Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 The instructions there are quite clear. For beginners Take 3 cups of coarsely chopped, loosely packed fresh cabbage and put into a juicer. Beginners should not use blenders or a VitaMix, only traditional juicers (my comments: Traditional juicer separates the juice from the solid fiber and what you are left with is just the juice in the glass) Mix it with 1-1/2 cups of distilled or purified water. (my comments: what does " IT " refer to? The juice or the fiber? Or are you supposed to combine the juice and fiber back together again?) Pour into a jar (a quart jar is excellent to use), cover tightly (ensure there is at least 1 inch of space above the mixture), and let it stand at room temperature for 3 days. (my comments: so what exactly is poured into the jar? The cabbage juice + water? Cabbage fiber + water? Cabbage juice + fiber + water?) After 3 days strain off the liquid rejuvelac and discard the cabbage. The initial batch of cabbage rejuvelac takes 3 days to mature, but succeeding batches take 24 hours each. (my comments: The word 'strain' implies you're supposed to remix the separated fiber with the juice after the initial juicing step, is this right?) Finally, some places say seal the jar tightly as here, other say leave it loosely on. Which is it? Thanks, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I mean the instructions on there are not quite clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I mean the instructions on there are not quite clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 > > I mean the instructions on there are not quite clear. LOL. I thought you were going for irony. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Bruce Missed your original post; glad you brought it up again. I have made the cabbage rejuvelac/juice a few times, but my stomach absolutely rejects it so I just settle for acidophilus supplements. It is a great source of lactobacilli, as are most lacto-fermented foods, so it is worth trying. Anyway, I found the instructions confusing until I made it, then they made sense. Like the yogurt process! I'll give you my take on your questions. ******************* > Take 3 cups of coarsely chopped, loosely packed fresh cabbage and put into a juicer. Beginners should not use blenders or a VitaMix, only traditional juicers > (my comments: Traditional juicer separates the juice from the solid fiber and what you are left with is just the juice in the glass) > > Mix it with 1-1/2 cups of distilled or purified water. > (my comments: what does " IT " refer to? The juice or the fiber? Or are you supposed to combine the juice and fiber back together again?) ***************** MY COMMENTS: Well, I didn't bother pulverizing the cabbage in a juicer. I just chopped the cabbage finely. But you could do that extra mangling if you want. My experience is that you need and want the cabbage bits (the juice, if there is any & the fiber) to put into the quart jar for fermentation. I added water after I'd put the cabbage into the fermenting jar, but now that I think of it, you could experiment and add water to the juicer as you are pulverizing the cabbage. How much water to add might be a bit tricky, though; might not need the full amount depending on your volume of cabbage, otherwise the jar would overflow and you need to leave some room at the top for the gasses to escape. ******************** > Pour into a jar (a quart jar is excellent to use), cover tightly (ensure there is at least 1 inch of space above the mixture), and let it stand at room temperature for 3 days. > (my comments: so what exactly is poured into the jar? The cabbage juice + water? Cabbage fiber + water? Cabbage juice + fiber + water?) > ********************* MY COMMENTS: You put the finely chopped (or pulverized in a juicer) cabbage into a jar and add water. Or you can try adding water to the cabbage in the juicer. So you pour everything into the jar. Cabbage bits and cabbage juice (if any) and the water. Everything. But do leave an inch or two of space at the top of the jar so it won't bubble over and flow out onto whatever surface you have the jar on. Makes a big mess... Even leaving space at the top of the jar I still put the jar into a bigger bowl to catch the spillover; and there was always some. ********************* > After 3 days strain off the liquid rejuvelac and discard the cabbage. The initial batch of cabbage rejuvelac takes 3 days to mature, but succeeding batches take 24 hours each. > (my comments: The word 'strain' implies you're supposed to remix the separated fiber with the juice after the initial juicing step, is this right?) > *********************** MY COMMENTS: You want to drink the juice, so you strain the contents of the jar, separating the liquid from the cabbage bits. Dilute the cabbage juice the first few times you try it, by the way. Some people reuse the cabbage bits again; just put the fiber mass back into the jar and add more water to cover but leaving some room at the top of the jar. If you use purple cabbage, you can reuse the chopped cabbage mass until the color is leached out (suggestion from Seth at HealingCrow) then start with a new head of cabbage. If you use green cabbage, then at some point you will want to use a new head of cabbage and start fresh; probably