothpaste. And believe me, you'll know when you'll > exceed the limit on toothpaste, because it'll hurt a lot! Since you'll > be having liquids at first, it's important to rinse with the salted water after > each meal. I mean like to make sure you don't have milk stuck > somwhere. You use a syringe, and inject the water in the mouth with it. > You inclined your head over the toilet sink, and let go of the water, no > pushing it. Then, once you've done this a few times left and right (and if > you can, on the tongue as well), you rinse with regular water to remove the > taste. I did it with lukewarm water because I can't stand the cold on my > teeth. Strangely, even numb, I could feel the cold on my teeth. > > Exercise : You probably won't have the strenght to run miles and miles > until a few days after the surgery. I was put asleep for 9.5 hours (or close > to) and I had a piece of hip bones taken out and grafted in my face, so > that made it harder for me to walk. But, talking a walk outside will help > clear out the chemicals you were injected. So, you might want to avoid > restaurants, groceries, and places like that, but surely, a walk outside in > a big park will be possible. > > Speaking : I could mumble a few words on day #4. Ok, let's get it right. > I woke up with one rubber band, very loose. In fact, so loose I could > talk like before the surgery. Problem is, the swelling in my TMJ pushed > my lower jaw forward (too forward). I was then installed with several > other rubber bands. On day #4, I started to talk with more or less sense. > Since then, it only got better. Today, as I went shopping, I tested my new > speach (I can open my mouth a little now, about 0.5 inch). Success at > the first try! I even chatted with two patients at my dentist's clinic (she's > also my friend, so I visited her like a friend, not her patient), and I was > able to talk with the clerck at the drugstore. Again, a complete success. > > That's it, I believe. If I miss a question, or if you want to know more, > write again! > > Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I didn't lose any weight to speak of; maybe a pound at the beginning. I'm 13 days post-op and my weight is back to where it was. Of course I was skinny to begin with (5'10 " 150 lbs) which may be a factor. If you are diligent about taking your nutrition I believe you can keep the weight loss to a minimum. Jay > > Good evening everyone, > > Ray, you're an inspiration. 3 days to go and i am freaked as > heck. Nervous, nervous, nervous. Besides the baby, marriage > disintegration, blah, blah, blah, i am 5'10 " tall and weigh 126 > pounds, so a little nervous about the weight issue. OK, tell me. > what is the tingling stuff all about. And be honest, is there TONS of > drooling as you can't feel stuff? The 2 noodle thing freaked me out. > This is what makes me really nervous. How is the oral hygeine part? > I am wanting to be fairly active as early as i can handle it, but > imagine trying to do laps in my parents living room, as i might not > want to " be public " as early as i want to walk. How long was it hard > to speak? (Thinking of my baby of course!) Thanks, (p.s. i > checked out your site, i think you look great) > > I haven't uploaded pictures lately because my face isn't changing > that > > much anymore. I will, however, upload new pictures tomorrow. This > > evening, I had to let go of my camera, my friend needed it. I hope > it > > comes back ok... (along with my friend as well!) > > > > I've lost another two pounds over the weekend. I don't understand > it, > > I'm eating more and more, and I'm not more active than before. I've > > now lost a total of 12 pounds. Well, not to say I didn't have any > to > > loose before. Only it's strange. Also, I managed to gain two > pounds > > last week. > > > > I can now chew a little better then I did when I first got > permission to > > remove the rubber bands, last Thursday. Yesterday, I was able to > eat > > two (2) macaroni noodles, with having to swallow them unchewed.. I > > also had another egg, this time it was also easier for me to chew > and > > swallow it. Slowly, but surely, I'm getting ready for my Happy > Meal..! > > > > The numbness on my face is also getting smaller and smaller. I > don't > > know if it's the natural course of things, or the exercises I was > asked > > to do, but one way or the other, my cheeks are moving better now. > > And they are better at the end of the day, compared to when I woke > > up in the morning. I was also asked to force my mouth open. This, > > sadly, I don't believe it's having any effect. I'm still at two > fingers, > > and I don't believe I've gained even a millimeter since I started > these > > exercises. > > > > The tingling sensation is now all over my face, and mouth. My > tongue > > on its left side has begun as well (it's numb everywhere but a small > > thin area on the right and the tip). My cheek, my nose, my sinus, > > everywhere it's tingling. The worst part is probably my chin, > which is > > doing this 24/7 (ok... 22 / 7). And, it's driving me crazy! This > whole > > thing (all over my face) is getting worst at around 10 PM then > during > > day time. So you'd imagine what I do at 9h30 PM... I'm getting to > bed, > > to avoid it as much as possible. > > > > On the bad news dept, some of my teeth are hurting, and two of them, > > badly hurting me. I'll discuss this with my surgeon. One of the > worst > > two was already aching prior to the surgery. In fact, it began a > few > > days after the ortho installed his tortute stuff (a.k.a. braces), > but it > > got better with passing months (years). After the surgery, the > pain got > > awaken. The other teeth weren't causing any trouble before. > > > > I took a long walk today. The first long walk