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I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent me an

article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly similar.

I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year started

having dizzy and fainting spells.

What has been happening:

1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

(spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I lay on

my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you would

not believe and have all my life.

3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes takes

several minutes for me to come around and be responsive. Sometimes

my legs go weak and I fall.

4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts for

a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only when

I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

sitting.

5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me not

to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six times

a night.

8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is good,

on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason. I

don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago and

it is not related to any specific time of the month.

10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to feel

hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had mycoplasmic

pneumonia for six months last year.

My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have apnea

and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

physically moved to make him come around.

I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

Parkinson's has me worried.

I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

diagnosis.

I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test my

cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

month.

What questions should I ask him?

What tests should I request?

Please help me!!!!!

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Donna,

Hi and welcome to the list. We (most of us, anyway) are not doctors, but

patients and caregivers. Collectively we do have a great deal of knowledge

about MSA, but we can't make a diagnosis. Having said that, I would suggest

that you take the list of symptoms you have here to your doctor. It does

sound like you may have some form of dysautonomia (problems with the

autonomic nervous system) so your endocrinologist may refer you to an

autonomic specialist. There are some types of autonomic problems associated

with diabetes, so your endocrinologist may be familiar with them. Ask him

if he feels you should have autonomic testing. Tell him what you are

concerned about and let him respond. Be careful about self diagnosing.

Please do let us know how you make out.

Carol & Rob

Lexington, MA

What is wrong with me?

> I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent me an

> article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly similar.

>

> I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year started

> having dizzy and fainting spells.

>

> What has been happening:

>

> 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

> (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

> When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I lay on

> my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you would

> not believe and have all my life.

> 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

> lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes takes

> several minutes for me to come around and be responsive. Sometimes

> my legs go weak and I fall.

> 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

> sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts for

> a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only when

> I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

> sitting.

> 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

> 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me not

> to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six times

> a night.

> 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is good,

> on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

> 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason. I

> don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago and

> it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

> head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

> 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

> voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to feel

> hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had mycoplasmic

> pneumonia for six months last year.

>

> My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have apnea

> and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

> apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

> physically moved to make him come around.

>

> I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

> Parkinson's has me worried.

>

> I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

> and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> diagnosis.

>

> I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test my

> cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

> month.

>

> What questions should I ask him?

> What tests should I request?

>

> Please help me!!!!!

>

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

>

> shydrager-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you. I have no desire to self-diagnose. I do not have the

background. It is just when my Mom sent me this article, I got

really concerned.

I knew you all had been through this and that is why I was asking for

advice. If it sounds like something you have dealt with, then I want

to know. At least with some knowledge I can ask the right

questions. I would rather get the answers than wonder and worry.

My endocronologist is just delving into this. My neurologist is

ready to write it all off as migraine (and I am about ready to write

him off, too). I have had migraines all my life and this is nothing

like any migraine I have ever had.

I will ask about the autonomic testing. Is that the same as a tilt

table test? I had read about that in the attempt to diagnose

orthostatic hypotension. (The endocronologist gave me Florinef and I

was looking into what it does.)

Thanks again for the guidance.

Donna

> Donna,

>

> Hi and welcome to the list. We (most of us, anyway) are not

doctors, but

> patients and caregivers. Collectively we do have a great deal of

knowledge

> about MSA, but we can't make a diagnosis. Having said that, I

would suggest

> that you take the list of symptoms you have here to your doctor.

It does

> sound like you may have some form of dysautonomia (problems with the

> autonomic nervous system) so your endocrinologist may refer you to

an

> autonomic specialist. There are some types of autonomic problems

associated

> with diabetes, so your endocrinologist may be familiar with them.

Ask him

> if he feels you should have autonomic testing. Tell him what you

are

> concerned about and let him respond. Be careful about self

diagnosing.

>

> Please do let us know how you make out.

>

> Carol & Rob

> Lexington, MA

>

> What is wrong with me?

>

>

> > I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent

me an

> > article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly

similar.

