Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 wow, so many answers so soon.... first, here are the links to the vitamins. http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products&productid=96 http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products§ion=2&pr\ oductid=77 I will stop the yogurt until I can find a good starter. The chicken I am using did not say anything about added broth. Just boneless, skinless thighs. Would it be required for broth to be listed? One of you mentioned adding butter to the chicken soup?? just mix it in? Does it matter salted or unsalted? Anything I can do to get my weight up or hold it steady would be great. I have been drinking welches 100% grape mixed at least 50/50, usually more like water 60/ juice 40. lots of water and avoiding tylenol as much as possible. I think i will continue scrambled eggs as they don't seem to bother me. On a side note. I do have a little more energy this morning and slept very well last night. This morning I did not have the urgency that i usually do after waking up, but when i did go I passed a very strange looking mucus covered " thing " . was strange. I sincerely appreciate all the responses so quickly and will keep all of you posted on my progress. I have a science based degree and the logic behind this book just made instant sense to me when I first read it a year ago. I know it will work for me. I just have to get it fine tuned. I still remember the day my G.I. said " you have Crohn's disease. " My wife and I looked at each other like " what's that? " then my wife said " well, what should he eat? " I am not kidding when I tell you he said " Doesn't matter, Good luck " and walked out of the room. wow. travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 > wow, so many answers so soon.... first, here are the links to the > vitamins. > > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products&productid=96 > > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products§ion=2&pr\ oductid=77 > > I will stop the yogurt until I can find a good starter. The chicken > I am using did not say anything about added broth. Just boneless, > skinless thighs. Would it be required for broth to be listed? One of > you mentioned adding butter to the chicken soup?? just mix it in? > Does it matter salted or unsalted? nope. another thing to add in is homemade mayonnaise - like the French add aioli mayonnaise to their fish stews. > Anything I can do to get my weight up or hold it steady would be > great. I have been drinking welches 100% grape mixed at least 50/50, > usually more like water 60/ juice 40. lots of water and avoiding > tylenol as much as possible. I think i will continue scrambled eggs > as they don't seem to bother me. add in avocados. > > On a side note. I do have a little more energy this morning and > slept very well last night. This morning I did not have the urgency > that i usually do after waking up, but when i did go I passed a very > strange looking mucus covered " thing " . was strange. mucous is an inflammatory response. this may be part of die off, or it may indicate that something you are eating is causing inflammation. > > I sincerely appreciate all the responses so quickly and will keep > all of you posted on my progress. I have a science based degree and > the logic behind this book just made instant sense to me when I > first read it a year ago. I know it will work for me. I just have to > get it fine tuned. I still remember the day my G.I. said " you have > Crohn's disease. " My wife and I looked at each other like " what's > that? " then my wife said " well, what should he eat? " I am not > kidding when I tell you he said " Doesn't matter, Good luck " and > walked out of the room. wow. > travis > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I also have a science background, and my GI said the same thing to me. At the time, everything I ate went right through me, and I was already controlling my symptoms with diet. I figured what goes in has to affect what goes out!!I went home and googled " diet and IBD " and there was a lot of information and read it all. I settled on SCD and after 6 months I am so grateful. Chicken is tricky because not everything is on the label. I think some brands are legal- if someone would print them. Otherwise, I look up the brand on the internet to see if there is nutritional information and only pick brands that say no additives at all. I never added butter to soup, but I would not cook it in the soup as it may curdle? just add it right before you eat it and it will melt in. I also passed some strange things at the beginning- may be " die off " . PJ PJ > > wow, so many answers so soon.... first, here are the links to the vitamins. > > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products&productid=96 > > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products§ion=2&pr\ oductid=77 > > I will stop the yogurt until I can find a good starter. The chicken I am using did not say anything about added broth. Just boneless, skinless thighs. Would it be required for broth to be listed? One of you mentioned adding butter to the chicken soup?? just mix it in? Does it matter salted or unsalted? Anything I can do to get my weight up or hold it steady would be great. I have been drinking welches 100% grape mixed at least 50/50, usually more like water 60/ juice 40. lots of water and avoiding tylenol as much as possible. I think i will continue scrambled eggs as they don't seem to bother me. > > On a side note. I do have a little more energy this morning and slept very well last night. This morning I did not have the urgency that i usually do after waking up, but when i did go I passed a very strange looking mucus covered " thing " . was strange. > > I sincerely appreciate all the responses so quickly and will keep all of you posted on my progress. I have a science based degree and the logic behind this book just made instant sense to me when I first read it a year ago. I know it will work for me. I just have to get it fine tuned. I still remember the day my G.I. said " you have Crohn's disease. " My wife and I looked at each other like " what's that? " then my wife said " well, what should he eat? " I am not kidding when I tell you he said " Doesn't matter, Good luck " and walked out of the room. wow. > travis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 The Nature Made B Complex has a few illegals. The ones I recognize are dried yeasts and croscarmellose. There is a list of legal/illegal ingredients at PecanBread.com. http://pecanbread.com/p/legal_illegal_a-c.htm Carol CD 21 yrs SCD 5 yrs INGREDIENTS Dibasic Calcium Phosphate, Ascorbic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Dried Yeasts, Cellulose Gel, Niacinamide, Riboflavin, Croscarmellose Sodium, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Magnesium Stearate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Polyethylene Glycol, Folic Acid, Biotin, Cyanocobalamin. From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of wow, so many answers so soon.... first, here are the links to the vitamins. http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products & productid=96 http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products & section=2 & productid=77 _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I forgot to add that many with bowel disease are B12 deficient because we do not have what is called Intrinsic Factor that is needed for B12 absorption. I had at least 9 of the symptoms listed for B12 deficiency. I now self inject 1cc of methylcobalamin once a month as I could never find any legal sub-lingual B12 (all had sorbitol or mannitol in them).Here is info on B12: Carol Borderline B12 deficiency can sometimes cause symptoms so dramatic that B12 deficiency may be rejected as a possible cause because it may be thought that such symptoms wouldn't be caused by a mere borderline deficiency. B12 deficiency sometimes goes undiagnosed until the symptoms become moderate to severe, although this is not necessarily the fault of the medical profession. The symptoms often come on so slowly that a B12-deficient individual may become accustomed to them and not complain until the symptoms become severe. An abnormally low level of vitamin B12 (cobalamin) is a factor in many disorders. The absorption of dietary vitamin B12 occurs in the small intestine and requires a secretion from the stomach known as intrinsic factor. If intrinsic factor is deficient, absorption of vitamin B12 is severely diminished. Vitamin B12 deficiency impairs the body’s ability to make blood, accelerates blood cell destruction, and damages the nervous system. The result is pernicious anemia (PA). In the classical definition, PA refers only to B12 deficiency anemia caused by a lack of intrinsic factor. True PA is probably an autoimmune disease. The immune system destroys cells in the stomach that secrete intrinsic factor. Many people with PA have both chronic inflammation of the stomach lining, called atrophic gastritis, and antibodies that fight their intrinsic factor-secreting cells.1 The term pernicious anemia is sometimes used colloquially to refer to any anemia caused by vitamin B12 deficiency. Vitamin B12 deficiency can be due to malabsorption of dietary B12 despite normal levels of intrinsic factor. For example, celiac disease and Crohn’s disease may cause B12 malabsorption, which can lead to anemia. Less common causes of B12 deficiency include gastrointestinal surgery, pancreatic disease, intestinal parasites, and certain drugs. Pregnancy, hyperthyroidism, and advanced stages of cancer may increase the body’s requirement for B12, sometimes leading to a deficiency state. Low stomach acid, known as hypochlorhydria, interferes with the absorption of B12 from food but not from supplements. Aging is associated with a decrease in the normal secretion of stomach acid. As a result, some older people with normal levels of intrinsic factor and with no clear cause for malabsorption will become vitamin B12-deficient unless they take at least a few micrograms per day of vitamin B12 from supplements. Low stomach acid will resolve with the SCDiet. It is often caused by Candida overgrowth and gut disbiosis. A healthy typical body requires very little vitamin b12 or cobalamin and most of us get sufficient quantities of it in our normal meals to satisfy our daily requirements. Although it's rare to see vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms it can still be useful to be able to recognize them just in case. If you are a typical person and do not have intestinal disease you likely do not have this problem. It is rare. Many doctors will miss you! Normal folk are most vulnerable to vitamin b12 deficiency if you've vegan and don't use the