Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 For those interested in changing the mind of Beth or the other Richmond staffers. This isn't all, I didn't cut the part about how what is left of our itnestine can only absorb certain types of proteins: The average*** person (the ?normal?, NON-gastric bypass patient) needs 50-65 grams*** of protein each day. Considering malabsorption of at least 50%**, the RNY patient will need 100-140 grams per day minimum, which cannot be eaten as food because of the small size of the pouch. **Note: Depending on the length of bypass, the RNY patient may absorb as little as 25% or less. But it is normally agreed that even a short proximal will not absorb more than 50%. ***Note: Adults need a minimum of 1 gram of protein for every kilogram of body weight per day to keep from slowly breaking down their own tissues. That?s about 8 grams of protein for every 20 lbs. Malnourished, septic, pregnant, injured or burned patients will require more protein, in the order of 1.5-2.0 g/kg daily. Extra protein is also required after surgical procedures and illness. According to Sally Myers, RD and regular contributor on nutritional issues to the WLS-related newsletter ?Beyond Change?: ?How to determine grams of protein you need daily when not yet at ideal weight: Subtract 120 from your current weight. Multiply that answer by ..25 and add it to 120. Base your protein needs on that number. Extra protein is not needed for fat mass.? Around the world, millions of people don?t get enough protein. This protein malnutrition leads to the condition known as kwashiorkor. Lack of protein can cause growth failure loss of muscle mass decreased immunity weakening of the heart and respiratory system death Clinical signs and symptoms of malabsorption and maldigestion [unconverted Image] __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 This is almost word for word what we learned at UCLA too! The 100 grams I told you all was her easy calculation. Protein is so important for life!!!!!!! Healing, thnking, everything centers around protein in the body. Thank You!!!!!! LLLORY@... wrote: For those interested in changing the mind of Beth orthe other Richmond staffers. This isn't all, I didn'tcut the part about how what is left of our itnestinecan only absorb certain types of proteins:The average*** person (the ?normal?, NON-gastricbypass patient) needs 50-65 grams*** of protein eachday. Considering malabsorption of at least 50%**, theRNY patient will need 100-140 grams per day minimum,which cannot be eaten as food because of the smallsize of the pouch.**Note: Depending on the length of bypass, the RNYpatient may absorb as little as 25% or less. But it isnormally agreed that even a short proximal will notabsorb more than 50%.***Note: Adults need a minimum of 1 gram of proteinfor every kilogram of body weight per day to keep fromslowly breaking down their own tissues. That?s about 8grams of protein for every 20 lbs. Malnourished,septic, pregnant, injured or burned patients willrequire more protein, in the order of 1.5-2.0 g/kgdaily. Extra protein is also required after surgicalprocedures and illness. According to Sally Myers, RD and regular contributoron nutritional issues to the WLS-related newsletter?Beyond Change?: ?How to determine grams of proteinyou need daily when not yet at ideal weight: Subtract120 from your current weight. Multiply that answer by.25 and add it to 120. Base your protein needs on thatnumber. Extra protein is not needed for fat mass.? Around the world, millions of people don?t get enoughprotein. This protein malnutrition leads to thecondition known as kwashiorkor.Lack of protein can causegrowth failureloss of muscle massdecreased immunityweakening of the heart and respiratory systemdeath Clinical signs and symptoms of malabsorption andmaldigestion [unconverted Image]__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I really did not cut and paste as much of that post as I should have. My four year old is bugging me to put together his hot wheels track. LOL. I would recommend to anyone interested to join OSSG protein and read the entire file. It is LOOOONG. Good info, though. I will take it next time I go to Fremont, and ask if they think it is valid. Laurie > For those interested in changing the mind of Beth or > the other Richmond staffers. This isn't all, I didn't > cut the part about how what is left of our itnestine > can only absorb certain types of proteins: > > The average*** person (the ?normal?, NON-gastric > bypass patient) needs 50-65 grams*** of protein each > day. Considering malabsorption of at least 50%**, the > RNY patient will need 100-140 grams per day minimum, > which cannot be eaten as food because of the small > size of the pouch. > > **Note: Depending on the length of bypass, the RNY > patient may absorb as little as 25% or less. But it is > normally agreed that even a short proximal will not > absorb more than 50%. > > ***Note: Adults need a minimum of 1 gram of protein > for every kilogram of body weight per day to keep from > slowly breaking down their own tissues. That?s about 8 > grams of protein for every 20 lbs. Malnourished, > septic, pregnant, injured or burned patients will > require more protein, in the order of 1.5-2.0 g/kg > daily. Extra protein is also required after surgical > procedures and illness. > > According to Sally Myers, RD and regular contributor > on nutritional issues to the WLS-related newsletter > ?Beyond Change?: ?How to determine grams of protein > you need daily when not yet at ideal weight: Subtract > 120 from your current weight. Multiply that answer by > .25 and add it to 120. Base your protein needs on that > number. Extra protein is not needed for fat mass.? > > Around the world, millions of people don?t get enough > protein. This protein malnutrition leads to the > condition known as kwashiorkor. > > Lack of protein can cause > > growth failure > > loss of muscle mass > > decreased immunity > > weakening of the heart and respiratory system > > death > > Clinical signs and symptoms of malabsorption and > maldigestion > > [unconverted Image] > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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