> >

> > I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year

started

> > having dizzy and fainting spells.

> >

> > What has been happening:

> >

> > 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

> > (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

> > When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> > 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I

lay on

> > my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you

would

> > not believe and have all my life.

> > 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

> > lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes

takes

> > several minutes for me to come around and be responsive.

Sometimes

> > my legs go weak and I fall.

> > 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

> > sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts

for

> > a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only

when

> > I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

> > sitting.

> > 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

> > 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me

not

> > to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> > 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six

times

> > a night.

> > 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is

good,

> > on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

> > 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason.

I

> > don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago

and

> > it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> > 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

> > head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

> > 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

> > voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to

feel

> > hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> > 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> > swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> > 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had

mycoplasmic

> > pneumonia for six months last year.

> >

> > My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have

apnea

> > and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> > grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

> > apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

> > physically moved to make him come around.

> >

> > I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

> > Parkinson's has me worried.

> >

> > I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

> > and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> > diagnosis.

> >

> > I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test

my

> > cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

> > month.

> >

> > What questions should I ask him?

> > What tests should I request?

> >

> > Please help me!!!!!

> >

> >

> > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Donna,

I agree with Carol Langer who is very wise, but I must remind you that many

of the symptoms you describe may also be symptoms of diabetes.

I am a Type II diabetic which began in 1994. The doctors think the diabetes

may have been triggered from too much cortisone used in attempts to cure 10

years of chronic sinus infections and " drive you crazy " caoughs. Finally,

after 2 different surgeries on the sinus cavities they discovered a chronic

staff infection in some impacted sinuses was causing the problem. Even so,

I am now diabetic. My weight does not help the situation either.

Back to your symptoms. I went to a week training class at a hospital in

Nashville when I was first diagnosed. Some of the information gained there

tells me that many of your symptoms sound like diabetes. I have had a few

of them myself.

You may need to find a neww endocrinologist who is willing to assist you in

education of the diabetes problem.

Best wishes to you,

Mailyn in TN

>

> Reply-To: shydrager

> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:00:24 -0000

> To: shydrager

> Subject: What is wrong with me?

>

> I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent me an

> article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly similar.

>

> I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year started

> having dizzy and fainting spells.

>

> What has been happening:

>

> 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

> (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

> When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I lay on

> my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you would

> not believe and have all my life.

> 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

> lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes takes

> several minutes for me to come around and be responsive. Sometimes

> my legs go weak and I fall.

> 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

> sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts for

> a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only when

> I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

> sitting.

> 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

> 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me not

> to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six times

> a night.

> 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is good,

> on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

> 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason. I

> don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago and

> it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

> head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

> 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

> voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to feel

> hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had mycoplasmic

> pneumonia for six months last year.

>

> My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have apnea

> and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

> apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

> physically moved to make him come around.

>

> I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

> Parkinson's has me worried.

>

> I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

> and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> diagnosis.

>

> I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test my

> cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

> month.

>

> What questions should I ask him?

> What tests should I request?

>

> Please help me!!!!!

>

>

> If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

>

> shydrager-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Donna,

Don't be too quick to accept a diagnoses when you get one. There are many

things it could be including Chiari which is a malformation of the spine. It

can form a cyst on the spinal cord and cause symptoms similar to what you are

experiencing. There is an operation which can help many people with this

problem, but it is risky.

You should also ask about the possibility of some sort of infection. People

with brain disorders are prone to infection. Infection can make any brain

malfunction much worse and aggravate symptoms.

Take care, Bill Werre

=====================

>

>

> Date: 2002/09/01 Sun PM 09:37:19 CDT

> To: shydrager

> Subject: Re: What is wrong with me?

>

> Thank you. I have no desire to self-diagnose. I do not have the

> background. It is just when my Mom sent me this article, I got

> really concerned.

>

> I knew you all had been through this and that is why I was asking for

> advice. If it sounds like something you have dealt with, then I want

> to know. At least with some knowledge I can ask the right

> questions. I would rather get the answers than wonder and worry.

