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H i, my name is ph and I am Monik'a husband.. Monika was diagnosed with SD in April of 2000 , at agee 55. My wife was a pharmaceutical representative but inthe past two years has lost ability to walk , has very little movement in her arms or legs. We have tried, Sinetmet, amantidine, selegeline. Mariplex. but done have helped her. Her new neurologist is now trying Requip. Her voice has become a real problem, At first, her speech was slurred . She has been to a speech therapist who gave her some voice and breathing excercizes but her voice keeps getting weaker, and in a few weeks, I'm afraid it will be totally gone. How do I prepare for this? Is there any way for her to communicate after her voice is gone.? I can't imagine what it must be like for someone not to be able to communicate what their feeling or thinking or need. I've been up most nights now worrying about this , God bless us all, patients caretakers, families and friends who are living in this hell called MSA.

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ph,

Welcome to our group. Sorry you had to find us.

Monika seems to be progressing rapidly even for SDS/MSA. Have they checked

her thoroughly for infection as that often makes the symptoms rapidly increase.

When the infection is cured therapy can often help you get back some of

the lost movement. She will need to exercise the rest of her life. If she

doesn't movement will rapidly decline. Speech is movement of the tongue

and facial muscles. "Use it or lose it" is our motto here.

Yes after the voice is gone there are ways to communicate, stick with us

and we will give you hints.

Take care, Bill Werre

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H i, my name is ph and I am Monik'a husband.. Monika was diagnosed with

SD in April of 2000 , at agee 55. My wife was a pharmaceutical representative

but inthe past two years has lost ability to walk , has very little movement

in her arms or legs. We have tried, Sinetmet, amantidine, selegeline. Mariplex.

but done have helped her. Her new neurologist is now trying Requip. Her voice

has become a real problem, At first, her speech was slurred . She has been

to a speech therapist who gave her some voice and breathing excercizes but

her voice keeps getting weaker, and in a few weeks, I'm afraid it will be

totally gone. How do I prepare for this? Is there any way for her to communicate

after her voice is gone.? I can't imagine what it must be like for someone

not to be able to communicate what their feeling or thinking or need. I've

been up most nights now worrying about this , God bless us all, patients

caretakers, families and friends who are living in this hell called MSA.

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There are many different types of communication devices. If she is like my husband, she is probably 100% mentally alert and has lots to communicate. Bob usually has plenty of volume (when he remembers to take a deep breath), but cannot enunciate his words. His tongue and mouth just don't move as he wants them to. We have just been approved by our insurance company for a Dynavox communication device - it is a long process (approval) and still haven't seen it, but our hopes are up. It has a keyboard and a screen and a mechanical voice which repeats the key that is touched. Therefore, if a mistake is made (and Bob will make many due to lack of dexterity in fingers) the person can move to another letter. Only when the finger is removed from the board will the letter appear on the screen. For now, we use a white board with markers - we have to watch closely as he writes, but it does work.

Best of luck to you - this, to me, with all of the other functional problems, is one of the very worst - not being able to communicate. We also use right hand/left hand for "yes" or "no." You can also use pictures.

Elaine Grimmesey

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Hi ph, my name is Annette and my husband has not been able

to speak for over four years. I can understand your anxiety over

Monika's loss of speech and the ability to communicate. That was the

hardest thing for me to accept about MSA. At first I felt that I

wouldn't have my husband when we couldn't talk to each other, but we

still communicate pretty well. You didn't say how long you've been

married but we have been married almost 38 years and I know him well

enough to " read him " pretty well. He can still indicate " yes and no "

by squeezing the index finger and thumb of his right hand.....so most

of the time it's a matter of my asking him " the right

questions " ...based on my knowledge of his likely wants, needs

feelings etc. when it comes to questions where a definite answer is

required. Like " what is hurting you " ...I start with naming most

likely answers ....bladder, leg, hand etc....I joke about naming

his " 2000 body parts " ....if that doesn't work we start with the

alphabet and ask him to squeeze when I say the correct letter. This

is very time consumming because his response is very slow and if I'm

not careful he is trying to squeese on L when I've gone on to

M...etc......everything must be confirmed with a Yes or No.

I've written all of this to encourge you that where there is a will

there usually is a way.

I agree with Bill, there are several things that can be used to

communicate as our love ones progress. We started with a microphone

and speaker, softwear on the computer, a very expensive portable

keyboard that would speak and also could be programed to remember

phrases with just a touch of one letter etc....was wonderful as long

as he could move his arm at least one foot in each direction (lasted

about a year) a communication board with pictures was made by a

friend when even touching keys became too difficult but by that time

his range of motion was not enough to touch what he wanted. We

started very early communicating with those two fingers in the shower

etc where no device was practical. I've had to fight

contractures ...and guess what?...eight fingers are curled now but we

still have those two fingers.....sometimes I have him confirm with

closing his eye lids but that is getting risky because he sometimes

can not get them back open after closing them. It's not easy

ph ,by any means ,but I've found that love overcomes even this

obsticle! I've also learned to " read " his face even through

that " parkinson's mask " and his eyes can't hide much from me after

all these years.

It's impossible to fully understand what it's like for our loved ones

because we are not there but I feel like I can understand enough to

help me help him communicate. PS....there is alot to wanting to

communicate. I must add that when is " at his best " , he can

move his head ever so slightly, but our wonderful nurse and others

that are willing to make the effort can see that form of

communication and it makes me almost jump for joy ( and that's saying

alot of a 57 year old lady that's over 100 pounds over

weight!....remember to keep your sense of humor. be yourself and

communicate with them honestly ;and assume they are the same person

and responds in the same way they always have. My husband can't tell

me to " mind my own business " but when I start telling him things that

I'm thinking, I can almost hear him telling me what he's told me so

many times before.....I will then ask him if that's what he would

like to tell me and when the answer is " yes " ...we both find a smile

coming from somewhere. God bless you both and even though I don't

read very many post now I'm almost always available to chat and would

love to correspond by eamil...feel free to contact me anytime you

think I might be of help..

> H i, my name is ph and I am Monik'a husband.. Monika was

diagnosed with

> SD in April of 2000 , at agee 55. My wife was a pharmaceutical

representative

> but inthe past two years has lost ability to walk , has very

little

> movement in her arms or legs. We have tried, Sinetmet, amantidine,

> selegeline. Mariplex. but done have helped her. Her new neurologist

is now

> trying Requip. Her voice has become a real problem, At first, her

speech was

> slurred . She has been to a speech therapist who gave her some

voice and

> breathing excercizes but her voice keeps getting weaker, and in a

few weeks,

> I'm afraid it will be totally gone. How do I prepare for this? Is

there any

> way for her to communicate after her voice is gone.? I can't

imagine what it

> must be like for someone not to be able to communicate what their

feeling or

> thinking or need. I've been up most nights now worrying about

this , God

> bless us all, patients caretakers, families and friends who are

living in

> this hell called MSA.

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  • 4 weeks later...

THanks Annette for taking the time to write me. Dealing with this seems unsurmountable at times.. Only love for our spouse can ghet us through it. You have been very helpful. Monika and I thank you once again.

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