Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Hi to the Mom of the 22 month old with questions of autistic features: I have two sons w/ complex 1 mito disorder. They also have epilepsy and autism secondary to the mitochondrial disease. We've seen Drs. Shoffner and Whiteman. I am also a nurse practitioner in developmental pediatrics and see and treat children with autism, and a few of these kids have been found to have metabolic disease. . If I may be of assistance in any of your questions regarding your 22 month old son, please email me at stonbuck@... and we can talk. If your child has a place on the autism spectrum, at 22 months, now is the time to start the intensive science-based treatments known to assist with autism WHILE treating the mitochondrial disease. Both need to be addressed, but I find that the mitochondrial disease is usually the primary disorder in 'mito-pdd'. Dr. Marvin Natowicz and Kelley have written and spoken specifically about mitochondrial-related pervasive developmental disorder (a subgroup of autism attributed to mito disease). Best regards, Terri Buckley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 I have been reading all the posts about treatment for autistic spectrum. My daughter is also 22 months and in the autistic spectrum (although not autistic), she has been on her mito cocktail for almost a year and on Carnitor for 1 1/2 years. I did not know there was any treatment for autistic spectrum disorders. She is also starting speech therapy, possible OT, and having a MRI on Tuesday because of her current regression. Can someone please let me know the specific treatments available for autistic spectrum disorders? I just thought these were traits we would have to live with, and hope they don't get worse. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 , I also have a son with mito-PDD, and I agree with Terri that now is the time to start intensive treatment both to augment mitochondrial function and treat the language and behavioral manifestations of PDD. I wish that Evan could have gotten proper medical treatment in the beginning, but it took years to get diagnosed. He started on the mito cocktail minus Carnitor in 1999 (I started him on it when his endo first mentioned mito) and he has not experienced a lasting setback in the past 4 1/2 years. Prior to starting the cocktail he was losing muscle, becoming increasingly fatigued, and experiencing huge setbacks when he got sick. After starting carnitor and nighttime carb loading were added after he was diagnosed with unspecified mito in 2002, and he finally started to put on weight appropriately. He is 12 1/2 now and doing much better despite his two recent ER visits to get his head stapled back together (after bumping it on the fireplace hearth) and for his broken foot (after tripping in the house). All of this happened in the past three weeks--prior to these accidents he had never been to the ER for an injury. On crutches, he is an accident waiting to happen. I pray that he makes it through the 4 weeks without another ER trip. According to Dr. Kelley from Kennedy Krieger (a leading expert on mito PDD), early and careful evaluation and treatment of children with autism "may rescue young children from more severe brain injury". Dr. Kelley thinks that some mito-PDD kids have complex I defects. Here are the diet recommendations for Complex I--"In patients with complex I deficiency, the addition of extra fats to the diet should theoretically result in more energy production. This is because the metabolism of protein and carbohydrate produces electrons that must flow through complex I, which is obviously not working properly in complex I deficiency, but fats produce electrons that in addition to flowing through complex I, also produce electrons that can flow through complex II (bypassing complex I). Therefore, if complexes II, III, IV, and V are working properly, fats should be slightly more effective in energy production. A small clinical study yielded mixed results, with some patients improving and others not." Terri, have your boys' doctors recommended a diet with increased fats? Here is the summary of Dr. Kelley's lecture at the Mitochondria Interest Group Minisymposium in March of 2000. http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/mito/webversion.pdf scroll down to page 12 10. Kelley Kennedy Krieger Insitute, Baltimore, MD~`~s Hopkins University kelle_ri Abnormalities of Mitochondrial Metabolism in Children with Autistic Spectrum Disorders Although developmental delay is a common characteristic of children with disorders of mitochondrial metabolism, classical autism, Asperger syndrome, and pervasive developmental disorder (PDD) have not commonly been associated with mitochondrial disease. Because our institution serves a large number of children with developmental disabilities, we have had the opportunity to diagnose many metabolic diseases among children with autistic spectrum disorders, including defects of organic acid, sterol, and mitochondrial metabolism. Among these, mitochondrial disease is the most common diagnostic category and represents a clinically significant fraction of autistic children. Although we find a variety of autistic phenotypes to have associated mitochondrial abnormalities, the most common is nonspecific PDD, typically of a form that manifests language and cognitive regression or stagnation during the second year. Most surprising among multiplex families is that the biochemical and clinical makers of mitochondrial disease often segregate in an autosomal dominant manner. Although no molecular lesion has yet been found in the autosomal dominant families, the biochemical findings are most consistent with abnormal mitochondrial complex I activity. Moreover, when identified below the age of two years, affected children often respond to therapy designed to augment complex I activity. We propose that, like the basal ganglia, areas of the brain important in language development and personal social interaction are especially vulnerable in the first two years to injury mediated by defects of mitochondrial energy metabolism, and that early and careful evaluation of autistic children for these more subtle mitochondrial disturbances may rescue them from more severe brain injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 > , has been on high dose riboflavin (particularly for the mito GAIII) and has responded well to it. She was on 800mg (400bid) and had little or no fits. Her doc , on a whim, decreased it to 100bid in the winter and became a mess. Crying and 3-4 45min fits a day. We have increased her back to 300am and 200pm and she is good again. Riboflavin in water soluable so whatever is not used is excreted. The only bad thing about it at all it that it turns everything yellow-m poop and pea and it stains very bad. The doc also wants to go on a gluten and casein free (wheat, rye and barley and milk free) diet. We are going to give it a shot. Good luck and I hope this helps, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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