>

> My endocronologist is just delving into this. My neurologist is

> ready to write it all off as migraine (and I am about ready to write

> him off, too). I have had migraines all my life and this is nothing

> like any migraine I have ever had.

>

> I will ask about the autonomic testing. Is that the same as a tilt

> table test? I had read about that in the attempt to diagnose

> orthostatic hypotension. (The endocronologist gave me Florinef and I

> was looking into what it does.)

>

> Thanks again for the guidance.

>

> Donna

>

>

> > Donna,

> >

> > Hi and welcome to the list. We (most of us, anyway) are not

> doctors, but

> > patients and caregivers. Collectively we do have a great deal of

> knowledge

> > about MSA, but we can't make a diagnosis. Having said that, I

> would suggest

> > that you take the list of symptoms you have here to your doctor.

> It does

> > sound like you may have some form of dysautonomia (problems with the

> > autonomic nervous system) so your endocrinologist may refer you to

> an

> > autonomic specialist. There are some types of autonomic problems

> associated

> > with diabetes, so your endocrinologist may be familiar with them.

> Ask him

> > if he feels you should have autonomic testing. Tell him what you

> are

> > concerned about and let him respond. Be careful about self

> diagnosing.

> >

> > Please do let us know how you make out.

> >

> > Carol & Rob

> > Lexington, MA

> >

> > What is wrong with me?

> >

> >

> > > I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent

> me an

> > > article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly

> similar.

> > >

> > > I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year

> started

> > > having dizzy and fainting spells.

> > >

> > > What has been happening:

> > >

> > > 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

> > > (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

> > > When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> > > 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I

> lay on

> > > my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you

> would

> > > not believe and have all my life.

> > > 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

> > > lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes

> takes

> > > several minutes for me to come around and be responsive.

> Sometimes

> > > my legs go weak and I fall.

> > > 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

> > > sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts

> for

> > > a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only

> when

> > > I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

> > > sitting.

> > > 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

> > > 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me

> not

> > > to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> > > 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six

> times

> > > a night.

> > > 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is

> good,

> > > on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

> > > 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason.

> I

> > > don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago

> and

> > > it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> > > 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

> > > head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

> > > 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

> > > voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to

> feel

> > > hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> > > 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> > > swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> > > 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had

> mycoplasmic

> > > pneumonia for six months last year.

> > >

> > > My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have

> apnea

> > > and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> > > grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

> > > apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

> > > physically moved to make him come around.

> > >

> > > I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

> > > Parkinson's has me worried.

> > >

> > > I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

> > > and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> > > diagnosis.

> > >

> > > I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test

> my

> > > cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

> > > month.

> > >

> > > What questions should I ask him?

> > > What tests should I request?

> > >

> > > Please help me!!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > >

> > > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Donna,

I just re-read my post to you and it sounded a little harsh -- please excuse

me if it came across that way to you. I was trying to reassure you that

although you may have some aspects of MSA there are other things that might

be causing your problems (such as your diabetes) and I don't want you to be

too worried.

Autonomic testing usually includes a tilt table test. If you go to the main

yahoo site and look under " doctors " in the " 'links " section there is a

folder about tests for autonomic dysfunction --

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shydrager/links/Doctors_who_treat_MS_000965832

140/Disorders_Similar_to_000966460046/Diagnostic_Tests_000989757631/

There is a complete explanation of what autonomic tests include. Not all

tests will be conducted by all doctors, so just use it for educating

yourself.

Florinef is used by many patients with orthostatic hypotension to raise

blood pressure. It acts by increasing the blood volume, which it does by

pulling more water into the blood stream. To get the maximum impact from

florinef you must drink lots of water ( 2 liters a day) and either use salt

liberally, drink bouillon or take buffered salt tablets.

Please ask more questions as they come up -- and I hope you DON'T have MSA!

Carol & Rob

Lexington, MA

What is wrong with me?

