Question Whether to or Whether to not lose more weight?

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Okay guys, I need some answers here. I am 6 months

post op and I have reached one of my two goals which

was to wear a size 10 petite (not necessarily petite,

it just so happens that, that is my size). My weight

goal is 130 and currently, I am at 156 (26 more to

go).

People have been telling me not to lose anymore

weight. I am 5 foot 2 inches. My husband saw me

model some of my clothes that I purchased over the

weekend and he cried. He stated that he did not think

I should lose anymore weight. He said he did not care

about the number pounds rather he just did not want me

to get too skinny. I know that getting to my goal

weight of 130 would probably take me down to a size 6

maybe 4...really am not sure and I don't want to be

that small either but I do want to get to 130. My

surgeons never gave me a goal weight. The 130 is just

my own goal. Medical text books would put me at

122/125. I am smaller now in size than I was before

having children. I have not been this small since

junior high school. Before children, I was around

14/12 (mainly 12s). Now its 10s (petite) and I could

wear a size 8 but they are tight.

Do I just try to maintain this weight or continue to I

reach my goal. I mean its only 26 pounds. Any

thoughts about this would be greatly appreciated. I

mean if I don't make it to 130, I would not be heart

broken. I just think that knowing that I made it

would be great. I know I am not in my 20s anymore (I

am 36) and that 140-145 is normally what I weighed

before having children. I just really don't know what

to do.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter. I

know this is minor stuff compared to other things that

people are dealing with.

Pam Marsh

--- specialkmix2000 specialkmix2000@...> wrote:

> Cathy,

> I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed

> out.

> The water issue, really is one post op.

> I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.

> I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in 64

> oz a day and it

> is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water and

> sometimes I

> still have to spit out what is left in my mouth

> because I took too

> big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller sips

> from.

> It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your meal

> or for at least

> an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so

> you are more

> prepared to what it will be like post op. I should

> have done that

> more often and find that is the one thing I would

> have done

> differently.

>

> Take care and good luck on your journey!

> Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!

>

> Kay

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,

> Cathy. It's

> normal.

> > There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one

> thing, you may not be

> > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet

> tooth, so this

> was

> > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to

> drink carbonated

> > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,

> either. Or corn. Or

> > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are

> many post-ops

> who

> > do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure

> your stoma or

> cause

> > you great pain over time.

> > >

> > > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and

> limited capacity

> to

> > eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein.

> so, ethnic foods

> that

> > have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to

> swell up in your

> tiny

> > pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get

> enough

> nutrition.

> > On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot

> of people. For

> me,

> > the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I

> tend to keep

> down

> > very spicy things quite well.

> > >

> > > Are you going through Richmond, or some other?

> At Richmond, they

> > weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is

> counted from the

> > weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you

> lose weight

> > beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it

> counts in your own

> > life, and for your own health. And it's better to

> enter into a

> > surgery at your best weight possible. On the

> other hand, at the

> > beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of

> water weight,

> thereby

> > making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you

> haven't begun a

> diet

> > beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

> > >

> > > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself

> the opportunity to

> go

> > to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say

> good-bye to a few

> > things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a

> glutton, and try not

> to

> > gain weight. balance the meals you are having

> with a little extra

> > exercise, a little more water. And when you

> aren't saying good-bye

> to

> > a food, make sure you keep your meals very

> moderate. And frankly,

> > even if you are having something you really

> like...try to keep the

> > portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30

> times), practice NOT

> > drinking water or anything else during the meal

> (because

> afterwards,

> > you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after

> you eat),

> practice

> > drinking water throughout the day. These skills

> need to be

> practiced,

> > to prepare you for post-surgery.

> > >

> > > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye

> to things

> (either

> > forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head

> together and

>

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Pam, I saw you a few moments ago and you look good! I agree w/N (hubby) I would say NO don't lose another pound. But, YOU have a goal. You said that you wouldn't be heart broken if you don't reach your goal, but would you ever wonder "what if"? If you don't lose the additional 26 pounds would you say/feel like you failed your goal? If you answer "yes" to either one, there you go continue with your weight lost, if you answer "no" to either one, there you go STOP losing --

Pamela A Marsh wrote:

