BELINDA>Re: Another vision question.

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know how to describe my speech. I dont think you can say

slurred it just doesn't come out right. I had an EEG done and the

same morning b4 the test I had an extreme migrane all over my head.

It was the kind that light or sound or any kind of movement just

kills you. I had the EEG done with the migrane. That evening I

started having problems with my speech. Then it got some better for a

couple days and then it has gone down hills steadily after that. I am

not always understood and I don't always correct someone when they

didn't understand what I said. I just go along with whatever they

thought I said and leave it at that. I also have times I can't

remember even the simpliest of words. I will sit there and go into

another world until I can think. Sometimes I completely forget what I

am talking about when I am looking for the word to say. I wonder if I

will even know it one day if someone puts me in a nursing home. I

don't want that but if that is what happens then I will have to make

the best of it.

love and hugs,

Belinda

> > > Hi All.

> > >

> > > I've got another vision question.

> > >

> > > Bill, you don't have to worry about those siestas - seems they

> come

> > > on - on their own anymore. :-)

> > >

> > > Anyway, it was after one of those - when I woke up disoriented

> > (which

> > > was different in itself - because I usually know where I am -

> when

> > it

> > > is - and all that jazz)... I looked up at our white ceiling -

> and

> > > was quite surprised to find it filled with black spots. I

would

> > > estimate that 35 to 50% of it was covered with black spots.

This

> > > continued for a good 15 to 30 minutes. I've never had this

> before -

> >

> > > and just wondered if others have had it.

> > >

> > > Just checking.

> > >

> > > Vison has been freaking lately anyway. Neuro-ophtho has

> diagnosed

> > me

> > > with migraines and some sort of permanent visual distortion -

> > caused

> > > (he suspects) by a migraine-induced TIA. Anyway, difficult to

> > > explain the distortion. But basically, it's like looking

through

> > > multiple transparencies stacked atop each other - with a bit of

> > space

> > > inbetween - where the letters of each word are on differnt

> > > transparencies. Plus, I see things move which don't. Thought

I

> > was

> > > hallucinating - but doc said it was my brain trying to

interpret

> > what

> > > it was perceiving. I see a spot - like a screw head - and

since

> my

> > > distortion causes it to appear to move - my brain interprets

that

> > as

> > > a spider. Carpet rolls and moves - also certain patterns of

> > clothing

> > > really freak out my eyes. I basically see 3-D - even when the

> > > stimulus is only 2-D.

> > >

> > > Well, life is certainly interesting. At least I can't complain

> > about

> > > getting bored :-)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

Biting your tongue is a sign from God that you need speech therapy and exercises

to give you back control of your tongue.

Take care, Bill Werre

==================================================

>

>

> Date: 2002/08/21 Wed AM 02:09:23 CDT

> To: shydrager

> Subject: BELINDA>Re: Another vision question.

>

> HI BELINDA.

>

> YES. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH SPEECH.

>

> NEVER USED TO HAVE PROBLEMS - WITH SPEECH ANYWAY.

>

> YET NOW, OFTEN - I EITHER HESITATE - HAVING A HARD TIME COMING UP

> WITH THE WORDS, OR THEY JUST DON'T COME OUR RIGHT. AND I DON'T MEAN

> THAT I OFFEND OTHERS - THEY JUST FLAT COME OUT WRONG, SO I HAVE TO

> REPEAT MYSELF... FOR THAT MATTER - SOMETIMES THEY JUST DON'T COME

> OUT AT ALL. OF COURSE... I FIND MYSELF STUTTERING SOME NOW TOO.

> WEIRD STUFF. TRULY WEIRD.

>

> NO REAL SLURRED SPEECH. WELL, I TAKE THAT BACK... THERE HAVE BEEN

> TIMES OF THAT IN RECENT WEEKS/MONTHS AS WELL. OF COURSE - WANT A

> REAL FUNNY?

>

> MAYBE I'M JUST HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY MOUTH IN GENERAL? AS I BITE

> MY TONGUE ALMOST DAILY. ONE DAY - I BIT IT 5 TIMES!

>

> :-)

>

> PAUL

>

> BY THE WAY... I DON'T TEND TO TELL OTHERS WHEN I SEE STUFF MOVING

> EITHER - JUST MAKES THEM VALIDATE WHAT THEY ALREADY SUSPECTED - THAT

> I'M WEIRD.