when mold starts showing up. I didn't reuse the cabbage mass when I made it, just pitched it after straining and started with another head of cabbage the next time. I live in the tropical south, so mold is ever-present... ****************** > Finally, some places say seal the jar tightly as here, other say leave it loosely on. Which is it? > ******************* MY COMMENTS: I would leave the lid on loosely; there is plenty of gas produced by the fermentation. You do want to cover the jar to keep stuff from getting into the mix, but you do need to allow room for the gas to escape. And bubble over as well. At least that has been my experience. Good luck. Kim M. SCD 5+ years > Thanks, > > Bruce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Thanks very much, that helped. > > Bruce > > Missed your original post; glad you brought it up again. I have made the cabbage rejuvelac/juice a few times, but my stomach absolutely rejects it so I just settle for acidophilus supplements. It is a great source of lactobacilli, as are most lacto-fermented foods, so it is worth trying. > > Anyway, I found the instructions confusing until I made it, then they made sense. Like the yogurt process! I'll give you my take on your questions. > > > ******************* > > Take 3 cups of coarsely chopped, loosely packed fresh cabbage and put into a juicer. Beginners should not use blenders or a VitaMix, only traditional juicers > > (my comments: Traditional juicer separates the juice from the solid fiber and what you are left with is just the juice in the glass) > > > > Mix it with 1-1/2 cups of distilled or purified water. > > (my comments: what does " IT " refer to? The juice or the fiber? Or are you supposed to combine the juice and fiber back together again?) > ***************** > > MY COMMENTS: Well, I didn't bother pulverizing the cabbage in a juicer. I just chopped the cabbage finely. But you could do that extra mangling if you want. My experience is that you need and want the cabbage bits (the juice, if there is any & the fiber) to put into the quart jar for fermentation. > > I added water after I'd put the cabbage into the fermenting jar, but now that I think of it, you could experiment and add water to the juicer as you are pulverizing the cabbage. How much water to add might be a bit tricky, though; might not need the full amount depending on your volume of cabbage, otherwise the jar would overflow and you need to leave some room at the top for the gasses to escape. > > ******************** > > Pour into a jar (a quart jar is excellent to use), cover tightly (ensure there is at least 1 inch of space above the mixture), and let it stand at room temperature for 3 days. > > (my comments: so what exactly is poured into the jar? The cabbage juice + water? Cabbage fiber + water? Cabbage juice + fiber + water?) > > > ********************* > > MY COMMENTS: You put the finely chopped (or pulverized in a juicer) cabbage into a jar and add water. Or you can try adding water to the cabbage in the juicer. So you pour everything into the jar. Cabbage bits and cabbage juice (if any) and the water. Everything. But do leave an inch or two of space at the top of the jar so it won't bubble over and flow out onto whatever surface you have the jar on. Makes a big mess... Even leaving space at the top of the jar I still put the jar into a bigger bowl to catch the spillover; and there was always some. > > ********************* > > After 3 days strain off the liquid rejuvelac and discard the cabbage. The initial batch of cabbage rejuvelac takes 3 days to mature, but succeeding batches take 24 hours each. > > (my comments: The word 'strain' implies you're supposed to remix the separated fiber with the juice after the initial juicing step, is this right?) > > > *********************** > > MY COMMENTS: You want to drink the juice, so you strain the contents of the jar, separating the liquid from the cabbage bits. Dilute the cabbage juice the first few times you try it, by the way. Some people reuse the cabbage bits again; just put the fiber mass back into the jar and add more water to cover but leaving some room at the top of the jar. If you use purple cabbage, you can reuse the chopped cabbage mass until the color is leached out (suggestion from Seth at HealingCrow) then start with a new head of cabbage. If you use green cabbage, then at some point you will want to use a new head of cabbage and start fresh; probably when mold starts showing up. > > I didn't reuse the cabbage mass when I made it, just pitched it after straining and started with another head of cabbage the next time. I live in the tropical south, so mold is ever-present... > > ****************** > > Finally, some places say seal the jar tightly as here, other say leave it loosely on. Which is it? > > > ******************* > > MY COMMENTS: I would leave the lid on loosely; there is plenty of gas produced by the fermentation. You do want to cover the jar to keep stuff from getting into the mix, but you do need to allow room for the gas to escape. And bubble over as well. At least that has been my experience. > > Good luck. > > Kim M. > SCD 5+ years > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bruce > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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