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I'm thinking about switching health insurance for next year if it

turns out that United Healthcare doesn't approve surgery. Anyone

have Kaiser and got their surgery approved recently? Did you have to

appeal to get it?

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I have had Kaiser for years and have never had a problem. I called

my regular med doc and told her what I was considering and played up

the TMJ (mild, usually aggravated by dental work) and she refered me

to the OS without seeing me (I have a very good relationship with

her). I then saw my OS and basically if they were not going to

approve it, I was not going to get braces and do the whole process.

She took one look at my palate and said that that was one of the

narrowest pallates she had ever seen. I had a severe cross bite.

She approved it right there and I even made her say it again because

that was the deciding factor. Her assistant told me that the surgey

was a $30,000 surgery. So I went ahead. I had braces for a year

and a half. Surgery was postponed for a year after my 1st date.

Had the surgery on June 17th and am doing fine. I would absolutely

recommend Kaiser.

> I'm thinking about switching health insurance for next year if it

> turns out that United Healthcare doesn't approve surgery. Anyone

> have Kaiser and got their surgery approved recently? Did you have

to

> appeal to get it?

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I had my surgery approved by both Cigna and Kaiser on the first try.

I guess with a 12mm overbite, sleep apnea, snoring, and morning

headaches, they both found it medically necessary pretty easily. The

reason I had both approved was because my employer dropped Cigna at

the beginning of this year. Even so, Kaiser was by far easier, even

though neither were difficult.

For Kaiser I saw my new primary care doc. She referred my out of

network to my OS, who does all the Kaiser maxillofacial work in our

area. He took one look, and approved it on the spot and got to work

taking x-rays and models. Easy as pie.

Dammit

> I'm thinking about switching health insurance for next year if it

> turns out that United Healthcare doesn't approve surgery. Anyone

> have Kaiser and got their surgery approved recently? Did you have

to

> appeal to get it?

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I've had Kaiser for about 2 years now. When I first decided to get

braces and found out that I would need SARPE, I spoke to my general

about getting kaiser to cover it, but with no success. On two

seperate occasions I asked my doctor and both times he said that they

do not do that sort of thing. One time I had to go in for an

emergency visit for a busted toe and my regular doctor was not in.

The doc that did see me was much more open to referring me for a

consult with the MFS department and gave me a referral. So two weeks

before I met with the head of the MFS dep at SF med school, which

would have cost 200 for the consult and 30k+ for the procedure, I got

a meeting with the Kaiser staff. Though the Kaiser MFS dep all the

way in Oakland, I am glad I went. With in the first 2 minutes of the

consultation I was approved for all three procedures, though I only

need the SARPE. I was amazed how fast I was approved and how much

they were willing to cover the complete procedure. I dont think I

will be going through with anything but the SARPE, but I am very

happy not to have to pay any thing for it.

I hope it helps.

Arde

> I'm thinking about switching health insurance for next year if it

> turns out that United Healthcare doesn't approve surgery. Anyone

> have Kaiser and got their surgery approved recently? Did you have

to

> appeal to get it?

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What exactly is a SARPE?

Thanks

> > I'm thinking about switching health insurance for next year if it

> > turns out that United Healthcare doesn't approve surgery. Anyone

> > have Kaiser and got their surgery approved recently? Did you

have

> to

> > appeal to get it?

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When the orthodontist first told me I needed the surgery and that it

would cost $30,000, I freaked out. I did some research and found out

on this very website that people were getting it done at Kaiser and

it was covered.

I had to go through a few hoops: met with my primary who seemed

puzzled by my request (she had never heard of the procedure and

didn't think Kaiser did it), but she relented and sent me to head and

neck surgery for a consult. The doctor walked in, looked at me, and

said, " Oh yeah, you need surgery. " He then referred me to the oral

and maxillofacial dept. My meeting with them was much the same. I was

immediately approved for lower jaw surgery and will have it on

December 3.

And as an aside, there really seem to be a lot of folks here who are

getting it done at Kaiser, especially in Oakland. Maybe I should

start a website!?!

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Alot of Oakland people. Dr. O' is great as is her entire

staff. Never did meet the other OS there but they work as a team.--

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> When the orthodontist first told me I needed the surgery and that

it

> would cost $30,000, I freaked out. I did some research and found

out

> on this very website that people were getting it done at Kaiser

and

> it was covered.