Okay guys, I need some answers here. I am 6 monthspost op and I have reached one of my two goals whichwas to wear a size 10 petite (not necessarily petite,it just so happens that, that is my size). My weightgoal is 130 and currently, I am at 156 (26 more togo).People have been telling me not to lose anymoreweight. I am 5 foot 2 inches. My husband saw memodel some of my clothes that I purchased over theweekend and he cried. He stated that he did not thinkI should lose anymore weight. He said he did not careabout the number pounds rather he just did not want meto get too skinny. I know that getting to my goalweight of 130 would probably take me down to a size 6maybe 4...really am not sure and I don't want to bethat small either but I do want to get to 130. Mysurgeons

never gave me a goal weight. The 130 is justmy own goal. Medical text books would put me at122/125. I am smaller now in size than I was beforehaving children. I have not been this small sincejunior high school. Before children, I was around14/12 (mainly 12s). Now its 10s (petite) and I couldwear a size 8 but they are tight. Do I just try to maintain this weight or continue to Ireach my goal. I mean its only 26 pounds. Anythoughts about this would be greatly appreciated. Imean if I don't make it to 130, I would not be heartbroken. I just think that knowing that I made itwould be great. I know I am not in my 20s anymore (Iam 36) and that 140-145 is normally what I weighedbefore having children. I just really don't know whatto do.Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter. Iknow this is minor stuff compared to

other things thatpeople are dealing with.Pam Marsh--- specialkmix2000 wrote:> Cathy,> I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed> out.> The water issue, really is one post op.> I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.> I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in 64> oz a day and it > is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water and> sometimes I > still have to spit out what is left in my mouth> because I took too > big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller sips> from.> It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your meal> or for at least > an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so> you are more > prepared to what it will be like post op. I should> have done that > more often and find that is the one thing I would> have done >

differently.> > Take care and good luck on your journey! > Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!> > Kay> > > > > > > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,> Cathy. It's > normal. > > There is a "saying good-bye" period. For one> thing, you may

not be > > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet> tooth, so this > was > > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to> drink carbonated > > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,> either. Or corn. Or > > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are> many post-ops > who > > do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure> your stoma or > cause > > you great pain over time.> > > > > > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and> limited capacity > to > > eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. > so, ethnic foods > that > > have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to> swell up in your > tiny > > pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get> enough > nutrition.

> > On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot> of people. For > me, > > the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I> tend to keep > down > > very spicy things quite well.> > > > > > Are you going through Richmond, or some other? > At Richmond, they > > weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is> counted from the > > weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you> lose weight > > beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it> counts in your own > > life, and for your own health. And it's better to> enter into a > > surgery at your best weight possible. On the> other hand, at the > > beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of> water weight, > thereby > > making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you>

haven't begun a > diet > > beforehand. So, you need to think about it.> > > > > > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself> the opportunity to > go > > to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say> good-bye to a few > > things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a> glutton, and try not > to > > gain weight. balance the meals you are having> with a little extra > > exercise, a little more water. And when you> aren't saying good-bye > to > > a food, make sure you keep your meals very> moderate. And frankly, > > even if you are having something you really> like...try to keep the > > portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30> times), practice NOT > > drinking water or anything else during the meal> (because > afterwards,

> > you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after> you eat), > practice > > drinking water throughout the day. These skills> need to be > practiced, > > to prepare you for post-surgery.> > > > > > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye> to things > (either > > forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head> together and > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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Pam, I saw you a few moments ago and you look good! I agree w/N (hubby) I would say NO don't lose another pound. But, YOU have a goal. You said that you wouldn't be heart broken if you don't reach your goal, but would you ever wonder "what if"? If you don't lose the additional 26 pounds would you say/feel like you failed your goal? If you answer "yes" to either one, there you go continue with your weight lost, if you answer "no" to either one, there you go STOP losing --

ps you are healthier now than what you were last year this time (wink).

Much Love

Pamela A Marsh wrote:

Okay guys, I need some answers here. I am 6 monthspost op and I have reached one of my two goals whichwas to wear a size 10 petite (not necessarily petite,it just so happens that, that is my size). My weightgoal is 130 and currently, I am at 156 (26 more togo).People have been telling me not to lose anymoreweight. I am 5 foot 2 inches. My husband saw memodel some of my clothes that I purchased over theweekend and he cried. He stated that he did not thinkI should lose anymore weight. He said he did not careabout the number pounds rather he just did not want meto get too skinny. I know that getting to my goalweight of 130 would probably take me down to a size 6maybe 4...really am not sure and I don't want to bethat small either but I do want to get to 130. Mysurgeons

never gave me a goal weight. The 130 is justmy own goal. Medical text books would put me at122/125. I am smaller now in size than I was beforehaving children. I have not been this small sincejunior high school. Before children, I was around14/12 (mainly 12s). Now its 10s (petite) and I couldwear a size 8 but they are tight. Do I just try to maintain this weight or continue to Ireach my goal. I mean its only 26 pounds. Anythoughts about this would be greatly appreciated. Imean if I don't make it to 130, I would not be heartbroken. I just think that knowing that I made itwould be great. I know I am not in my 20s anymore (Iam 36) and that 140-145 is normally what I weighedbefore having children. I just really don't know whatto do.Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter. Iknow this is minor stuff compared to

other things thatpeople are dealing with.Pam Marsh--- specialkmix2000 wrote:> Cathy,> I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed> out.> The water issue, really is one post op.> I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.> I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in 64> oz a day and it > is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water and> sometimes I > still have to spit out what is left in my mouth> because I took too > big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller sips> from.> It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your meal> or for at least > an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so> you are more > prepared to what it will be like post op. I should> have done that > more often and find that is the one thing I would> have done >

