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I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space right now with regard

to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the 10% once I actually

start the program. My first appt. isn't for another month. I'm

finding myself halfway trying to " watch what I eat " , not actively

trying to lose right now but being very conscious of portion size and

my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same time I'm also going

through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my head is saying

" enjoy this now while you can because you won't be able to soon " .

Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want to gain. I'm not

binging or anything, but I'm also not really being very careful about

my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating smaller portions than

I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy thing, as long as I

don't go way overboard. I *think* this is just another way my head is

trying to ease me into something that I've been resisting for several

years now due to the permanency of it all.

I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of things again but

it's going to be a long time, and some of the things I enjoy I

probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot of different ethnic

foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very careful post-op when I

reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to allow myself this

time as a kind of mourning period in order to really commit to the

changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this?

Cathy

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Sure, I think we have all gone through this, Cathy. It's normal. There is a "saying good-bye" period. For one thing, you may not be able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet tooth, so this was a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to drink carbonated beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again, either. Or corn. Or popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are many post-ops who do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure your stoma or cause you great pain over time.

Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and limited capacity to eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. so, ethnic foods that have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to swell up in your tiny pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get enough nutrition. On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot of people. For me, the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I tend to keep down very spicy things quite well.

Are you going through Richmond, or some other? At Richmond, they weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is counted from the weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you lose weight beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it counts in your own life, and for your own health. And it's better to enter into a surgery at your best weight possible. On the other hand, at the beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of water weight, thereby making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you haven't begun a diet beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

I think you can find a balance. Give yourself the opportunity to go to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say good-bye to a few things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a glutton, and try not to gain weight. balance the meals you are having with a little extra exercise, a little more water. And when you aren't saying good-bye to a food, make sure you keep your meals very moderate. And frankly, even if you are having something you really like...try to keep the portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30 times), practice NOT drinking water or anything else during the meal (because afterwards, you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after you eat), practice drinking water throughout the day. These skills need to be practiced, to prepare you for post-surgery.

But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye to things (either forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head together and don't go completely nuts!!!

Good luck,

RobynnCathy wrote:

I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space right now with regard to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the 10% once I actually start the program. My first appt. isn't for another month. I'm finding myself halfway trying to "watch what I eat", not actively trying to lose right now but being very conscious of portion size and my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same time I'm also going through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my head is saying "enjoy this now while you can because you won't be able to soon". Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want to gain. I'm not binging or anything, but I'm also not really being very careful about my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating smaller portions than I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy thing, as long as I don't

go way overboard. I *think* this is just another way my head is trying to ease me into something that I've been resisting for several years now due to the permanency of it all. I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of things again but it's going to be a long time, and some of the things I enjoy I probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot of different ethnic foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very careful post-op when I reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to allow myself this time as a kind of mourning period in order to really commit to the changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this? Cathy

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Hi Cathy-

I think Robin said it pretty well in her reply to you.................Someone said everyones mileage varies...................I am six months post op now and it is true that i have had some of the foods in my case mangement class that we were told that we could not eat...............not a lot but a little, my surgeon told me with in one year of surgery that i could eat anything that i had before but just not a lot of it.................everyone has to do what best works for them, and what they can feel good about with themselves....................I do miss milk, who would of guessed, and i havent even tried it since surgery...................I just am afraid to get sick from it so i dont chance it............yet yesterday i went to the movies and i had about a cup of popcorn................ I dont know what else to tell you, but what you were saying went through my mind a lot before surgery. i think it is normal

best of luck

colleenCathy wrote:

I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space right now with regard to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the 10% once I actually start the program. My first appt. isn't for another month. I'm finding myself halfway trying to "watch what I eat", not actively trying to lose right now but being very conscious of portion size and my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same time I'm also going through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my head is saying "enjoy this now while you can because you won't be able to soon". Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want to gain. I'm not binging or anything, but I'm also not really being very careful about my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating smaller portions than I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy thing, as long as I don't go way

overboard. I *think* this is just another way my head is trying to ease me into something that I've been resisting for several years now due to the permanency of it all. I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of things again but it's going to be a long time, and some of the things I enjoy I probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot of different ethnic foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very careful post-op when I reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to allow myself this time as a kind of mourning period in order to really commit to the changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this? Cathy

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Yes, I have gone through this same exact thing, and

still am! For me, I just continue to perservere, even

after having " stuff " that I know I shouldn't have.

I think that if I continue to perservere, I will

eventually " get it " .

Good luck to you, Cathy...