>

> OH... DO YOU HAVE DARKENING OF VISION AS WELL? I GET WHAT I GUESS

> COULD BE TERMED TUNNEL VISION NOW. I ALSO GET FLASHES OF LIGHT ALL

> AROUND. DOC SAYS THAT'S INDICATIVE OF MIGRAINES.

>

> OK... I'LL REALLY END IT NOW - - - - PAUL

>

>

> > > Hi All.

> > >

> > > I've got another vision question.

> > >

> > > Bill, you don't have to worry about those siestas - seems they

> come

> > > on - on their own anymore. :-)

> > >

> > > Anyway, it was after one of those - when I woke up disoriented

> > (which

> > > was different in itself - because I usually know where I am -

> when

> > it

> > > is - and all that jazz)... I looked up at our white ceiling -

> and

> > > was quite surprised to find it filled with black spots. I would

> > > estimate that 35 to 50% of it was covered with black spots. This

> > > continued for a good 15 to 30 minutes. I've never had this

> before -

> >

> > > and just wondered if others have had it.

> > >

> > > Just checking.

> > >

> > > Vison has been freaking lately anyway. Neuro-ophtho has

> diagnosed

> > me

> > > with migraines and some sort of permanent visual distortion -

> > caused

> > > (he suspects) by a migraine-induced TIA. Anyway, difficult to

> > > explain the distortion. But basically, it's like looking through

> > > multiple transparencies stacked atop each other - with a bit of

> > space

> > > inbetween - where the letters of each word are on differnt

> > > transparencies. Plus, I see things move which don't. Thought I

> > was

> > > hallucinating - but doc said it was my brain trying to interpret

> > what

> > > it was perceiving. I see a spot - like a screw head - and since

> my

> > > distortion causes it to appear to move - my brain interprets that

> > as

> > > a spider. Carpet rolls and moves - also certain patterns of

> > clothing

> > > really freak out my eyes. I basically see 3-D - even when the

> > > stimulus is only 2-D.

> > >

> > > Well, life is certainly interesting. At least I can't complain

> > about

> > > getting bored :-)

> > >

> > >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

/Belinda,

I get the black dots on the ceiling when I first wake

up as well. I don't know how long they last because I

usually turn on to my side or get up. My main vision

problem is anything I look at that is more than 30

yards in front of me bounces as I walk, probably only

an inch or so perception wise up and down.

As far as speech goes, I am accidently funny on

occassions. For instance I might intend to say

something like coke and fries and I say foke and

cries. It is disconcerting and happens seemingly of

it's own volition.I also seem to be asked to repeat

myself more frequently, I don't know whether I am

speaking softer or a little less intelligbly.

Regards .

--- pulalupu pulalupu@...> wrote: > HI BELINDA.

>

> YES. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH SPEECH.

>

> NEVER USED TO HAVE PROBLEMS - WITH SPEECH ANYWAY.

>

> YET NOW, OFTEN - I EITHER HESITATE - HAVING A HARD

> TIME COMING UP

> WITH THE WORDS, OR THEY JUST DON'T COME OUR RIGHT.

> AND I DON'T MEAN

> THAT I OFFEND OTHERS - THEY JUST FLAT COME OUT

> WRONG, SO I HAVE TO

> REPEAT MYSELF... FOR THAT MATTER - SOMETIMES THEY

> JUST DON'T COME

> OUT AT ALL. OF COURSE... I FIND MYSELF STUTTERING

> SOME NOW TOO.

> WEIRD STUFF. TRULY WEIRD.

>

> NO REAL SLURRED SPEECH. WELL, I TAKE THAT BACK...

> THERE HAVE BEEN

> TIMES OF THAT IN RECENT WEEKS/MONTHS AS WELL. OF

> COURSE - WANT A

> REAL FUNNY?

>

> MAYBE I'M JUST HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY MOUTH IN

> GENERAL? AS I BITE

> MY TONGUE ALMOST DAILY. ONE DAY - I BIT IT 5 TIMES!

>

> :-)

>

> PAUL

>

> BY THE WAY... I DON'T TEND TO TELL OTHERS WHEN I

> SEE STUFF MOVING

> EITHER - JUST MAKES THEM VALIDATE WHAT THEY ALREADY

> SUSPECTED - THAT

> I'M WEIRD.

>

> OH... DO YOU HAVE DARKENING OF VISION AS WELL? I

> GET WHAT I GUESS

> COULD BE TERMED TUNNEL VISION NOW. I ALSO GET

> FLASHES OF LIGHT ALL

> AROUND. DOC SAYS THAT'S INDICATIVE OF MIGRAINES.