> >

> >

> > > I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother sent

> me an

> > > article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly

> similar.

> > >

> > > I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year

> started

> > > having dizzy and fainting spells.

> > >

> > > What has been happening:

> > >

> > > 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have tingling

> > > (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a little.

> > > When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> > > 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If I

> lay on

> > > my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you

> would

> > > not believe and have all my life.

> > > 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy and

> > > lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes

> takes

> > > several minutes for me to come around and be responsive.

> Sometimes

> > > my legs go weak and I fall.

> > > 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong it

> > > sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only lasts

> for

> > > a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens only

> when

> > > I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when I am

> > > sitting.

> > > 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay down.

> > > 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has told me

> not

> > > to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> > > 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to six

> times

> > > a night.

> > > 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it is

> good,

> > > on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't attached.

> > > 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no reason.

> I

> > > don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years ago

> and

> > > it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> > > 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold up my

> > > head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my desk.

> > > 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation, my

> > > voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin to

> feel

> > > hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> > > 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> > > swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> > > 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had

> mycoplasmic

> > > pneumonia for six months last year.

> > >

> > > My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both have

> apnea

> > > and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> > > grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some form of

> > > apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had to be

> > > physically moved to make him come around.

> > >

> > > I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's closeness to

> > > Parkinson's has me worried.

> > >

> > > I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter Monitor,

> > > and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> > > diagnosis.

> > >

> > > I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to test

> my

> > > cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back in a

> > > month.

> > >

> > > What questions should I ask him?

> > > What tests should I request?

> > >

> > > Please help me!!!!!

> > >

> > >

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> > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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Bill -- Have you run across any studies re correlation between spine

malformations/lesions and MSA-type symptoms? Or, for that matter, any

reports of spinal abnormalities as resulting from MSA?

Tony

-- In shydrager@y..., wrote:

>

> Donna,

>

> Don't be too quick to accept a diagnoses when you get one. There

are many things it could be including Chiari which is a malformation

of the spine. It can form a cyst on the spinal cord and cause

symptoms similar to what you are experiencing. There is an operation

which can help many people with this problem, but it is risky.

>

> You should also ask about the possibility of some sort of

infection. People with brain disorders are prone to infection.

Infection can make any brain malfunction much worse and aggravate

symptoms.

>

> Take care, Bill Werre

>

> =====================

> >

> > From: " donnamixon "

> > Date: 2002/09/01 Sun PM 09:37:19 CDT

> > To: shydrager@y...

> > Subject: Re: What is wrong with me?

> >

> > Thank you. I have no desire to self-diagnose. I do not have the

> > background. It is just when my Mom sent me this article, I got

> > really concerned.

> >

> > I knew you all had been through this and that is why I was asking

for

> > advice. If it sounds like something you have dealt with, then I

want

> > to know. At least with some knowledge I can ask the right

> > questions. I would rather get the answers than wonder and worry.

> >

> > My endocronologist is just delving into this. My neurologist is

> > ready to write it all off as migraine (and I am about ready to

write

> > him off, too). I have had migraines all my life and this is

nothing

> > like any migraine I have ever had.

> >

> > I will ask about the autonomic testing. Is that the same as a

tilt

> > table test? I had read about that in the attempt to diagnose

> > orthostatic hypotension. (The endocronologist gave me Florinef

and I

> > was looking into what it does.)

> >

> > Thanks again for the guidance.

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> > > Donna,

> > >

> > > Hi and welcome to the list. We (most of us, anyway) are not

> > doctors, but

> > > patients and caregivers. Collectively we do have a great deal

of

> > knowledge

> > > about MSA, but we can't make a diagnosis. Having said that, I

> > would suggest

> > > that you take the list of symptoms you have here to your

doctor.

> > It does

> > > sound like you may have some form of dysautonomia (problems

with the

> > > autonomic nervous system) so your endocrinologist may refer you

to

> > an

> > > autonomic specialist. There are some types of autonomic

problems

> > associated

> > > with diabetes, so your endocrinologist may be familiar with

them.