Pam b

--- Cathy catic15@...> wrote:

> I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space

> right now with regard

> to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the

> 10% once I actually

> start the program. My first appt. isn't for another

> month. I'm

> finding myself halfway trying to " watch what I eat " ,

> not actively

> trying to lose right now but being very conscious of

> portion size and

> my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same

> time I'm also going

> through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my

> head is saying

> " enjoy this now while you can because you won't be

> able to soon " .

>

> Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want

> to gain. I'm not

> binging or anything, but I'm also not really being

> very careful about

> my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating

> smaller portions than

> I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy

> thing, as long as I

> don't go way overboard. I *think* this is just

> another way my head is

> trying to ease me into something that I've been

> resisting for several

> years now due to the permanency of it all.

>

> I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of

> things again but

> it's going to be a long time, and some of the things

> I enjoy I

> probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot

> of different ethnic

> foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very

> careful post-op when I

> reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to

> allow myself this

> time as a kind of mourning period in order to really

> commit to the

> changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this?

>

>

> Cathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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As always, great advice, Robynn!

Pam b

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Sure, I think we have all gone through this, Cathy.

> It's normal. There is a " saying good-bye " period.

> For one thing, you may not be able to tolerate sugar

> at all. I had a huge sweet tooth, so this was a

> very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to drink

> carbonated beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever

> again, either. Or corn. Or popcorn. Or alcohol.

> Or caffeine. Yes, there are many post-ops who do all

> of this...but it's not good...it can injure your

> stoma or cause you great pain over time.

>

> Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and

> limited capacity to eat...you really wind up eating

> mostly protein. so, ethnic foods that have pasta,

> bread, rice and things that tend to swell up in your

> tiny pouch are not good choices. You simply don't

> get enough nutrition. On the plus side, spices

> don't seem to bother alot of people. For me, the

> spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I tend

> to keep down very spicy things quite well.

>

> Are you going through Richmond, or some other? At

> Richmond, they weigh you at orientation, and your

> weightloss is counted from the weight you weigh that

> day. In other words, if you lose weight beforehand,

> it doesn't count. Now of course it counts in your

> own life, and for your own health. And it's better

> to enter into a surgery at your best weight

> possible. On the other hand, at the beginning of a

> diet, you tend to shed a lot of water weight,

> thereby making the 10 percent goal easier to reach

> if you haven't begun a diet beforehand. So, you

> need to think about it.

>

> I think you can find a balance. Give yourself the

> opportunity to go to a couple of your favorite

> restaurants, and say good-bye to a few things...but

> don't go on a bender. Don't be a glutton, and try

> not to gain weight. balance the meals you are

> having with a little extra exercise, a little more

> water. And when you aren't saying good-bye to a

> food, make sure you keep your meals very moderate.

> And frankly, even if you are having something you

> really like...try to keep the portions

> moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30 times), practice

> NOT drinking water or anything else during the meal

> (because afterwards, you will have to avoid drinking

> for an hour after you eat), practice drinking water

> throughout the day. These skills need to be

> practiced, to prepare you for post-surgery.

>

> But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye to

> things (either forever, or for a long time)...just

> keep your head together and don't go completely

> nuts!!!

>

> Good luck,

> Robynn

> Cathy catic15@...> wrote:

> I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space

> right now with regard

> to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the

> 10% once I actually

> start the program. My first appt. isn't for another

> month. I'm

> finding myself halfway trying to " watch what I eat " ,

> not actively

> trying to lose right now but being very conscious of

> portion size and

> my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same

> time I'm also going

> through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my

> head is saying

> " enjoy this now while you can because you won't be

> able to soon " .

>

> Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want

> to gain. I'm not

> binging or anything, but I'm also not really being

> very careful about

> my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating

> smaller portions than

> I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy

> thing, as long as I

> don't go way overboard. I *think* this is just

> another way my head is

> trying to ease me into something that I've been

> resisting for several

> years now due to the permanency of it all.

>

> I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of

> things again but

> it's going to be a long time, and some of the things

> I enjoy I

> probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot

> of different ethnic

> foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very

> careful post-op when I

> reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to

> allow myself this

> time as a kind of mourning period in order to really

> commit to the

> changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this?

>

>

> Cathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I didn't know that you couldn't have milk?! Is that

true? And if so, with what substance do I mix my

Pro-Complex shakes?