>

> OK... I'LL REALLY END IT NOW - - - - PAUL

>

>

> > > Hi All.

> > >

> > > I've got another vision question.

> > >

> > > Bill, you don't have to worry about those

> siestas - seems they

> come

> > > on - on their own anymore. :-)

> > >

> > > Anyway, it was after one of those - when I woke

> up disoriented

> > (which

> > > was different in itself - because I usually know

> where I am -

> when

> > it

> > > is - and all that jazz)... I looked up at our

> white ceiling -

> and

> > > was quite surprised to find it filled with black

> spots. I would

> > > estimate that 35 to 50% of it was covered with

> black spots. This

> > > continued for a good 15 to 30 minutes. I've

> never had this

> before -

> >

> > > and just wondered if others have had it.

> > >

> > > Just checking.

> > >

> > > Vison has been freaking lately anyway.

> Neuro-ophtho has

> diagnosed

> > me

> > > with migraines and some sort of permanent visual

> distortion -

> > caused

> > > (he suspects) by a migraine-induced TIA.

> Anyway, difficult to

> > > explain the distortion. But basically, it's

> like looking through

> > > multiple transparencies stacked atop each other

> - with a bit of

> > space

> > > inbetween - where the letters of each word are

> on differnt

> > > transparencies. Plus, I see things move which

> don't. Thought I

> > was

> > > hallucinating - but doc said it was my brain

> trying to interpret

> > what

> > > it was perceiving. I see a spot - like a screw

> head - and since

> my

> > > distortion causes it to appear to move - my

> brain interprets that

> > as

> > > a spider. Carpet rolls and moves - also certain

> patterns of

> > clothing

> > > really freak out my eyes. I basically see 3-D -

> even when the

> > > stimulus is only 2-D.

> > >

> > > Well, life is certainly interesting. At least I

> can't complain

> > about

> > > getting bored :-)

> > >

> > >

>

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

>

> shydrager-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ARE THE BLACK DOTS TINY AND STABLE OR DO THEY FLOAT?? MINE ARE PIN

POINT AND DISAPPEAR EVENTUALLY. I JUST GO ON AND THINK SOMETHING ELSE,

WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT AT TIMES. I HAVE SIMILAR VISUAL PERCEPTION

DIFFICULTIES. THE SPEECH AND LANGUAGE PROBLEM DRIVES ME WILD SOMETIMES.

I AM A RETIRED SPEECH LANGUAGE PATH.

AS FOR THE SPEECH VOLUME, I TOLD MY HUSBAND I SHOULD HAVE TRADEMARKED

THE SAYING ON THE CELL COMMERCIAL--- 'CAN U HEAR ME? 'CAN U HEAR ME

NOW?' SOMETIMES BY THE TIME I SAY THAT I HAVE TO TAKE A REST . I

SLUR THE ENDINGS AND AND JUST DROP OF THE ENDINGS OF MY PHRASES ALSO.

NANCY M.

Mike the Koala wrote:

>

> /Belinda,

>

> I get the black dots on the ceiling when I first wake

> up as well. I don't know how long they last because I

> usually turn on to my side or get up. My main vision

> problem is anything I look at that is more than 30

> yards in front of me bounces as I walk, probably only

> an inch or so perception wise up and down.

>

> As far as speech goes, I am accidently funny on

> occassions. For instance I might intend to say

> something like coke and fries and I say foke and

> cries. It is disconcerting and happens seemingly of

> it's own volition.I also seem to be asked to repeat

> myself more frequently, I don't know whether I am

> speaking softer or a little less intelligbly.

>

> Regards .

>

>

> --- pulalupu pulalupu@...> wrote: > HI BELINDA.

> >

> > YES. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH SPEECH.

> >

> > NEVER USED TO HAVE PROBLEMS - WITH SPEECH ANYWAY.

> >

> > YET NOW, OFTEN - I EITHER HESITATE - HAVING A HARD

> > TIME COMING UP

> > WITH THE WORDS, OR THEY JUST DON'T COME OUR RIGHT.

> > AND I DON'T MEAN

> > THAT I OFFEND OTHERS - THEY JUST FLAT COME OUT

> > WRONG, SO I HAVE TO

> > REPEAT MYSELF... FOR THAT MATTER - SOMETIMES THEY

> > JUST DON'T COME

> > OUT AT ALL. OF COURSE... I FIND MYSELF STUTTERING

> > SOME NOW TOO.

