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I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so many get involved

and judge on something that we were not part of. I love to read the

posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many diff ways, but I

choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a place that I could find

people who understood my journey, good and bad. I have found it here.

In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all will let it die. I am

praying that those involved will pray for patience, forgiveness and

leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are not part of the

hunan being I am today. I will let the judging come from the big guy

upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days from surgery and I

am excited, I am excited about all of it and I need your support on

why we are here to begin with............I need all you guys and we

all need to to live and let live and keep in mind there are alot of

new people her that need advice, encouragment and hope and it is our

job to do that as was done for us in the beginning.

DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

Cecilia

[Guest guest]

Only 8 days left?!? WOW!! YIPPEE!! Congratulations...you are on your

way.

Tina

> I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so many get

involved

> and judge on something that we were not part of. I love to read

the

> posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many diff ways, but I

> choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a place that I could

find

> people who understood my journey, good and bad. I have found it

here.

> In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all will let it die.

I am

> praying that those involved will pray for patience, forgiveness

and

> leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are not part of the

> hunan being I am today. I will let the judging come from the big

guy

> upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days from surgery and

I

> am excited, I am excited about all of it and I need your support

on

> why we are here to begin with............I need all you guys and

we

> all need to to live and let live and keep in mind there are alot

of

> new people her that need advice, encouragment and hope and it is

our

> job to do that as was done for us in the beginning.

> DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> Cecilia

[Guest guest]

Cecilia, 8 days. I know the excitement you must be

feeling. I am praying for you and I can't wait to

hear that you are out of surgery and recovery. You

know Cecilia, what has happened is unfortunate but I

believe that God allows things to happen for a reason.

I believe that if we realize that none of us are

perfect and we have ALL said things that hurt people

(whether intentional or not intentional) and one way

to start the healing process is to acknowledge that

something we have partaken in has hurt someone and

then apologize. It might not help right away but at

least we have done what we know should be done. I

realize that we have to apologize when we are led of

the spirit and not because we are told to. There is

freedom and liberty in God.

I hope that you will stay with this group Cecilia

because out of all the sisterly/brotherly quarrels

that we have, there is lots of love and compassion

here and yes, we do care about each other. Again, I

believe that this was just a way of God allow us to

reflect that He is not done with any of us and that we

need to constantly be focused on loving our neighbor

as we do ourselves (neighbor meaning people not just

next door). Until we learn to love ourselves then we

are unable to love anyone else. I believe we should

pray for a spirit of compassion, love, patience,

kindness and more importantly we should ask for

endurance for the journeys that are ahead for each and

everyone of us. Stay blessed Cecilia.

Pam Marsh

--- cecilia snickers_95203@...> wrote:

> I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so

> many get involved

> and judge on something that we were not part of. I

> love to read the

> posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many

> diff ways, but I

> choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a place

> that I could find

> people who understood my journey, good and bad. I

> have found it here.

> In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all

> will let it die. I am

> praying that those involved will pray for patience,

> forgiveness and

> leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are

> not part of the

> hunan being I am today. I will let the judging come

> from the big guy

> upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days

> from surgery and I

> am excited, I am excited about all of it and I need

> your support on

> why we are here to begin with............I need all

> you guys and we

> all need to to live and let live and keep in mind

> there are alot of

> new people her that need advice, encouragment and

> hope and it is our

> job to do that as was done for us in the beginning.

> DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> Cecilia

>

>

>

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Thank you Pam!

I have no intentions of leaving this group.

Cecilia

--- Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...>

wrote:

> Cecilia, 8 days. I know the excitement you must be

> feeling. I am praying for you and I can't wait to

> hear that you are out of surgery and recovery. You

> know Cecilia, what has happened is unfortunate but I

> believe that God allows things to happen for a

> reason.

> I believe that if we realize that none of us are

> perfect and we have ALL said things that hurt people

> (whether intentional or not intentional) and one way

> to start the healing process is to acknowledge that

> something we have partaken in has hurt someone and

> then apologize. It might not help right away but at

> least we have done what we know should be done. I

> realize that we have to apologize when we are led of

> the spirit and not because we are told to. There is

> freedom and liberty in God.