> > Ask him

> > > if he feels you should have autonomic testing. Tell him what

you

> > are

> > > concerned about and let him respond. Be careful about self

> > diagnosing.

> > >

> > > Please do let us know how you make out.

> > >

> > > Carol & Rob

> > > Lexington, MA

> > >

> > > What is wrong with me?

> > >

> > >

> > > > I have not yet been diagnosed with anything, but my mother

sent

> > me an

> > > > article about MSA because my symptoms seem very disturbingly

> > similar.

> > > >

> > > > I am 36, female, diabetic (2 years), and in May of this year

> > started

> > > > having dizzy and fainting spells.

> > > >

> > > > What has been happening:

> > > >

> > > > 1) The right side of my face droops sometimes and I have

tingling

> > > > (spidery) sensations when it does. Sometimes is swells a

little.

> > > > When it is real bad, I cannot see out of my right eye.

> > > > 2) If I lay on my left side my arm and leg go to sleep. If

I

> > lay on

> > > > my right side I don't have as much trouble. I snore like you

> > would

> > > > not believe and have all my life.

> > > > 3) I can be doing fine and all of the sudden I get so dizzy

and

> > > > lightheaded that I fall or faint. When I faint, it sometimes

> > takes

> > > > several minutes for me to come around and be responsive.

> > Sometimes

> > > > my legs go weak and I fall.

> > > > 4) Sometimes I get a sharp pain in my head that is so strong

it

> > > > sends me reeling - my legs collapse underneath me. It only

lasts

> > for

> > > > a minute or two, but is overpowering. Usually this happens

only

> > when

> > > > I am standing, but I have had overwhelming dizzy spells when

I am

> > > > sitting.

> > > > 5) I get weak after very little exertion and have to lay

down.

> > > > 6) After working a full day and driving home (no one has

told me

> > not

> > > > to drive yet) I am so exhausted, I can barely get to bed.

> > > > 7) I have to get up to go to the bathroom at least five to

six

> > times

> > > > a night.

> > > > 8) My memory has deteriorated significantly. Some days it

is

> > good,

> > > > on other days, though I would lose my head if it weren't

attached.

> > > > 9) I cry at the least little thing, even when I have no

reason.

> > I

> > > > don't believe it is PMS because I had a hysterectomy 10 years

ago

> > and

> > > > it is not related to any specific time of the month.

> > > > 10) My neck is so painful sometimes I feel like I can't hold

up my

> > > > head and I have to rest it on my hand or put my head on my

desk.

> > > > 11) If I am reading something aloud or having a conversation,

my

> > > > voice will hold out for maybe 5 - 10 minutes before I begin

to

> > feel

> > > > hoarse, and my throat hurts like I have strained my voice.

> > > > 12) I choke at least once a meal because I have difficulty

> > > > swallowing, especially if I am not feeling well.

> > > > 13) I get pneumonia very easily. I have asthma and had

> > mycoplasmic

> > > > pneumonia for six months last year.

> > > >

> > > > My mother and her sister both have Parkinson's. They both

have

> > apnea

> > > > and use CPAP (as do three of my four brothers). My maternal

> > > > grandmother had it, too. My maternal grandfather had some

form of

> > > > apnea where he would make a strange high pitch noise and had

to be

> > > > physically moved to make him come around.

> > > >

> > > > I understand MSA is not considered genetic, but it's

closeness to

> > > > Parkinson's has me worried.

> > > >

> > > > I have had four MRIs, two MRAs, three CTs, a 24-hr Holter

Monitor,

> > > > and one hospital stay with continuous telemetry and still no

> > > > diagnosis.

> > > >

> > > > I just went to see an endocronologist and he gave me ACTH to

test

> > my

> > > > cortisol levels. They were fine and he wants me to come back

in a

> > > > month.

> > > >

> > > > What questions should I ask him?

> > > > What tests should I request?

> > > >

> > > > Please help me!!!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > > >

> > > > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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