> > WEIRD STUFF. TRULY WEIRD.

> >

> > NO REAL SLURRED SPEECH. WELL, I TAKE THAT BACK...

> > THERE HAVE BEEN

> > TIMES OF THAT IN RECENT WEEKS/MONTHS AS WELL. OF

> > COURSE - WANT A

> > REAL FUNNY?

> >

> > MAYBE I'M JUST HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY MOUTH IN

> > GENERAL? AS I BITE

> > MY TONGUE ALMOST DAILY. ONE DAY - I BIT IT 5 TIMES!

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > PAUL

> >

> > BY THE WAY... I DON'T TEND TO TELL OTHERS WHEN I

> > SEE STUFF MOVING

> > EITHER - JUST MAKES THEM VALIDATE WHAT THEY ALREADY

> > SUSPECTED - THAT

> > I'M WEIRD.

> >

> > OH... DO YOU HAVE DARKENING OF VISION AS WELL? I

> > GET WHAT I GUESS

> > COULD BE TERMED TUNNEL VISION NOW. I ALSO GET

> > FLASHES OF LIGHT ALL

> > AROUND. DOC SAYS THAT'S INDICATIVE OF MIGRAINES.

> >

> > OK... I'LL REALLY END IT NOW - - - - PAUL

> >

> >

> > > > Hi All.

> > > >

> > > > I've got another vision question.

> > > >

> > > > Bill, you don't have to worry about those

> > siestas - seems they

> > come

> > > > on - on their own anymore. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, it was after one of those - when I woke

> > up disoriented

> > > (which

> > > > was different in itself - because I usually know

> > where I am -

> > when

> > > it

> > > > is - and all that jazz)... I looked up at our

> > white ceiling -

> > and

> > > > was quite surprised to find it filled with black

> > spots. I would

> > > > estimate that 35 to 50% of it was covered with

> > black spots. This

> > > > continued for a good 15 to 30 minutes. I've

> > never had this

> > before -

> > >

> > > > and just wondered if others have had it.

> > > >

> > > > Just checking.

> > > >

> > > > Vison has been freaking lately anyway.

> > Neuro-ophtho has

> > diagnosed

> > > me

> > > > with migraines and some sort of permanent visual

> > distortion -

> > > caused

> > > > (he suspects) by a migraine-induced TIA.

> > Anyway, difficult to

> > > > explain the distortion. But basically, it's

> > like looking through

> > > > multiple transparencies stacked atop each other

> > - with a bit of

> > > space

> > > > inbetween - where the letters of each word are

> > on differnt

> > > > transparencies. Plus, I see things move which

> > don't. Thought I

> > > was

> > > > hallucinating - but doc said it was my brain

> > trying to interpret

> > > what

> > > > it was perceiving. I see a spot - like a screw

> > head - and since

> > my

> > > > distortion causes it to appear to move - my

> > brain interprets that

> > > as

> > > > a spider. Carpet rolls and moves - also certain

> > patterns of

> > > clothing

> > > > really freak out my eyes. I basically see 3-D -

> > even when the

> > > > stimulus is only 2-D.

> > > >

> > > > Well, life is certainly interesting. At least I

> > can't complain

> > > about

> > > > getting bored :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> > shydrager-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

The black dots I see are stable. I think the other

sort of thing floating would be vitreous floaters

which are quite common.

Sometimes the speech thing makes me think I've got a

mouthful of marbles and can't get my tongue around

some words.

Regards

--- nancymullen ds401@...> wrote: > ARE THE

BLACK DOTS TINY AND STABLE OR DO THEY

> FLOAT?? MINE ARE PIN

> POINT AND DISAPPEAR EVENTUALLY. I JUST GO ON AND

> THINK SOMETHING ELSE,

> WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT AT TIMES. I HAVE SIMILAR

> VISUAL PERCEPTION

> DIFFICULTIES. THE SPEECH AND LANGUAGE PROBLEM DRIVES

> ME WILD SOMETIMES.

> I AM A RETIRED SPEECH LANGUAGE PATH.

> AS FOR THE SPEECH VOLUME, I TOLD MY HUSBAND I

> SHOULD HAVE TRADEMARKED

> THE SAYING ON THE CELL COMMERCIAL--- 'CAN U HEAR ME?