since the surgery. > I walked > > like two hours. At the end, I was tired, and hungry, but to my > surprise, > > I wasn't exhausted. Eventhough I carried packages (I went at the > > drugstore to get some baby food... well, a lot of baby food!). > After I > > ate, I didn't have this irresistible need to sleep like the last > time I took > > a walk. All this to say, my energy level are getting back to where > they > > were, I can feel it! Pleasant surprise!! Oh, and I did it without > the > > cane... !! Woohoo! Although, by the end, it felt like I could have > used > > it, but only the very last minutes (2 or 3). I'm very happy about > that! > > > > The skin in my face is getting oily, and my hands are dry as they've > > never been before. Can I transfer the oil from my face onto my > hands? > > Seriously, I keep putting hand lotion in my hand. What lasted a > few hours > > before the surgery now lasts... 30 minutes, or around. My face was > never > > oily before. Except for the nose area. And I am washing > everyday. But > > I'm not overdoing it (not more than once a day), because I know > that this > > can activate the oily skin. If anybody has a suggestion (or two), > that would > > be appreciated. I'm already using a special men soap (Clinique), > but it > > doesn't seem to help anymore (it did, before the surgery, got rid > of the > > oily skin on my nose). > > > > That's it for today. I will have another big walk on Friday, > there's a > > camera store opening a few blocks from here, and being free all day > > long, I wouldn't miss it! > > > > Take care everyone, and especially those going under tomorrow > > morning. We'll be thinking of you a lot! > > > > Ray > > http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html > > http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Ray, didn't you write a message saying " getting back to normal " after like Day 14? It's very encouraging to hear your positive attitude through this all. You seem to have had it a lot worse then me. Yet, your attitude always seems to be so positive. For that I respect you. One day at a time my friend....best of luck > Good evening everyone, > > I haven't uploaded pictures lately because my face isn't changing that > much anymore. I will, however, upload new pictures tomorrow. This > evening, I had to let go of my camera, my friend needed it. I hope it > comes back ok... (along with my friend as well!) > > I've lost another two pounds over the weekend. I don't understand it, > I'm eating more and more, and I'm not more active than before. I've > now lost a total of 12 pounds. Well, not to say I didn't have any to > loose before. Only it's strange. Also, I managed to gain two pounds > last week. > > I can now chew a little better then I did when I first got permission to > remove the rubber bands, last Thursday. Yesterday, I was able to eat > two (2) macaroni noodles, with having to swallow them unchewed.. I > also had another egg, this time it was also easier for me to chew and > swallow it. Slowly, but surely, I'm getting ready for my Happy Meal..! > > The numbness on my face is also getting smaller and smaller. I don't > know if it's the natural course of things, or the exercises I was asked > to do, but one way or the other, my cheeks are moving better now. > And they are better at the end of the day, compared to when I woke > up in the morning. I was also asked to force my mouth open. This, > sadly, I don't believe it's having any effect. I'm still at two fingers, > and I don't believe I've gained even a millimeter since I started these > exercises. > > The tingling sensation is now all over my face, and mouth. My tongue > on its left side has begun as well (it's numb everywhere but a small > thin area on the right and the tip). My cheek, my nose, my sinus, > everywhere it's tingling. The worst part is probably my chin, which is > doing this 24/7 (ok... 22 / 7). And, it's driving me crazy! This whole > thing (all over my face) is getting worst at around 10 PM then during > day time. So you'd imagine what I do at 9h30 PM... I'm getting to bed, > to avoid it as much as possible. > > On the bad news dept, some of my teeth are hurting, and two of them, > badly hurting me. I'll discuss this with my surgeon. One of the worst > two was already aching prior to the surgery. In fact, it began a few > days after the ortho installed his tortute stuff (a.k.a. braces), but it > got better with passing months (years). After the surgery, the pain got > awaken. The other teeth weren't causing any trouble before. > > I took a long walk today. The first long walk since the surgery. I walked > like two hours. At the end, I was tired, and hungry, but to my surprise, > I wasn't exhausted. Eventhough I carried packages (I went at the > drugstore to get some baby food... well, a lot of baby food!). After I > ate, I didn't have this irresistible need to sleep like the last time I took > a walk. All this to say, my energy level are getting back to where they > were, I can feel it! Pleasant surprise!! Oh, and I did it without the > cane... !! Woohoo! Although, by the end, it felt like I could have used > it, but only the very last minutes (2 or 3). I'm very happy about that! > > The skin in my face is getting oily, and my hands are dry as they've > never been before. Can I transfer the oil from my face onto my hands? > Seriously, I keep putting hand lotion in my hand. What lasted a few hours > before the surgery now lasts... 30 minutes, or around. My face was never > oily before. Except for the nose area. And I am washing everyday. But > I'm not overdoing it (not more than once a day), because I know that this > can activate the oily skin. If anybody has a suggestion (or two), that would > be appreciated. I'm already using a special men soap (Clinique), but it > doesn't seem to help anymore (it did, before the surgery, got rid of the > oily skin on my nose). > > That's it for today. I will have another big walk on Friday, there's a > camera store opening a few blocks from here, and being free all day > long, I wouldn't miss it! > > Take care everyone, and especially those going under tomorrow > morning. We'll be thinking of you a lot! > > Ray > http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html > http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 You two just scared the bejezus out of me! hahaha I too have been concerned about not laughing, coughing or yawning too much. I never even considered what will happen if I need to sneeze! My o my. > > > Ray-- > Sneezing. OH MY GOSH, I have been thinking about yawns or coughs > (can you yawn?), but not sneezes. Ahhhhhh. > > > > > > The body does amazing things. When you don't eat much, your body > > > shuts down and goes into " starvation " mode. It conserves > everything > > > you eat and slows down your metabolism. When you increase your > food > > > intake, eventually, your body will readjust itself because it > > > realizes you are not going to starve. > > > > > > Kim > > > > So I've discovered! > > > > And I've just discovered something else.. SNEEZING HURTS A LOT !!!! > > I just sneezed... and it hurts in my joints and in the muscles of > my cheeks. > > > > The first thing I did was to check if my jaws was still attached... > I can > > confirm this: the rubber bands saved the day :-) > > > > Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 > Ray, didn't you write a message saying " getting back to normal " > after like Day 14? > > It's very encouraging to hear your positive attitude through this > all. You seem to have had it a lot worse then me. Yet, your > attitude always seems to be so positive. For that I respect you. > > One day at a time my friend....best of luck If you mean like the swelling in my face, it was almost gone, until this morning... I have like a big cheeck on the right, and a more or less normal one of the left side. Scary, a little.. I believe, however, that this is kind of normal. I mean there will be good days, and bad ones, on the road to full recovery. I just uploaded pictures again this morning, that's when I noticed the swelling. Also, this morning, I woke up with pain in my right sinus (or the area around it). It's now gone, but it sure wasn't pleasant. Ray http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I has my lower jaw surgery 3 weeks ago today. I have tried to yawn constantly. I guess it is my body just trying to see if it can be done. Well in the past three weeks I have researched and found out that you can yawn and cough and sneeze if you make a fist and push up into the the bottom of your chin, the support allows you to get relief and still keep your jaw from feeling as if it is about to fly apart. Chris > >Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport >To: orthognathicsurgerysupport >Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: Day #19 post-op report >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:42:53 -0000 > >You two just scared the bejezus out of me! hahaha > >I too have been concerned about not laughing, coughing or yawning >too much. I never even considered what will happen if I need to >sneeze! My o my. > > > > > > Ray-- > > Sneezing. OH MY GOSH, I have been thinking about yawns or coughs > > (can you yawn?), but not sneezes. Ahhhhhh. > > > > > > > > > > The body does amazing things. When you don't eat much, your >body > > > > shuts down and goes into " starvation " mode. It conserves > > everything > > > > you eat and slows down your metabolism. When you increase >your > > food > > > > intake, eventually, your body will readjust itself because it > > > > realizes you are not going to starve. > > > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > So I've discovered! > > > > > > And I've just discovered something else.. SNEEZING HURTS A >LOT !!!! > > > I just sneezed... and it hurts in my joints and in the muscles >of > > my cheeks. > > > > > > The first thing I did was to check if my jaws was still >attached... > > I can > > > confirm this: the rubber bands saved the day :-) > > > > > > Ray > _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I was more referring to your 4 day stay in the hospital, having to wear rubber bands, teeth hurting and having difficulty opening your jaw. I didn't have to get lower jaw surgery. That's why I suspect I didn't need any bands (only wear 2 while I sleep), was only in the hospital a day (although some people with lower jaw surgery also get out quick) and I've got no problems opening my jaw. > > Ray, didn't you write a message saying " getting back to normal " > > after like Day 14? > > > > It's very encouraging to hear your positive attitude through this > > all. You seem to have had it a lot worse then me. Yet, your > > attitude always seems to be so positive. For that I respect you. > > > > One day at a time my friend....best of luck > > If you mean like the swelling in my face, it was almost gone, until this > morning... I have like a big cheeck on the right, and a more or less normal > one of the left side. Scary, a little.. > > I believe, however, that this is kind of normal. I mean there will be > good days, and bad ones, on the road to full recovery. > > I just uploaded pictures again this morning, that's when I noticed > the swelling. Also, this morning, I woke up with pain in my right sinus > (or the area around it). It's now gone, but it sure wasn't pleasant. > > Ray > http://www.pbase.com/carbone/surgery > http://homepage.mac.com/carbmac/blog/Ray_Blog.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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