differently.> > Take care and good luck on your journey! > Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!> > Kay> > > > > > > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,> Cathy. It's > normal. > > There is a "saying good-bye" period. For one> thing, you may

not be > > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet> tooth, so this > was > > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to> drink carbonated > > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,> either. Or corn. Or > > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are> many post-ops > who > > do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure> your stoma or > cause > > you great pain over time.> > > > > > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and> limited capacity > to > > eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein. > so, ethnic foods > that > > have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to> swell up in your > tiny > > pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get> enough > nutrition.

> > On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot> of people. For > me, > > the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I> tend to keep > down > > very spicy things quite well.> > > > > > Are you going through Richmond, or some other? > At Richmond, they > > weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is> counted from the > > weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you> lose weight > > beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it> counts in your own > > life, and for your own health. And it's better to> enter into a > > surgery at your best weight possible. On the> other hand, at the > > beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of> water weight, > thereby > > making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you>

haven't begun a > diet > > beforehand. So, you need to think about it.> > > > > > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself> the opportunity to > go > > to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say> good-bye to a few > > things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a> glutton, and try not > to > > gain weight. balance the meals you are having> with a little extra > > exercise, a little more water. And when you> aren't saying good-bye > to > > a food, make sure you keep your meals very> moderate. And frankly, > > even if you are having something you really> like...try to keep the > > portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30> times), practice NOT > > drinking water or anything else during the meal> (because > afterwards,

> > you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after> you eat), > practice > > drinking water throughout the day. These skills> need to be > practiced, > > to prepare you for post-surgery.> > > > > > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye> to things > (either > > forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head> together and > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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Yes , I will always wonder " what if " so I think I

will just see what happens. If I make it there all

the better if not, I achieved one of the goals size

wise. We will see. I think I will go for it. I

don't want to ever look back anymore and say what if.

Thanks honey.

Pam Marsh

--- kmw692000@...> wrote:

> Pam, I saw you a few moments ago and you look good!

> I agree w/N (hubby) I would say NO don't lose

> another pound. But, YOU have a goal. You said that

> you wouldn't be heart broken if you don't reach your

> goal, but would you ever wonder " what if " ? If you

> don't lose the additional 26 pounds would you

> say/feel like you failed your goal? If you answer

> " yes " to either one, there you go continue with your

> weight lost, if you answer " no " to either one, there

> you go STOP losing --

>

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Okay guys, I need some answers here. I am 6 months

> post op and I have reached one of my two goals which

> was to wear a size 10 petite (not necessarily

> petite,

> it just so happens that, that is my size). My

> weight

> goal is 130 and currently, I am at 156 (26 more to

> go).

>

> People have been telling me not to lose anymore

> weight. I am 5 foot 2 inches. My husband saw me

> model some of my clothes that I purchased over the

> weekend and he cried. He stated that he did not

> think

> I should lose anymore weight. He said he did not

> care

> about the number pounds rather he just did not want

> me

> to get too skinny. I know that getting to my goal

> weight of 130 would probably take me down to a size

> 6

> maybe 4...really am not sure and I don't want to be

> that small either but I do want to get to 130. My

> surgeons never gave me a goal weight. The 130 is

> just

> my own goal. Medical text books would put me at

> 122/125. I am smaller now in size than I was before

> having children. I have not been this small since

> junior high school. Before children, I was around

> 14/12 (mainly 12s). Now its 10s (petite) and I

> could

> wear a size 8 but they are tight.

>

> Do I just try to maintain this weight or continue to

> I

> reach my goal. I mean its only 26 pounds. Any

> thoughts about this would be greatly appreciated. I

> mean if I don't make it to 130, I would not be heart

> broken. I just think that knowing that I made it

> would be great. I know I am not in my 20s anymore

> (I

> am 36) and that 140-145 is normally what I weighed

> before having children. I just really don't know

> what

> to do.

>

> Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter.

> I

> know this is minor stuff compared to other things

> that

> people are dealing with.

>

> Pam Marsh

> --- specialkmix2000 specialkmix2000@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Cathy,

> > I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely pointed

> > out.

> > The water issue, really is one post op.

> > I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day pre-op.

> > I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get in

> 64

> > oz a day and it

> > is a struggle. There is no more gulping of water

> and

> > sometimes I

> > still have to spit out what is left in my mouth

> > because I took too

> > big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller

> sips

> > from.

> > It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your

> meal

> > or for at least

> > an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now so

> > you are more

> > prepared to what it will be like post op. I should

> > have done that

> > more often and find that is the one thing I would

> > have done

> > differently.

> >

> > Take care and good luck on your journey!

> > Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!