> 'CAN U HEAR ME

> NOW?' SOMETIMES BY THE TIME I SAY THAT I HAVE TO

> TAKE A REST . I

> SLUR THE ENDINGS AND AND JUST DROP OF THE ENDINGS OF

> MY PHRASES ALSO.

>

> NANCY M.

>

>

> Mike the Koala wrote:

> >

> > /Belinda,

> >

> > I get the black dots on the ceiling when I first

> wake

> > up as well. I don't know how long they last

> because I

> > usually turn on to my side or get up. My main

> vision

> > problem is anything I look at that is more than 30

> > yards in front of me bounces as I walk, probably

> only

> > an inch or so perception wise up and down.

> >

> > As far as speech goes, I am accidently funny on

> > occassions. For instance I might intend to say

> > something like coke and fries and I say foke and

> > cries. It is disconcerting and happens seemingly

> of

> > it's own volition.I also seem to be asked to

> repeat

> > myself more frequently, I don't know whether I am

> > speaking softer or a little less intelligbly.

> >

> > Regards .

> >

> >

> > --- pulalupu pulalupu@...> wrote: > HI

> BELINDA.

> > >

> > > YES. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH SPEECH.

> > >

> > > NEVER USED TO HAVE PROBLEMS - WITH SPEECH

> ANYWAY.

> > >

> > > YET NOW, OFTEN - I EITHER HESITATE - HAVING A

> HARD

> > > TIME COMING UP

> > > WITH THE WORDS, OR THEY JUST DON'T COME OUR

> RIGHT.

> > > AND I DON'T MEAN

> > > THAT I OFFEND OTHERS - THEY JUST FLAT COME OUT

> > > WRONG, SO I HAVE TO

> > > REPEAT MYSELF... FOR THAT MATTER - SOMETIMES

> THEY

> > > JUST DON'T COME

> > > OUT AT ALL. OF COURSE... I FIND MYSELF

> STUTTERING

> > > SOME NOW TOO.

> > > WEIRD STUFF. TRULY WEIRD.

> > >

> > > NO REAL SLURRED SPEECH. WELL, I TAKE THAT

> BACK...

> > > THERE HAVE BEEN

> > > TIMES OF THAT IN RECENT WEEKS/MONTHS AS WELL.

> OF

> > > COURSE - WANT A

> > > REAL FUNNY?

> > >

> > > MAYBE I'M JUST HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY MOUTH IN

> > > GENERAL? AS I BITE

> > > MY TONGUE ALMOST DAILY. ONE DAY - I BIT IT 5

> TIMES!

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > PAUL

> > >

> > > BY THE WAY... I DON'T TEND TO TELL OTHERS WHEN

> I

> > > SEE STUFF MOVING

> > > EITHER - JUST MAKES THEM VALIDATE WHAT THEY

> ALREADY

> > > SUSPECTED - THAT

> > > I'M WEIRD.

> > >

> > > OH... DO YOU HAVE DARKENING OF VISION AS WELL?

> I

> > > GET WHAT I GUESS

> > > COULD BE TERMED TUNNEL VISION NOW. I ALSO GET

> > > FLASHES OF LIGHT ALL

> > > AROUND. DOC SAYS THAT'S INDICATIVE OF

> MIGRAINES.

> > >

> > > OK... I'LL REALLY END IT NOW - - - - PAUL

> > >

> > >

> > > > > Hi All.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've got another vision question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill, you don't have to worry about those

> > > siestas - seems they

> > > come

> > > > > on - on their own anymore. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, it was after one of those - when I

> woke

> > > up disoriented

> > > > (which

> > > > > was different in itself - because I usually

> know

> > > where I am -

> > > when

> > > > it

> > > > > is - and all that jazz)... I looked up at

> our

> > > white ceiling -

> > > and

> > > > > was quite surprised to find it filled with

> black

> > > spots. I would

> > > > > estimate that 35 to 50% of it was covered

> with

> > > black spots. This

> > > > > continued for a good 15 to 30 minutes. I've

> > > never had this

> > > before -

> > > >

> > > > > and just wondered if others have had it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just checking.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vison has been freaking lately anyway.

> > > Neuro-ophtho has

> > > diagnosed

> > > > me

> > > > > with migraines and some sort of permanent

> visual

> > > distortion -

> > > > caused

> > > > > (he suspects) by a migraine-induced TIA.

> > > Anyway, difficult to

> > > > > explain the distortion. But basically, it's

> > > like looking through

> > > > > multiple transparencies stacked atop each

> other

> > > - with a bit of

>

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