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Hi Kathleen,

I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel like I

can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to Fibromyalgia

for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears before they flare. My

sed rate has always been normal.

Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

Hugs,

Sandy

Hi all,

I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

Kathleen

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Hi Kathleen,

I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel like I

can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to Fibromyalgia

for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears before they flare. My

sed rate has always been normal.

Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

Hugs,

Sandy

Hi all,

I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

Kathleen

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Sandy,

Thanks for the reply. My ENT said that RP may be the culprit and he will

look for a good rheumatologist who is knowledgable about it. I was happy to

be taken seriously, but nervous about what RP might mean for me in the

future... What kind of problems do you have now?

I am a stay at home homeschooling mom of a beautiful 9 year old boy. I love

dogs -- my corgi especially -- , gardening, and am active in my son's cub

scout pack and my church. I am glad that a group exists for this rare

disease. I went to the library today to try and learn more and couldn't

find a thing... I am looking forward to getting to know you all.

Kathleen

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> Hi Kathleen,

>

> I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel

like I can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to

Fibromyalgia for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears

before they flare. My sed rate has always been normal.

> Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

>

> Hugs,

> Sandy

> Hi all,

>

> I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

> had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

> usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

> I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

> head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

> pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

> also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

> ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

> then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

> had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

> sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

> were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

> had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

> no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

> anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

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Sandy,

Thanks for the reply. My ENT said that RP may be the culprit and he will

look for a good rheumatologist who is knowledgable about it. I was happy to

be taken seriously, but nervous about what RP might mean for me in the

future... What kind of problems do you have now?

I am a stay at home homeschooling mom of a beautiful 9 year old boy. I love

dogs -- my corgi especially -- , gardening, and am active in my son's cub

scout pack and my church. I am glad that a group exists for this rare

disease. I went to the library today to try and learn more and couldn't

find a thing... I am looking forward to getting to know you all.

Kathleen

Re: Symptoms

> Hi Kathleen,

>

> I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel

like I can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to

Fibromyalgia for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears

before they flare. My sed rate has always been normal.

> Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

>

> Hugs,

> Sandy

> Hi all,

>

> I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

> had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

> usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

> I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

> head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

> pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

> also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

> ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

> then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

> had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

> sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

> were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

> had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

> no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

> anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

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Kathleen,

I did the same thing when I was Dx., went to the library and found no info at

all. It is reassuring to at least have a diagnosis.

Hope you find a good Rheumy who has some experience with RP.

My Rp. affects my nose, ears ribs, joints and throat. I've gone through trials

of several meds and am now on Cytoxan which seems to be helping.

Sandy

Sandy,

Thanks for the reply. My ENT said that RP may be the culprit and he will

look for a good rheumatologist who is knowledgable about it. I was happy to

be taken seriously, but nervous about what RP might mean for me in the

future... What kind of problems do you have now?

I am a stay at home homeschooling mom of a beautiful 9 year old boy. I love

dogs -- my corgi especially -- , gardening, and am active in my son's cub

scout pack and my church. I am glad that a group exists for this rare

disease. I went to the library today to try and learn more and couldn't

find a thing... I am looking forward to getting to know you all.

Kathleen

Re: Symptoms

> Hi Kathleen,

>

> I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel

like I can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to

Fibromyalgia for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears

before they flare. My sed rate has always been normal.

> Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

>

> Hugs,

> Sandy

> Hi all,

>

> I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

> had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

> usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

> I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

> head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

> pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

> also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

> ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

> then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

> had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

> sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

> were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

> had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

> no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

> anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

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Kathleen,

I did the same thing when I was Dx., went to the library and found no info at

all. It is reassuring to at least have a diagnosis.

Hope you find a good Rheumy who has some experience with RP.

My Rp. affects my nose, ears ribs, joints and throat. I've gone through trials

of several meds and am now on Cytoxan which seems to be helping.

Sandy

Sandy,

Thanks for the reply. My ENT said that RP may be the culprit and he will

look for a good rheumatologist who is knowledgable about it. I was happy to

be taken seriously, but nervous about what RP might mean for me in the

future... What kind of problems do you have now?

I am a stay at home homeschooling mom of a beautiful 9 year old boy. I love

dogs -- my corgi especially -- , gardening, and am active in my son's cub

scout pack and my church. I am glad that a group exists for this rare

disease. I went to the library today to try and learn more and couldn't

find a thing... I am looking forward to getting to know you all.

Kathleen

Re: Symptoms

> Hi Kathleen,

>

> I get the pain in my throat and if I turn my head a certain way I feel

like I can't breath. Also have joint pain that my doctors attributed to

Fibromyalgia for ten years. I sometimes get an itchy feeling in my ears

before they flare. My sed rate has always been normal.

> Are you seeing a Rheumotologist?

>

> Hugs,

> Sandy

> Hi all,

>

> I haven't received a dx yet, but believe that I do have RP. I have

> had terrible pain in my throat that is deep and aching. Not like the

> usual sore throat from a virus or something. Sometimes it is so bad

> I just want to cry. I can't lay on my stomach because it makes my

> head turn and I feel like I am going to choke and it makes my throat

> pain much worse. I have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

> also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. Now my

> ears have begun to hurt. The insides itch terribly sometimes and

> then the pain sets in. I was told that it is allergy... Has anyone

> had similar experiences? Have had all the usual workups-- no ANA,

> sed rate usually normal, no reflux (although my esophagus and trachea

> were bright red on laryngoscope...) Was told by the GI doctor that I

> had irritable bowel of the throat! Was told by the ENT that he had

> no clue. Was told by my previous GP that I was suffering from

> anxiety... Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

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Kathleen, I also looked in the library and every bookstore and found

nothing.. at the time I had no computer... This group has been a God send.

I really admire you for doing home schooling... It takes a special person to

do it.

I have 3 grown daughters and don't know if I could have done it. LOL

My sister in law has a corgi and it is absolutely wonderful.. What wonderful

dogs they are..

I haven't had a flare in quite a while, but i mostly affects my ribs and

ears. Sometimes my nose.. I find that I am hoarse more now than I was

before.. I will see an ENT in Dec. so will find something out then. The Rp

did affect my heart valves, but I think because of the delayed dx that was

the problem.. Otherwise I'm doing pretty well. Don't let some of the stuff

you read scare you.. Boy it sure did me at first.. You will see that most of

us are doing well. RP is controlable....remember that.. AND there have been

some in the group that have been in remission.

That is the goal for the RP Foundation..... to make the public and medical

professionals aware of RP and someday find a cure.

hugs

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In a message dated 10/29/01 2:33:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, kath1@...

writes:

<< have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. >>

Kathleen, I have had the same symptoms for years... I'm glad that you found

the group. You will find out sooo much and will be able to share with your

doctors... (If they are one of the drs. that are willing to read what you

bring in, I hope so)

I didn't have my first ear flare until 1998 and wasnt' dx til 1999. I have

been on prednisone ever since that time. They started me on the medral

pack..and then I went to 80mg of pred. I added vioxx to that and couldn't

get the pred down below 30mg so started on methotrexate. Was on that for a

year and still couldn't get my pred down.. so switched to Imuran and it made

me TOO sick. Right now I am only on Biaxin and pred and have my pred down to

8mg... I go to see a new rheumy at Stanford on the 19th so will see what he

has to say.

Didn't mean to ramble on...Again welcome to the group and keep asking those

questions.. We all learn by them.

hugs

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Kathleen, I also looked in the library and every bookstore and found

nothing.. at the time I had no computer... This group has been a God send.

I really admire you for doing home schooling... It takes a special person to

do it.

I have 3 grown daughters and don't know if I could have done it. LOL

My sister in law has a corgi and it is absolutely wonderful.. What wonderful

dogs they are..

I haven't had a flare in quite a while, but i mostly affects my ribs and

ears. Sometimes my nose.. I find that I am hoarse more now than I was

before.. I will see an ENT in Dec. so will find something out then. The Rp

did affect my heart valves, but I think because of the delayed dx that was

the problem.. Otherwise I'm doing pretty well. Don't let some of the stuff

you read scare you.. Boy it sure did me at first.. You will see that most of

us are doing well. RP is controlable....remember that.. AND there have been

some in the group that have been in remission.

That is the goal for the RP Foundation..... to make the public and medical

professionals aware of RP and someday find a cure.

hugs

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In a message dated 10/29/01 2:33:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, kath1@...

writes:

<< have had costochondritis off and on for years. I

also have joint pain that was written off as fibromyalgia. >>

Kathleen, I have had the same symptoms for years... I'm glad that you found

the group. You will find out sooo much and will be able to share with your

doctors... (If they are one of the drs. that are willing to read what you

bring in, I hope so)

I didn't have my first ear flare until 1998 and wasnt' dx til 1999. I have

been on prednisone ever since that time. They started me on the medral

pack..and then I went to 80mg of pred. I added vioxx to that and couldn't

get the pred down below 30mg so started on methotrexate. Was on that for a

year and still couldn't get my pred down.. so switched to Imuran and it made

me TOO sick. Right now I am only on Biaxin and pred and have my pred down to

8mg... I go to see a new rheumy at Stanford on the 19th so will see what he

has to say.

Didn't mean to ramble on...Again welcome to the group and keep asking those

questions.. We all learn by them.

hugs

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Hi ,

Glad to hear you had such an insightful time at the Chicago conference. I

think your observations on MSA symptoms are good! I especially empathize

with the comment you made about the MD's and how they approach the dx of

MSA based on the symptoms. I really think that this disease is SO

problematic for the MD's because of the inability for any of them to give a

definitive dx " pre " mortem. The best they can do right now is classify it

as " possible " or " probable " When Jeff was going through the whole process

of obtaining a diagnosis, his doctors were like chickens with their heads

cut off. At first, it was like chasing ghosts. A symptom would appear,

mimic a common condition (like Crohn's Disease), tests would be run, and

would show " something " . I started to refer to the " somethings " as the

ghosts. But that ghost could not give a specific diagnosis. All of Jeff's

early symptoms were autonomic in nature, so early suspicions were things

like Crohn's disease, carcinomas, pancreatitis...I could go on for a LONG

time on this. But it wasn't until he started experiencing some of the PD

and neurological symptoms that any type of neurological condition was even

considered. And even the " experts " in the field want to pidgeonhole this

condition. So when a symptom comes up that doesn't " fit " , it makes them

crazy. I think the thing that distinguishes the REALLY good doctors from

the others is their ability to admit they don't know everything about MSA,

and that it is a condition still under development. The good ones will at

least listen to a concensus. Which is why, to make my very long soapbox

short, I agree that we should keep our symptom list as updated as possible,

and maybe even tak a pool of the percentage of us that are experiencing

these symptoms, and maybe even our ages. For instance, the vision problems

seem to be common, yet not listed as a significant symptom. Why? Maybe

the doctors feel that most MSA patients, being over 60, would have vision

difficulties whether they had MSA or not. But if we list that 90% of the

MSA patients under 40 have vision problems, it might become more

significant.

Where am I going with this! I'll just quit while I'm ahead!

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