Pam b

--- Colleen Garner irishlilt@...> wrote:

> Hi Cathy-

>

> I think Robin said it pretty well in her reply to

> you.................Someone said everyones mileage

> varies...................I am six months post op now

> and it is true that i have had some of the foods in

> my case mangement class that we were told that we

> could not eat...............not a lot but a little,

> my surgeon told me with in one year of surgery that

> i could eat anything that i had before but just not

> a lot of it.................everyone has to do what

> best works for them, and what they can feel good

> about with themselves....................I do miss

> milk, who would of guessed, and i havent even tried

> it since surgery...................I just am afraid

> to get sick from it so i dont chance

> it............yet yesterday i went to the movies and

> i had about a cup of popcorn................ I dont

> know what else to tell you, but what you were saying

> went through my mind a lot before surgery. i think

> it is normal

> best of luck

> colleen

>

> Cathy catic15@...> wrote:

> I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space

> right now with regard

> to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the

> 10% once I actually

> start the program. My first appt. isn't for another

> month. I'm

> finding myself halfway trying to " watch what I eat " ,

> not actively

> trying to lose right now but being very conscious of

> portion size and

> my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same

> time I'm also going

> through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my

> head is saying

> " enjoy this now while you can because you won't be

> able to soon " .

>

> Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want

> to gain. I'm not

> binging or anything, but I'm also not really being

> very careful about

> my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating

> smaller portions than

> I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy

> thing, as long as I

> don't go way overboard. I *think* this is just

> another way my head is

> trying to ease me into something that I've been

> resisting for several

> years now due to the permanency of it all.

>

> I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of

> things again but

> it's going to be a long time, and some of the things

> I enjoy I

> probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot

> of different ethnic

> foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very

> careful post-op when I

> reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to

> allow myself this

> time as a kind of mourning period in order to really

> commit to the

> changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this?

>

>

> Cathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Some of has milk just fine. I have 6-12 ounces of Skim milk daily

with my protein shakes. Some people tolerate it...some people become

lactose intolerant. I didn't try it until I was about 6 weeks post-

op.

Tina

> > I'm finding myself in a weird kind of head space

> > right now with regard

> > to food. . . I know I'm going to have to lose the

> > 10% once I actually

> > start the program. My first appt. isn't for another

> > month. I'm

> > finding myself halfway trying to " watch what I eat " ,

> > not actively

> > trying to lose right now but being very conscious of

> > portion size and

> > my appetite (so far so good, right?). At the same

> > time I'm also going

> > through feelings each time I eat where a voice in my

> > head is saying

> > " enjoy this now while you can because you won't be

> > able to soon " .

> >

> > Even though I'm not trying to lose yet, I don't want

> > to gain. I'm not

> > binging or anything, but I'm also not really being

> > very careful about

> > my food choices (although as I said, I'm eating

> > smaller portions than

> > I used to). I *think* this is basically a heathy

> > thing, as long as I

> > don't go way overboard. I *think* this is just

> > another way my head is

> > trying to ease me into something that I've been

> > resisting for several

> > years now due to the permanency of it all.

> >

> > I know that eventually I may be able to eat a lot of

> > things again but

> > it's going to be a long time, and some of the things

> > I enjoy I

> > probably won't be able to have again. We eat a lot

> > of different ethnic

> > foods, and I know I'm going to have to be very

> > careful post-op when I

> > reintroduce foods. I feel almost as if I have to

> > allow myself this

> > time as a kind of mourning period in order to really

> > commit to the

> > changes I'll be making. Anyone else go through this?

> >

> >

> > Cathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Pam, some people become lactose intollerant. My

surgeon said that if you were a little borderline with

milk pre-op you probably wouldn't be able to tollerate

it post op. He said he has never seen anyone who did

great with milk pre op become lactose intollerant

post. I have been drinking milk occasionally since

about ten days post op with absolutely NO problems.

Laurie

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Thanks for the info, Laurie. I guess that I'll just

have to wait and see....

Pam b

--- LLLORY@... wrote:

>

> Pam, some people become lactose intollerant. My

> surgeon said that if you were a little borderline

> with

> milk pre-op you probably wouldn't be able to

> tollerate

> it post op. He said he has never seen anyone who

> did

> great with milk pre op become lactose intollerant

> post. I have been drinking milk occasionally since

> about ten days post op with absolutely NO problems.

> Laurie

>

> __________________________________________________

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I haven't had any problems with milk in my decaf coffee, either.

I don't drink it everyday, but it has just been fine.

RobynnPamela wrote:

Thanks for the info, Laurie. I guess that I'll justhave to wait and see....Pam b--- LLLORY@... wrote:> > Pam, some people become lactose intollerant. My> surgeon said that if you were a little borderline> with> milk pre-op you probably wouldn't be able to> tollerate> it post op. He said he has never seen anyone who> did> great with milk pre op become lactose intollerant> post. I have been drinking milk occasionally since> about ten days post op with absolutely NO problems.> Laurie> > __________________________________________________>

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Thanks, Robynn!