> >

> > Kay

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,

> > Cathy. It's

> > normal.

> > > There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one

> > thing, you may not be

> > > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge

> sweet

> > tooth, so this

> > was

> > > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to

> > drink carbonated

> > > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,

> > either. Or corn. Or

> > > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there

> are

>

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You need to go by what feels right for you. I am only 4'11 and

currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to get to 135. I want to

be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so who knows if I will

ever get there.

If you find you have to really really struggle to stay at a certain

weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If you find you can eat

almost anything and still lose...then thats where your body wants you.

Huggles

> > > > Sure, I think we have all gone through this,

> > Cathy. It's

> > normal.

> > > There is a " saying good-bye " period. For one

> > thing, you may not be

> > > able to tolerate sugar at all. I had a huge sweet

> > tooth, so this

> > was

> > > a very big sacrifice. You aren't supposed to

> > drink carbonated

> > > beverages (and I loved Perrier) ever again,

> > either. Or corn. Or

> > > popcorn. Or alcohol. Or caffeine. Yes, there are

> > many post-ops

> > who

> > > do all of this...but it's not good...it can injure

> > your stoma or

> > cause

> > > you great pain over time.

> > > >

> > > > Also, when you have such a limited appetite, and

> > limited capacity

> > to

> > > eat...you really wind up eating mostly protein.

> > so, ethnic foods

> > that

> > > have pasta, bread, rice and things that tend to

> > swell up in your

> > tiny

> > > pouch are not good choices. You simply don't get

> > enough

> > nutrition.

> > > On the plus side, spices don't seem to bother alot

> > of people. For

> > me,

> > > the spicier the better...I'm two months out, and I

> > tend to keep

> > down

> > > very spicy things quite well.

> > > >

> > > > Are you going through Richmond, or some other?

> > At Richmond, they

> > > weigh you at orientation, and your weightloss is

> > counted from the

> > > weight you weigh that day. In other words, if you

> > lose weight

> > > beforehand, it doesn't count. Now of course it

> > counts in your own

> > > life, and for your own health. And it's better to

> > enter into a

> > > surgery at your best weight possible. On the

> > other hand, at the

> > > beginning of a diet, you tend to shed a lot of

> > water weight,

> > thereby

> > > making the 10 percent goal easier to reach if you

> > haven't begun a

> > diet

> > > beforehand. So, you need to think about it.

> > > >

> > > > I think you can find a balance. Give yourself

> > the opportunity to

> > go

> > > to a couple of your favorite restaurants, and say

> > good-bye to a few

> > > things...but don't go on a bender. Don't be a

> > glutton, and try not

> > to

> > > gain weight. balance the meals you are having

> > with a little extra

> > > exercise, a little more water. And when you

> > aren't saying good-bye

> > to

> > > a food, make sure you keep your meals very

> > moderate. And frankly,

> > > even if you are having something you really

> > like...try to keep the

> > > portions moderate...chew a lot (each bite 30

> > times), practice NOT

> > > drinking water or anything else during the meal

> > (because

> > afterwards,

> > > you will have to avoid drinking for an hour after

> > you eat),

> > practice

> > > drinking water throughout the day. These skills

> > need to be

> > practiced,

> > > to prepare you for post-surgery.

> > > >

> > > > But it's normal, and I think ok, to say good-bye

> > to things

> > (either

> > > forever, or for a long time)...just keep your head

> > together and

> >

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>

>

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>

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Thanks . I don't want my husband to be sad with

this weight loss thingie. We all need to be happy and

I am happy even if I don't go any smaller. I just

think sometimes, well I know I can be sometimes

unrealistic about things as it relates to weight. A

large part of this 130 thing is because I am afraid of

being overweight again. There, I said it. I think

that being at 130 would not be so bad if for some

reason I put back on 10 pounds. If I did so at my

weight now, I would be 166 and for me...personally for

me its scares the crap out of me because that would

put be too close to 200 again and I never want to be

fat again. I will be prayerful about it and see what

happens. Thanks again for your advice.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> You need to go by what feels right for you. I am

> only 4'11 and

> currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to get

> to 135. I want to

> be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so who

> knows if I will

> ever get there.

>

> If you find you have to really really struggle to

> stay at a certain

> weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If you

> find you can eat

> almost anything and still lose...then thats where

> your body wants you.

>

> Huggles

>

>

>

> > > > Thanks, Robynn!

> > > >

> > > > I don't know yet where I'll be assigned;

> logically

> > > it ought to be

> > > SSF

> > > > or Fremont, since they're much closer to me in

> > > Santa Clara than

> > > > Richmond is. So I don't know what they'll use

> as

> > > my starting point

> > > for

> > > > weight loss - we'll just have to see.