>

> I hope that you will stay with this group Cecilia

> because out of all the sisterly/brotherly quarrels

> that we have, there is lots of love and compassion

> here and yes, we do care about each other. Again, I

> believe that this was just a way of God allow us to

> reflect that He is not done with any of us and that

> we

> need to constantly be focused on loving our neighbor

> as we do ourselves (neighbor meaning people not just

> next door). Until we learn to love ourselves then

> we

> are unable to love anyone else. I believe we should

> pray for a spirit of compassion, love, patience,

> kindness and more importantly we should ask for

> endurance for the journeys that are ahead for each

> and

> everyone of us. Stay blessed Cecilia.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- cecilia snickers_95203@...> wrote:

>

> > I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so

> > many get involved

> > and judge on something that we were not part of. I

> > love to read the

> > posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many

> > diff ways, but I

> > choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a

> place

> > that I could find

> > people who understood my journey, good and bad. I

> > have found it here.

> > In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all

> > will let it die. I am

> > praying that those involved will pray for

> patience,

> > forgiveness and

> > leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are

> > not part of the

> > hunan being I am today. I will let the judging

> come

> > from the big guy

> > upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days

> > from surgery and I

> > am excited, I am excited about all of it and I

> need

> > your support on

> > why we are here to begin with............I need

> all

> > you guys and we

> > all need to to live and let live and keep in mind

> > there are alot of

> > new people her that need advice, encouragment and

> > hope and it is our

> > job to do that as was done for us in the

> beginning.

> > DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> > Cecilia

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I do apologize for the name calling. I can only say that was in

defense of my dear friend Francisco. Francisco means more to me than

perhaps anyone I know. He is my twin. I hope in time I can let this

all go. I know that in order to move on in my life I have to leave

this bitterness behind or it will eat me up. I apologize for the

name calling but I cannot apologize for how I feel.

> >

> > > I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so

> > > many get involved

> > > and judge on something that we were not part of. I

> > > love to read the

> > > posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many

> > > diff ways, but I

> > > choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a

> > place

> > > that I could find

> > > people who understood my journey, good and bad. I

> > > have found it here.

> > > In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all

> > > will let it die. I am

> > > praying that those involved will pray for

> > patience,

> > > forgiveness and

> > > leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are

> > > not part of the

> > > hunan being I am today. I will let the judging

> > come

> > > from the big guy

> > > upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days

> > > from surgery and I

> > > am excited, I am excited about all of it and I

> > need

> > > your support on

> > > why we are here to begin with............I need

> > all

> > > you guys and we

> > > all need to to live and let live and keep in mind

> > > there are alot of

> > > new people her that need advice, encouragment and

> > > hope and it is our

> > > job to do that as was done for us in the

> > beginning.

> > > DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> > > Cecilia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

> > Yahoo! Mail

> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the

> > tour:

> > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

, I understand you..I honestly do. I hope you

feel better.

Take care.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> I do apologize for the name calling. I can only say

> that was in

> defense of my dear friend Francisco. Francisco means

> more to me than

> perhaps anyone I know. He is my twin. I hope in time

> I can let this

> all go. I know that in order to move on in my life I

> have to leave

> this bitterness behind or it will eat me up. I

> apologize for the

> name calling but I cannot apologize for how I feel.

>

>

>

> > >

> > > > I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that

> so

> > > > many get involved

> > > > and judge on something that we were not part

> of. I

> > > > love to read the

> > > > posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in

> many

> > > > diff ways, but I

> > > > choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a

> > > place

> > > > that I could find

> > > > people who understood my journey, good and

> bad. I

> > > > have found it here.

> > > > In time this will be old stuff and hopefully

> all

> > > > will let it die. I am

> > > > praying that those involved will pray for

> > > patience,

> > > > forgiveness and

> > > > leave this alone. Name calling and alienation

> are

> > > > not part of the

> > > > hunan being I am today. I will let the judging

> > > come

> > > > from the big guy

> > > > upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8

> days

> > > > from surgery and I

> > > > am excited, I am excited about all of it and I

> > > need

> > > > your support on

> > > > why we are here to begin with............I

> need

> > > all

> > > > you guys and we

> > > > all need to to live and let live and keep in

> mind

> > > > there are alot of

> > > > new people her that need advice, encouragment

> and

> > > > hope and it is our

> > > > job to do that as was done for us in the

> > > beginning.

> > > > DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> > > > Cecilia

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________

> > > Yahoo! Mail

> > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take

> the

> > > tour:

> > > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Pam

I am staying. I need you too much. But I do need time to heal this

wound. Its very deep. I appreciate all you've written and I agree

with you for the most part. Its one thing to forgive and another to

forget. Right now...I can forgive but I cant forget. Francisco will

not come back. He is hurting so badly and so am I. Like I said, he

is my twin and I honestly feel his pain personally and deeply. I

just need time.