I don't know yet where I'll be assigned; logically it ought to be SSF

or Fremont, since they're much closer to me in Santa Clara than

Richmond is. So I don't know what they'll use as my starting point for

weight loss - we'll just have to see.

Glad to hear that spicy foods don't seem to cause trouble. I knew milk

might be problematic, but I'll have to wait and see. As for other

foods, I've been trying to look at menues through " post-op " eyes when

we go out to eat lately, to imagine what if anything I would be able

to eat at, say, six months post-op. Some places might still work,

others probably wouldn't. I've never had trouble drinking water

throughout the day; I always get plenty, so I don't think that will be

a problem.

As I said, I'm trying to keep my eating under reasonable control but

not being terribly strict until my first appointment. Thanks for all

the tips!

Cathy

> Sure, I think we have all gone through this, Cathy. It's normal.

There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one thing, you may not be

able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet tooth, so this was

a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to drink carbonated

beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again, either. Or corn. Or

popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are many post-ops who

do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure your stoma or cause

you great pain over time.

>

> Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and limited capacity to

eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. so, ethnic foods that

have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to swell up in your tiny

pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get enough nutrition.

On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot of people. For me,

the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I tend to keep down

very spicy things quite well.

>

> Are you going through Richmond, or some other? At Richmond, they

weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is counted from the

weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you lose weight

beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it counts in your own

life, and for your own health. And it's better to enter into a

surgery at your best weight possible. On the other hand, at the

beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of water weight, thereby

making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you haven't begun a diet

beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

>

> I think you can find a balance. Give yourself the opportunity to go

to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say good-bye to a few

things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a glutton, and try not to

gain weight. balance the meals you are having with a little extra

exercise, a little more water. And when you aren't saying good-bye to

a food, make sure you keep your meals very moderate. And frankly,

even if you are having something you really like...try to keep the

portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30 times), practice NOT

drinking water or anything else during the meal (because afterwards,

you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after you eat), practice

drinking water throughout the day. These skills need to be practiced,

to prepare you for post-surgery.

>

> But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye to things (either

forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head together and don't

go completely nuts!!!

>

> Good luck,

> Robynn

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Cathy...

Great, it sounds like you are doing good things to get prepared. The water thing though...I must warn you that I drank TONS of water before the surgery, and never thought it would be a problem. However, you can't gulp down water anymore, just take little sips (or at least for quite a while it will be like that). And you have to stop drinking 15 minutes before you eat, and no drinks during...and no drinking for an hour after you eat. That cuts out some of your time. So, I still think you may want to practice these skills. I've been truly surprised at how difficult the water has been!

RobynnCathy wrote:

Thanks, Robynn!I don't know yet where I'll be assigned; logically it ought to be SSF or Fremont, since they're much closer to me in Santa Clara than Richmond is. So I don't know what they'll use as my starting point for weight loss - we'll just have to see. Glad to hear that spicy foods don't seem to cause trouble. I knew milk might be problematic, but I'll have to wait and see. As for other foods, I've been trying to look at menues through "post-op" eyes when we go out to eat lately, to imagine what if anything I would be able to eat at, say, six months post-op. Some places might still work, others probably wouldn't. I've never had trouble drinking water throughout the day; I always get plenty, so I don't think that will be a problem. As I said, I'm trying to keep my eating under reasonable control but not being

terribly strict until my first appointment. Thanks for all the tips!Cathy> Sure, I think we have all gone through this, Cathy. It's normal. There is a "saying good-bye" period. For one thing, you may not be able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet tooth, so this was a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to drink carbonated beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again, either. Or corn. Or popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are many post-ops who do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure your stoma or cause you great pain over time.> > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and limited capacity to eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. so, ethnic foods that have pasta, bread, rice and things

that tend to swell up in your tiny pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get enough nutrition. On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot of people. For me, the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I tend to keep down very spicy things quite well.> > Are you going through Richmond, or some other? At Richmond, they weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is counted from the weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you lose weight beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it counts in your own life, and for your own health. And it's better to enter into a surgery at your best weight possible. On the other hand, at the beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of water weight, thereby making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you haven't begun a diet beforehand. So, you need to think about it.> > I think

you can find a balance. Give yourself the opportunity to go to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say good-bye to a few things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a glutton, and try not to gain weight. balance the meals you are having with a little extra exercise, a little more water. And when you aren't saying good-bye to a food, make sure you keep your meals very moderate. And frankly, even if you are having something you really like...try to keep the portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30 times), practice NOT drinking water or anything else during the meal (because afterwards, you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after you eat), practice drinking water throughout the day. These skills need to be practiced, to prepare you for post-surgery.> > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye to things (either forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head

together and don't go completely nuts!!!> > Good luck,> Robynn

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Cathy,

I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed out.