> > > >

> > > > Glad to hear that spicy foods don't seem to

> cause

> > > trouble. I knew

> > > milk

> > > > might be problematic, but I'll have to wait

> and

> > > see. As for other

> > > > foods, I've been trying to look at menues

> through

> > > " post-op " eyes

> > > when

> > > > we go out to eat lately, to imagine what if

> > > anything I would be

> > > able

> > > > to eat at, say, six months post-op. Some

> places

> > > might still work,

> > > > others probably wouldn't. I've never had

> trouble

> > > drinking water

> > > > throughout the day; I always get plenty, so I

> > > don't think that will

> > > be

> > > > a problem.

> > > >

> > > > As I said, I'm trying to keep my eating under

> > > reasonable control

> > > but

>

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Pam...

Some people don't think that I can lose (or should lose) 50 more lbs. But, i distribute it all over my body, and so when it comes off of my 5'6" frame...I get smaller...but I won't be a tiny skinny little thing at that weight. I know that. I doubt that I'll even be an 8 at 142. I think I was a 10 before when I was at that weight. Even at my height.

People don't know your body the way you do. I think it's fine to try and get to a weight where you can afford to gain a little...a little leeway. Are you sure your husband isnt just mainfesting insecurity? Or does he prefer you big? Is that his real preference, or is that just a comfort zone?

You are tiny...but as I said, you don't look anorexic or unhealthy or unduly little. I mean...let's get real: you are a tiny person. Your bones aren't big, you are short...and while you have a curvy figure, and therefore you probably shouldn't get down to a size 2 or 4...I think you could easily wear a six. You will still have your pretty curves.

But, you need to do what is comfortable for you. Don't succumb to anyone else's ideal of what is right for you...only you can decide that. I promise you, if you start looking anorexic, I'll shove a cheeseburger down your throat until you become normal again! ; )

Love you,

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

Thanks . I don't want my husband to be sad withthis weight loss thingie. We all need to be happy andI am happy even if I don't go any smaller. I justthink sometimes, well I know I can be sometimesunrealistic about things as it relates to weight. Alarge part of this 130 thing is because I am afraid ofbeing overweight again. There, I said it. I thinkthat being at 130 would not be so bad if for somereason I put back on 10 pounds. If I did so at myweight now, I would be 166 and for me...personally forme its scares the crap out of me because that wouldput be too close to 200 again and I never want to befat again. I will be prayerful about it and see whathappens. Thanks again for your advice.Pam Marsh--- Diane Duenas

wrote:> You need to go by what feels right for you. I am> only 4'11 and > currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to get> to 135. I want to > be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so who> knows if I will > ever get there.> > If you find you have to really really struggle to> stay at a certain > weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If you> find you can eat > almost anything and still lose...then thats where> your body wants you.> > Huggles> > > > > > > Thanks, Robynn!> > > > > > > > I don't know yet where I'll be assigned;> logically> > > it ought to be > > > SSF > > > > or Fremont, since they're much closer to me in> > > Santa Clara than > > > > Richmond is. So I don't know what they'll use> as> > > my starting point > > > for > > > > weight loss - we'll just have to see. > > > > > > > > Glad to hear that spicy foods don't seem to> cause> > > trouble. I knew > > > milk > > > > might be problematic, but I'll have to wait>

and> > > see. As for other > > > > foods, I've been trying to look at menues> through> > > "post-op" eyes > > > when > > > > we go out to eat lately, to imagine what if> > > anything I would be > > > able > > > > to eat at, say, six months post-op. Some> places> > > might still work, > > > > others probably wouldn't. I've never had> trouble> > > drinking water > > > > throughout the day; I always get plenty, so I> > > don't think that will > > > be > > > > a problem. > > > > > > > > As I said, I'm trying to keep my eating under> > > reasonable control > > > but > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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-what kind of frame do you have? small, med, large, meaning bone density--

I have a larger frame im 5'5 " so my goal is 170- i know that might

sound high, but i want to be curvy- and DH prefers the more vuluptios

woman...i was happy at 170- thats a 12/13 for mebecasue of my frame,,

so i would say work with your frame, and you will know when you hit

the right size for you!

sarah castro

-37 since Feb 05

-- In gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients , Pamela A

Marsh wrote:

> Thanks . I don't want my husband to be sad with

> this weight loss thingie. We all need to be happy and

> I am happy even if I don't go any smaller. I just

> think sometimes, well I know I can be sometimes

> unrealistic about things as it relates to weight. A

> large part of this 130 thing is because I am afraid of

> being overweight again. There, I said it. I think

> that being at 130 would not be so bad if for some

> reason I put back on 10 pounds. If I did so at my

> weight now, I would be 166 and for me...personally for

> me its scares the crap out of me because that would

> put be too close to 200 again and I never want to be

> fat again. I will be prayerful about it and see what

> happens. Thanks again for your advice.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Diane Duenas

> wrote:

>

> > You need to go by what feels right for you. I am

> > only 4'11 and

> > currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to get

> > to 135. I want to

> > be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so who

> > knows if I will

> > ever get there.