>

> I had to go through a few hoops: met with my primary who seemed

> puzzled by my request (she had never heard of the procedure and

> didn't think Kaiser did it), but she relented and sent me to head

and

> neck surgery for a consult. The doctor walked in, looked at me,

and

> said, " Oh yeah, you need surgery. " He then referred me to the oral

> and maxillofacial dept. My meeting with them was much the same. I

was

> immediately approved for lower jaw surgery and will have it on

> December 3.

>

> And as an aside, there really seem to be a lot of folks here who

are

> getting it done at Kaiser, especially in Oakland. Maybe I should

> start a website!?!

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I had my surgery done by Dr. O'Rion. I love her, she's so kind and

sweet as well as an excellent surgeon with years of experience. She

works with Dr. Poor as a team. She's left handed and he's right

handed. They make a great duo.

> > When the orthodontist first told me I needed the surgery and

that

> it

> > would cost $30,000, I freaked out. I did some research and found

> out

> > on this very website that people were getting it done at Kaiser

> and

> > it was covered.

> >

> > I had to go through a few hoops: met with my primary who seemed

> > puzzled by my request (she had never heard of the procedure and

> > didn't think Kaiser did it), but she relented and sent me to

head

> and

> > neck surgery for a consult. The doctor walked in, looked at me,

> and

> > said, " Oh yeah, you need surgery. " He then referred me to the

oral

> > and maxillofacial dept. My meeting with them was much the same.

I

> was

> > immediately approved for lower jaw surgery and will have it on

> > December 3.

> >

> > And as an aside, there really seem to be a lot of folks here who

> are

> > getting it done at Kaiser, especially in Oakland. Maybe I should

> > start a website!?!

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I have my first meeting with Dr. Poor on the 19th, 8 days before the

big day. My Ortho has worked with both for many years, and highly

recommended O'. I am glad to hear that poor and oryan work

together. I am excited nervious and anxious about getting this over

with. We should have orthognathicsurgerysupport, bay area branch

party. hehehe

Arde

> > > When the orthodontist first told me I needed the surgery and

> that

> > it

> > > would cost $30,000, I freaked out. I did some research and

found

> > out

> > > on this very website that people were getting it done at Kaiser

> > and

> > > it was covered.

> > >

> > > I had to go through a few hoops: met with my primary who seemed

> > > puzzled by my request (she had never heard of the procedure and

> > > didn't think Kaiser did it), but she relented and sent me to

> head

> > and

> > > neck surgery for a consult. The doctor walked in, looked at me,

> > and

> > > said, " Oh yeah, you need surgery. " He then referred me to the

> oral

> > > and maxillofacial dept. My meeting with them was much the same.

> I

> > was

> > > immediately approved for lower jaw surgery and will have it on

> > > December 3.

> > >

> > > And as an aside, there really seem to be a lot of folks here

who

> > are

> > > getting it done at Kaiser, especially in Oakland. Maybe I

should

> > > start a website!?!

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I have my first meeting with Dr. Poor on the 19th, 8 days before the

big day. My Ortho has worked with both for many years, and highly

recommended O'. I am glad to hear that poor and oryan work

together. I am excited nervious and anxious about getting this over

with. We should have orthognathicsurgerysupport, bay area branch

party. hehehe

Arde

> > > When the orthodontist first told me I needed the surgery and

> that

> > it

> > > would cost $30,000, I freaked out. I did some research and

found

> > out

> > > on this very website that people were getting it done at Kaiser

> > and

> > > it was covered.

> > >

> > > I had to go through a few hoops: met with my primary who seemed

> > > puzzled by my request (she had never heard of the procedure and

> > > didn't think Kaiser did it), but she relented and sent me to

> head

> > and

> > > neck surgery for a consult. The doctor walked in, looked at me,

> > and

> > > said, " Oh yeah, you need surgery. " He then referred me to the

> oral

> > > and maxillofacial dept. My meeting with them was much the same.

> I

> > was

> > > immediately approved for lower jaw surgery and will have it on

> > > December 3.

> > >

> > > And as an aside, there really seem to be a lot of folks here

who

> > are

> > > getting it done at Kaiser, especially in Oakland. Maybe I

should

> > > start a website!?!

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