The water issue, really is one post op.

I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.

I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in 64 oz a day and it

is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water and sometimes I

still have to spit out what is left in my mouth because I took too

big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller sips from.

It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your meal or for at least

an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so you are more

prepared to what it will be like post op. I should have done that

more often and find that is the one thing I would have done

differently.

Take care and good luck on your journey!

Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!

Kay

> > Sure, I think we have all gone through this, Cathy. It's

normal.

> There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one thing, you may not be

> able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet tooth, so this

was

> a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to drink carbonated

> beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again, either. Or corn. Or

> popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are many post-ops

who

> do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure your stoma or

cause

> you great pain over time.

> >

> > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and limited capacity

to

> eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. so, ethnic foods

that

> have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to swell up in your

tiny

> pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get enough

nutrition.

> On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot of people. For

me,

> the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I tend to keep

down

> very spicy things quite well.

> >

> > Are you going through Richmond, or some other? At Richmond, they

> weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is counted from the

> weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you lose weight

> beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it counts in your own

> life, and for your own health. And it's better to enter into a

> surgery at your best weight possible. On the other hand, at the

> beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of water weight,

thereby

> making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you haven't begun a

diet

> beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

> >

> > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself the opportunity to

go

> to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say good-bye to a few

> things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a glutton, and try not

to

> gain weight. balance the meals you are having with a little extra

> exercise, a little more water. And when you aren't saying good-bye

to

> a food, make sure you keep your meals very moderate. And frankly,

> even if you are having something you really like...try to keep the

> portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30 times), practice NOT

> drinking water or anything else during the meal (because

afterwards,

> you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after you eat),

practice

> drinking water throughout the day. These skills need to be

practiced,

> to prepare you for post-surgery.

> >

> > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye to things

(either

> forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head together and

don't

> go completely nuts!!!

> >

> > Good luck,

> > Robynn

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I KNEW that this would be an issue, especially for me.

It's interesting to hear someone confirm what I had

always suspected. I also have always wondered how to

keep from getting dehydrated in the summer, since

post-ops are no longer allowed to drink as much water

as they feel they need...

Pam b

--- specialkmix2000 specialkmix2000@...> wrote:

> Cathy,

> I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed

> out.

> The water issue, really is one post op.

> I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.

> I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in 64

> oz a day and it

> is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water and

> sometimes I

> still have to spit out what is left in my mouth

> because I took too

> big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller sips

> from.

> It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your meal

> or for at least

> an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so

> you are more

> prepared to what it will be like post op. I should

> have done that

> more often and find that is the one thing I would

> have done

> differently.

>

> Take care and good luck on your journey!

> Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!

>

> Kay

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,

> Cathy. It's

> normal.

> > There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one

> thing, you may not be

> > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet

> tooth, so this

> was

> > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to

> drink carbonated

> > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,

> either. Or corn. Or

> > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are

> many post-ops

> who

> > do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure

> your stoma or

> cause

> > you great pain over time.

> > >

> > > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and

> limited capacity

> to

> > eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein.

> so, ethnic foods

> that

> > have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to

> swell up in your

> tiny

> > pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get

> enough

> nutrition.

> > On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot

> of people. For

> me,

> > the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I

> tend to keep

> down

> > very spicy things quite well.

> > >

> > > Are you going through Richmond, or some other?

> At Richmond, they

> > weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is

> counted from the

> > weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you

> lose weight

> > beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it

> counts in your own

> > life, and for your own health. And it's better to

> enter into a

> > surgery at your best weight possible. On the

> other hand, at the

> > beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of

> water weight,

> thereby

> > making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you

> haven't begun a

> diet

> > beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

> > >

> > > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself

> the opportunity to

> go

> > to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say

> good-bye to a few

> > things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a

> glutton, and try not

> to

> > gain weight. balance the meals you are having

> with a little extra

> > exercise, a little more water. And when you

> aren't saying good-bye

> to

> > a food, make sure you keep your meals very

> moderate. And frankly,

> > even if you are having something you really

> like...try to keep the

> > portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30

> times), practice NOT

> > drinking water or anything else during the meal

> (because

> afterwards,

> > you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after

> you eat),

> practice

> > drinking water throughout the day. These skills

> need to be

> practiced,

> > to prepare you for post-surgery.

> > >

> > > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye

> to things

> (either

> > forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head

> together and

>

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