> >

> > If you find you have to really really struggle to

> > stay at a certain

> > weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If you

> > find you can eat

> > almost anything and still lose...then thats where

> > your body wants you.

> >

> > Huggles

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > Thanks, Robynn!

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know yet where I'll be assigned;

> > logically

> > > > it ought to be

> > > > SSF

> > > > > or Fremont, since they're much closer to me in

> > > > Santa Clara than

> > > > > Richmond is. So I don't know what they'll use

> > as

> > > > my starting point

> > > > for

> > > > > weight loss - we'll just have to see.

> > > > >

> > > > > Glad to hear that spicy foods don't seem to

> > cause

> > > > trouble. I knew

> > > > milk

> > > > > might be problematic, but I'll have to wait

> > and

> > > > see. As for other

> > > > > foods, I've been trying to look at menues

> > through

> > > > " post-op " eyes

> > > > when

> > > > > we go out to eat lately, to imagine what if

> > > > anything I would be

> > > > able

> > > > > to eat at, say, six months post-op. Some

> > places

> > > > might still work,

> > > > > others probably wouldn't. I've never had

> > trouble

> > > > drinking water

> > > > > throughout the day; I always get plenty, so I

> > > > don't think that will

> > > > be

> > > > > a problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > As I said, I'm trying to keep my eating under

> > > > reasonable control

> > > > but

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hey Tina, it is overweight for me. I did not get a

goal weight when I went through the process. This is

just going to be one of those things that will just

have to pan out on its own. I am thinking maybe

another 20 pounds and then try to just stay there but

if I do that, I might as well lose the other 6 pounds.

Oh well. One day at a time and thank you.

Pam Marsh

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> What does 156 translate into for BMI? Just another

> thing to look at.

> I know those BMI charts are sometimes a bit

> ridiculous (weights too

> low and they don't take into account body fat

> percentages). It might

> give you a better idea if 130 is too low for you or

> if 156 is a good

> weight for you.

>

> Just a thought!

>

> Does anyone know whether the surgeons give you a

> goal weight at some

> point???

>

> Tina

>

>

> > > > > > Okay guys, I need some answers here. I am

> 6

> > > > > months

> > > > > > post op and I have reached one of my two

> goals

> > > > > which

> > > > > > was to wear a size 10 petite (not

> necessarily

> > > > > petite,

> > > > > > it just so happens that, that is my size).

> My

> > > > > weight

> > > > > > goal is 130 and currently, I am at 156 (26

> > > more to

> > > > > > go).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People have been telling me not to lose

> > > anymore

> > > > > > weight. I am 5 foot 2 inches. My husband

> saw

> > > me

> > > > > > model some of my clothes that I purchased

> over

> > > the

> > > > > > weekend and he cried. He stated that he

> did

> > > not

> > > > > think

> > > > > > I should lose anymore weight. He said he

> did

> > > not

> > > > > care

> > > > > > about the number pounds rather he just did

> not

> > > > > want me

> > > > > > to get too skinny. I know that getting to

> my

> > > goal

> > > > > > weight of 130 would probably take me down

> to a

> > > > > size 6

> > > > > > maybe 4...really am not sure and I don't

> want

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > that small either but I do want to get to

> 130.

> > > My

> > > > > > surgeons never gave me a goal weight. The

> 130

> > > is

> > > > > just

> > > > > > my own goal. Medical text books would put

> me

> > > at

> > > > > > 122/125. I am smaller now in size than I

> was

> > > > > before

> > > > > > having children. I have not been this

> small

>

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You know Robynn, I know this is probably the minor

question among all the issues on this board and to

some it might even be senseless but nonetheless, I

stare it in the face.

Nonetheless, I think you are right on one account

because of the fact that he keeps saying things about

me getting skinny and leaving him which you know aint

going to happen. I think because he hears things men

say when we are out and we often talk about things in

our own relationship and he feels like he could have

done more for me/us but I am completely and totally

satisfied with him. I could not have asked for a

better person share my life with and to raise kids

with. My husband knows that I won't be totally

satisifed until I reach that magic number. I won't

worry myself about this much futher. I am going to

continue to do what I have been doing and see what

happens.

Dr. Fisher talked about this in our six month post op

apt. last Thursday. I told him that some people are

telling me to stop losing weight or to not lose

anymore but I told him it was a personal thing.

Cheeseburger...now what in he heck is that. Just

joking. Thanks Robynn. Thanks for everything.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Pam...

>

> Some people don't think that I can lose (or should

> lose) 50 more lbs. But, i distribute it all over my

> body, and so when it comes off of my 5'6 " frame...I

> get smaller...but I won't be a tiny skinny little

> thing at that weight. I know that. I doubt that

> I'll even be an 8 at 142. I think I was a 10 before

> when I was at that weight. Even at my height.