available dietary supplements containing vitamin b12. Infants breast-feeding from vegan mothers can also be at risk. Vitamin b12 supplements are generally regarded as safe because there are few known adverse effects of overdose. The main symptom that arises from vitamin b12 deficiency is a type of anaemia that causes you to feel tired, weak and lethargic. You might also feel nauseous, constipated and become very flatulent (gas). You may also lose your appetite and suffer weight loss. More severe cases can give vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms, which include: Burning sensation of the tongue Numbness or tingling in the hands or feet Insomnia Loss of memory Dizziness Lack of balance Depression Digestive problems Dizziness Liver enlargement Eye problems Headaches Mental Illness and Hallucinations Inflamed tongue Breathing difficulties Loss of memory Palpitations Neurological damage Worsening of autistic symptoms Tinitus or ringing in the ears Vitamin b12 is commonly found in animal products like eggs, dairy, fish, meat and animal organs. B12 is rarely found in vegetables, which is why vegetarians and especially vegans who don't eat dairy products or meat, are especially at risk. If you fall into this category then you should consider using vitamin supplements containing b12. The problem is, only the injections and nasal sprays will be best absorbed. The gut does not absorb the vitamin B12 taken orally that well. Most sublingual preparations are not SCD compliant and contain illegal sugars and starches. It's also important to realize that the operation of vitamin b12 is dependent on sufficient quantities of other vitamins being present in your body so you should take care to get a balanced diet to avoid vitamin b12 deficiency symptoms. This is why a good B complex and a good multi-vitamin is needed. Just taking b12 alone is not a good idea. Remember: Elaine G recognized that this is a big concern with those of us who have a " Vicious cycle " . She tells us that we need to have blood serum levels that are at a " high normal " . Many doctors do not realize that even borderline deficiency can cause significant problems. They may see that it is in range at a " low normal " and think that this is adequate when it is simply not. I also suggest that one does not take their vitamins before having these tests. One could get a false negative, when in reality you are truly suffering from this. I know...my doctor originally missed me! I took my B's before the test. I had to advocate for myself telling her and insisting that she give me B12. I finally got my GI doctor to help me. This is when my mental health began to improve and that horrible burning in my mouth (especially at night) vanished. My energy improved too. I only had to do this therapy for 9 months. Now that my gut is healed I am not having the symptoms any more of B12 deficiency. So I know now that my good gut bugs are making adequate amounts now, and that I am able to utilize it. Hope this helps others! God Bless every ones healing journey! 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Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I use unsalted Land of Lakes butter. I was using Great Value brand and found it had a coloring agent added. I don't think it's illegal, but why? So, I switched. I just add a tablespoon of butter to each bowl of chicken soup I eat. Scrambled eggs cooked in a tablespoon of butter and a healthy serving of freshly grated cheese and pinch of salt/pepper is my favorite breakfast (after banana pancakes topped with cooked apples). The cod liver oil looks ok, but the B Vitamin has dried yeasts in it. I didn't even finish the rest of the ingredients. It's a definate no-no. Check out www.lucyskitchen.com... she has a legal B, multi, and calcium. And, she's got the legal Acidophilus you can take while you are waiting on legal starter which you can get from her too. It's hard to tell if fruit juices are tolerated. I did ok with OJ at first but not the grape juice. The grape juice caused immediate pain even when diluted 100%. If you think something you are currently eating is holding you back, stop it for a few days. If there are no changes, it wasn't that. Congrats on feeling better!!! My doc said the same crap about diet not playing a role. She told me I'd be in surgery within a year if I didn't get on Humira or Remicaid and here I am almost 2 years later med free and my symptoms are very very mild. Good Luck!!!! Misty Kimble Cd - no meds SCd - 22 months > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products&productid=96 > > http://www.naturemade.com/ProductDatabase/prd_prod.asp?tab=Products§ion=2&pr\ oductid=77 > > I will stop the yogurt until I can find a good starter. The chicken I am using did not say anything about added broth. Just boneless, skinless thighs. Would it be required for broth to be listed? One of you mentioned adding butter to the chicken soup?? just mix it in? Does it matter salted or unsalted? Anything I can do to get my weight up or hold it steady would be great. I have been drinking welches 100% grape mixed at least 50/50, usually more like water 60/ juice 40. lots of water and avoiding tylenol as much as possible. I think i will continue scrambled eggs as they don't seem to bother me. > travis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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