Huggles

> > > >

> > > > > I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that

> > so

> > > > > many get involved

> > > > > and judge on something that we were not part

> > of. I

> > > > > love to read the

> > > > > posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in

> > many

> > > > > diff ways, but I

> > > > > choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a

> > > > place

> > > > > that I could find

> > > > > people who understood my journey, good and

> > bad. I

> > > > > have found it here.

> > > > > In time this will be old stuff and hopefully

> > all

> > > > > will let it die. I am

> > > > > praying that those involved will pray for

> > > > patience,

> > > > > forgiveness and

> > > > > leave this alone. Name calling and alienation

> > are

> > > > > not part of the

> > > > > hunan being I am today. I will let the judging

> > > > come

> > > > > from the big guy

> > > > > upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8

> > days

> > > > > from surgery and I

> > > > > am excited, I am excited about all of it and I

> > > > need

> > > > > your support on

> > > > > why we are here to begin with............I

> > need

> > > > all

> > > > > you guys and we

> > > > > all need to to live and let live and keep in

> > mind

> > > > > there are alot of

> > > > > new people her that need advice, encouragment

> > and

> > > > > hope and it is our

> > > > > job to do that as was done for us in the

> > > > beginning.

> > > > > DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> > > > > Cecilia

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________

> > > > Yahoo! Mail

> > > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take

> > the

> > > > tour:

> > > > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

, I understand..I understand all of you and why

you feel the way you do. You know, I believe that in

time, it will all be alright at least I am trusting

that.

Take care.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> Pam

>

> I am staying. I need you too much. But I do need

> time to heal this

> wound. Its very deep. I appreciate all you've

> written and I agree

> with you for the most part. Its one thing to forgive

> and another to

> forget. Right now...I can forgive but I cant forget.

> Francisco will

> not come back. He is hurting so badly and so am I.

> Like I said, he

> is my twin and I honestly feel his pain personally

> and deeply. I

> just need time.

>

> Huggles

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad

> that

> > > so

> > > > > > many get involved

> > > > > > and judge on something that we were not

> part

> > > of. I

> > > > > > love to read the

> > > > > > posts and yes sometimes some are extreme

> in

> > > many

> > > > > > diff ways, but I

> > > > > > choose not to respond. All I ever wanted

> was a

> > > > > place

> > > > > > that I could find

> > > > > > people who understood my journey, good and

> > > bad. I

> > > > > > have found it here.

> > > > > > In time this will be old stuff and

> hopefully

> > > all

> > > > > > will let it die. I am

> > > > > > praying that those involved will pray for

> > > > > patience,

> > > > > > forgiveness and

> > > > > > leave this alone. Name calling and

> alienation

> > > are

> > > > > > not part of the

> > > > > > hunan being I am today. I will let the

> judging

> > > > > come

> > > > > > from the big guy

> > > > > > upstairs. As for my journey right now I am

> 8

> > > days

> > > > > > from surgery and I

> > > > > > am excited, I am excited about all of it

> and I

> > > > > need

> > > > > > your support on

> > > > > > why we are here to begin with............I

> > > need

> > > > > all

> > > > > > you guys and we

> > > > > > all need to to live and let live and keep

> in

> > > mind

> > > > > > there are alot of

> > > > > > new people her that need advice,

> encouragment

>

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[Guest guest]

8 Days!!!! How incredibly exciting!! I'll be thinking

of you!

Pam b

--- cecilia snickers_95203@...> wrote:

> I just read the posts and it was sad. Sad that so

> many get involved

> and judge on something that we were not part of. I

> love to read the

> posts and yes sometimes some are extreme in many

> diff ways, but I

> choose not to respond. All I ever wanted was a place

> that I could find

> people who understood my journey, good and bad. I

> have found it here.

> In time this will be old stuff and hopefully all

> will let it die. I am

> praying that those involved will pray for patience,

> forgiveness and

> leave this alone. Name calling and alienation are

> not part of the

> hunan being I am today. I will let the judging come

> from the big guy

> upstairs. As for my journey right now I am 8 days

> from surgery and I

> am excited, I am excited about all of it and I need

> your support on

> why we are here to begin with............I need all

> you guys and we

> all need to to live and let live and keep in mind

> there are alot of

> new people her that need advice, encouragment and

> hope and it is our

> job to do that as was done for us in the beginning.

> DID I SAY I HAVE ONLY 8 DAYS??????

> Cecilia

>

>

>

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