>

> People don't know your body the way you do. I think

> it's fine to try and get to a weight where you can

> afford to gain a little...a little leeway. Are you

> sure your husband isnt just mainfesting insecurity?

> Or does he prefer you big? Is that his real

> preference, or is that just a comfort zone?

>

> You are tiny...but as I said, you don't look

> anorexic or unhealthy or unduly little. I

> mean...let's get real: you are a tiny person. Your

> bones aren't big, you are short...and while you have

> a curvy figure, and therefore you probably shouldn't

> get down to a size 2 or 4...I think you could easily

> wear a six. You will still have your pretty curves.

>

> But, you need to do what is comfortable for you.

> Don't succumb to anyone else's ideal of what is

> right for you...only you can decide that. I promise

> you, if you start looking anorexic, I'll shove a

> cheeseburger down your throat until you become

> normal again! ; )

>

> Love you,

> Robynn

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Thanks . I don't want my husband to be sad

> with

> this weight loss thingie. We all need to be happy

> and

> I am happy even if I don't go any smaller. I just

> think sometimes, well I know I can be sometimes

> unrealistic about things as it relates to weight. A

> large part of this 130 thing is because I am afraid

> of

> being overweight again. There, I said it. I think

> that being at 130 would not be so bad if for some

> reason I put back on 10 pounds. If I did so at my

> weight now, I would be 166 and for me...personally

> for

> me its scares the crap out of me because that would

> put be too close to 200 again and I never want to be

> fat again. I will be prayerful about it and see

> what

> happens. Thanks again for your advice.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

> wrote:

>

> > You need to go by what feels right for you. I am

> > only 4'11 and

> > currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to

> get

> > to 135. I want to

> > be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so

> who

> > knows if I will

> > ever get there.

> >

> > If you find you have to really really struggle to

> > stay at a certain

> > weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If

> you

> > find you can eat

> > almost anything and still lose...then thats where

> > your body wants you.

> >

> > Huggles

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Cathy,

> > > > I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely

> > pointed

> > > > out.

> > > > The water issue, really is one post op.

> > > > I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day

> > pre-op.

> > > > I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get

> in

> > 64

> > > > oz a day and it

> > > > is a struggle. There is no more gulping of

> water

> > and

> > > > sometimes I

> > > > still have to spit out what is left in my

> mouth

> > > > because I took too

> > > > big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller

> > sips

> > > > from.

> > > > It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your

> > meal

> > > > or for at least

> > > > an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now

> > so

> > > > you are more

> > > > prepared to what it will be like post op. I

> > should

> > > > have done that

> > > > more often and find that is the one thing I

> > would

> > > > have done

> > > > differently.

> > > >

> > > > Take care and good luck on your journey!

> > > > Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!

>

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I don't think it's minor at all, Pam. I mean, it's something we will all have to face on one level or another: either we'll think we look perfectly fine but the charts and maybe even the doctors will be telling us that we need to lose more...or the people in our life will be saying, "Enough, enough, enough!!!"

The bottom line is whether you are seeking to achieve something that isn't possible or healthy. If your goal weight puts you into the underweight category on the board...then i'd have to take you over my knee and beat some sense into you. But, the reality is that you won't know until you get there. You won't know if it's right or wrong for you. but, hey...you can always slowly and reaosnably gain back to a weight that makes sense for you. Something you can sustain, and a weight that leaves you feeling comfortable.

Good luck, girl. You look fantabulous now, that's for sure.

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

You know Robynn, I know this is probably the minorquestion among all the issues on this board and tosome it might even be senseless but nonetheless, Istare it in the face.Nonetheless, I think you are right on one accountbecause of the fact that he keeps saying things aboutme getting skinny and leaving him which you know aintgoing to happen. I think because he hears things mensay when we are out and we often talk about things inour own relationship and he feels like he could havedone more for me/us but I am completely and totallysatisfied with him. I could not have asked for abetter person share my life with and to raise kidswith. My husband knows that I won't be totallysatisifed until I reach that magic number. I won'tworry myself about this much futher. I am going tocontinue to

do what I have been doing and see whathappens.Dr. Fisher talked about this in our six month post opapt. last Thursday. I told him that some people aretelling me to stop losing weight or to not loseanymore but I told him it was a personal thing. Cheeseburger...now what in he heck is that. Justjoking. Thanks Robynn. Thanks for everything.Pam Marsh--- Robynn VanPatten wrote:> Pam...> > Some people don't think that I can lose (or should> lose) 50 more lbs. But, i distribute it all over my> body, and so when it comes off of my 5'6" frame...I> get smaller...but I won't be a tiny skinny little> thing at that weight. I know that. I doubt that> I'll even be an 8 at 142. I think I was a 10 before> when I was at that weight. Even at my height.> > People don't

know your body the way you do. I think> it's fine to try and get to a weight where you can> afford to gain a little...a little leeway. Are you> sure your husband isnt just mainfesting insecurity? > Or does he prefer you big? Is that his real> preference, or is that just a comfort zone?> > You are tiny...but as I said, you don't look> anorexic or unhealthy or unduly little. I> mean...let's get real: you are a tiny person. Your> bones aren't big, you are short...and while you have> a curvy figure, and therefore you probably shouldn't> get down to a size 2 or 4...I think you could easily> wear a six. You will still have your pretty curves.> > But, you need to do what is comfortable for you. > Don't succumb to anyone else's ideal of what is> right for you...only you can decide that. I promise> you, if

you start looking anorexic, I'll shove a> cheeseburger down your throat until you become> normal again! ; )> > Love you,> Robynn> > Pamela A Marsh wrote:> Thanks . I don't want my husband to be sad> with> this weight loss thingie. We all need to be happy> and> I am happy even if I don't go any smaller. I just> think sometimes, well I know I can be sometimes> unrealistic about things as it relates to weight. A> large part of this 130 thing is because I am afraid> of> being overweight again. There, I said it. I think> that being at 130 would not be so bad if for some> reason I put back on 10 pounds. If I did so at my> weight now, I would be 166 and for me...personally> for> me its scares the crap out of me because that would> put be too

close to 200 again and I never want to be> fat again. I will be prayerful about it and see> what> happens. Thanks again for your advice.> > Pam Marsh> > --- Diane Duenas > wrote:> > > You need to go by what feels right for you. I am> > only 4'11 and > > currently at 161. I was 150 and I still want to> get> > to 135. I want to > > be in a comfortable 8. I have thunder thighs so> who> > knows if I will > > ever get there.> > > > If you find you have to really really struggle to> > stay at a certain > > weight then go up 5 pounds from that weight. If> you> > find you can eat > > almost anything and still lose...then thats where> > your body wants you.> > > > Huggles> > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cathy,> > > > I have to piggy back to what Robynn wisely> > pointed> > > > out.> > > > The water issue, really is one post op.> > > > I used to consume 2 gallons of water a day> > pre-op.> > > > I am just now, at 7 weeks post op able to get> in> > 64> > > > oz a day and it > > > > is a struggle. There is no more gulping of> water> > and> > > > sometimes I > > > > still have to spit out what is left in my> mouth> > > > because I took too > > > > big of a portion into my mouth to take smaller> > sips>

> > > from.> > > > It is hard to adjust to not drinking with your> > meal> > > > or for at least > > > > an hour after a meal. I suggest you try it now> > so> > > > you are more > > > > prepared to what it will be like post op. I> > should> > > > have done that > > > > more often and find that is the one thing I> > would> > > > have done > > > > differently.> > > > > > > > Take care and good luck on your journey! > > > > Hope you don't mind my adding my 2 cents!> === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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Tina, that's not so bad! I remember 190 from Middle

School. LOL I think I'll just wait and see where my

body wants to take me. Maybe...it's still early.

Laurie

5'6 " 228lbs, 4.5 weeks out

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When I graduated from High School I was 250. When I got married, 224.

When I tried to get pregnant, over 300 pounds. Finally conceived, 250

pounds. Constant yo-yo!

I'll be so happy when I get under 200 pounds! Hopefully within the

next couple of months.

Tina

Surgery: 5/24/05

Orientation: 330

Weight at Surgery: 294

Today's Weight: 240.5

Someday: 160?

>

> Tina, that's not so bad! I remember 190 from Middle

> School. LOL I think I'll just wait and see where my

> body wants to take me. Maybe...it's still early.

> Laurie

> 5'6 " 228lbs, 4.5 weeks out

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Congratulations on your weight loss, Tina!!!

Pam b

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> When I graduated from High School I was 250. When I

> got married, 224.

> When I tried to get pregnant, over 300 pounds.

> Finally conceived, 250

> pounds. Constant yo-yo!

>

> I'll be so happy when I get under 200 pounds!

> Hopefully within the

> next couple of months.

>

> Tina

> Surgery: 5/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Weight at Surgery: 294

> Today's Weight: 240.5

> Someday: 160?

>

>

> >

> > Tina, that's not so bad! I remember 190 from

> Middle

> > School. LOL I think I'll just wait and see where

> my

> > body wants to take me. Maybe...it's still early.

> > Laurie

> > 5'6 " 228lbs, 4.5 weeks out

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Thank you!! I feel really good (except for a bit of fatigue). I'm

glad this weight is still coming off at the rate of about 4.5 pounds

a week. I sure hope that continues until I get to under 200 pounds!

Tina

> > >

> > > Tina, that's not so bad! I remember 190 from

> > Middle

> > > School. LOL I think I'll just wait and see where

> > my

> > > body wants to take me. Maybe...it's still early.

> > > Laurie

> > > 5'6 " 228lbs, 4.5 weeks out

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >