Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. Just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I agree. I was told I had " anxiety " and that was causing me to have IBS. I was over 50 and had never had symptoms like that before in my life. I thought it was odd that it would do this after no other history. My doc gave me an antidepressant that made me feel horrible and I had worse D than ever. I had to stop taking it. As a " precaution " he told me to get a colonoscopy-I was over 50 so I had to be screened. This showed IBD. As much as I hate the actual diagnosis, I still resent that he assumed it was all in my head. I am convinced that for me, since I had no prior history, the bowel issues preceded the anxiety. I don't think he did the wrong thing at first, but I don't think he would have gone there had he really known me. PJ > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > Just an observation. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil.Now that I think about it, I also had terrible anxiety around the time my symptoms started showing up, and it hasn't come back since going on the diet. I guess it's pretty common. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 htp is as potent as prozac and natural - also l-tyrptophan (found in warm turkey etc) comes in legal pills and will 'chill out " your insides, as well as you eileen 21 months scd > > > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > > Just an observation. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Eileen,What is 'htp'? My husband has needed to go back on a course of steroids and is now feeling rather irritable and anxious. It would be great to find something to help counter those side effects, if possible.Amelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > Just an observation. > > You're right that there is a connection between the gut and how you feel mentally. Most of the serotonin in our bodies is manufactured in the gut. I don't remember where I read this, but this article says it too: " The enterochromaffin (EC) cells constitute the largest endocrine cell population in the gastrointestinal tract...The main secretory product of EC cells is serotonin and the EC cells account for more than 90% of all serotonin synthesized in the body. " (this is from page 65 of this link: http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/suppl_2/S63.pdf ) By the way, good for you for getting off Paxil. I was unable to get off antidepressants for 19 years, and they caused me all sorts of problems. I finally freed myself 21 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I recently had a lot of anxiety and stress in my life and it coincided with a bad flare up. The brain-body connection (especially insofar as the gut is concerned) is very true and relaxation techniques helped me a lot. > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > Just an observation. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I am so glad to see someone else understands this - I used to think I was going mad and then when I was physically well again I would feel mentally well. I haven't read BTVC yet as I can't get the book in australia, but I'm reading a cook book written by an australian who follows the diet. How long were you guys on the diet before you felt a difference and do you find it hard to go off so much - I do??? I still have pain in stomach due to ulceration, I'm hoping that will ease soon, given medication and diet. > > > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > > Just an observation. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 It's online here - don't know who put it up and whether it is approved or not - but it is really helpful. Plus you can download it and use search function. > I haven't read BTVC yet as I can't get the book in australia, but > I'm reading a cook book written by an australian who follows the diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 That is, here:http://www.scribd.com/doc/11844050/Breaking-the-Vicious-Cycle-by-the-late-Elaine\-Gottschall#On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Mara Schiffren wrote:It's online here - don't know who put it up and whether it is approvedor not - but it is really helpful. Plus you can download it and usesearch function.I haven't read BTVC yet as I can't get the book in australia, but I'm reading a cook book written by an australian who follows the diet.------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 At 09:15 PM 11/9/2009, you wrote: I am so glad to see someone else understands this - I used to think I was going mad and then when I was physically well again I would feel mentally well. It's altogether typical. And stress can affect your gut -- my Mom died on 29 October, and my gut has not been happy with the stress beforehand and afterwards. I haven't read BTVC yet as I can't get the book in australia, but I'm reading a cook book written by an australian who follows the diet. You can order it from Lucy's Kitchen Shoppe... shipping from the US isn't cheap. Please note that a couple of the things recommended in that cook book, like the commercial broths, are not SCD. Or, perhaps, more correctly, it may be that the brand in Australia is potentially legal, but the same brand at my local Whole Foods is not. THe book is also available here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11844050/Breaking-the-Vicious-Cycle-by-the-late-Elaine-Gottschall or if Yahoo breaks that long URL, here: http://tinyurl.com/nqksb7 I don't know if this copy is legally authorized, but it is helpful to have the book available online. How long were you guys on the diet before you felt a difference and do you find it hard to go off so much - I do??? Well, I was a chocoholic and a starchaholic. I could eat an entire bar of semi-sweet baking chocolate in an afternoon. A favorite snack was whole wheat pasta (dry) dipped in enough butter to pick up some salt, and crunched. I would fix bowls of brown rice and gravy to eat. Or pasta and sauce. I'd eat a peanut butter and brown sugar sandwich on whole wheat bread. With what I know now about how all of the above can feed the bad bugs, I don't wonder I was having a horrid time with both my gut and my emotions. I admit, I kind of inched into it. I gave up my dry pasta snack and reduced the chocolate. I added SCD yogurt. I ate rice and pasta only at supper and stuck to meat or eggs or cheese and cooked veggies for breakfast and lunch. Gradually, I got rid of the rice and pasta at supper, replacing it with more cooked vegetables. The chocolate (profound sigh) was the last to go. Then I ended up in the hospital for emergency gall bladder surgery, and there wasn't a darn thing I was willing to eat on their menu. Harry made me SCD gelatin, and that was it. (My husband is NOT a cook.) So when I got home, I concluded that I had done intro diet with a vengeance. But then I discovered, to my dismay, that I couldn't just dive in to SCD foods the way I wanted to. I ended up stuck with beef roast, soft boiled eggs, pork roast, and steamed zucchini for more weeks than I want to think about. I can't say I enjoyed it. But, I was seeing very positive results, like feeling I needed to go, and being able to get up from whatever I was doing, walk to the bathroom, and poop, without having a mess in my underwear because of the urgency. Since I was moving VERY slow because of the surgery, this represented an AMAZING change. At this point, I would find it hard to go back to eating the way I did before SCD. Just typing what I used to eat makes me somewhat nauseous. One day, I hope to add real chocolate back in. I don't doubt that it sounds impossible to you at this juncture -- it sure did to me eight years ago! -- but I no longer crave the breads and starches and sugars that I once used as the primary part of my diet. You CAN do it! I still have pain in stomach due to ulceration, I'm hoping that will ease soon, given medication and diet. It should! Keep in mind that you didn't get sick overnight, and it will probably take awhile to heal. Make sure you keep a food diary. (If you don't know what that is, ask!) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Thanks so much Marilyn for your help, I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, but I still have my toast in the morning - on yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my problem has always been yeast so I make sure there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its good to talk about her with people and plan something nice to do that makes you happy everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. > >I am so glad to see someone else understands > >this - I used to think I was going mad and then > >when I was physically well again I would feel mentally well. > > It's altogether typical. And stress can affect > your gut -- my Mom died on 29 October, and my gut > has not been happy with the stress beforehand and afterwards. > > >I haven't read BTVC yet as I can't get the book > >in australia, but I'm reading a cook book > >written by an australian who follows the diet. > > You can order it from Lucy's Kitchen Shoppe... > shipping from the US isn't cheap. Please note > that a couple of the things recommended in that > cook book, like the commercial broths, are not > SCD. Or, perhaps, more correctly, it may be that > the brand in Australia is potentially legal, but > the same brand at my local Whole Foods is not. > > THe book is also available here: > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/11844050/Breaking-the-Vicious-Cycle-by-the-late-Elaine\ -Gottschall > > or if Yahoo breaks that long URL, here: > > http://tinyurl.com/nqksb7 > > I don't know if this copy is legally authorized, > but it is helpful to have the book available online. > > >How long were you guys on the diet before you > >felt a difference and do you find it hard to go off so much - I do??? > > Well, I was a chocoholic and a starchaholic. I > could eat an entire bar of semi-sweet baking > chocolate in an afternoon. A favorite snack was > whole wheat pasta (dry) dipped in enough butter > to pick up some salt, and crunched. I would fix > bowls of brown rice and gravy to eat. Or pasta > and sauce. I'd eat a peanut butter and brown > sugar sandwich on whole wheat bread. > > With what I know now about how all of the above > can feed the bad bugs, I don't wonder I was > having a horrid time with both my gut and my emotions. > > I admit, I kind of inched into it. I gave up my > dry pasta snack and reduced the chocolate. I > added SCD yogurt. I ate rice and pasta only at > supper and stuck to meat or eggs or cheese and > cooked veggies for breakfast and lunch. > Gradually, I got rid of the rice and pasta at > supper, replacing it with more cooked vegetables. > The chocolate (profound sigh) was the last to go. > Then I ended up in the hospital for emergency > gall bladder surgery, and there wasn't a darn > thing I was willing to eat on their menu. Harry > made me SCD gelatin, and that was it. (My husband > is NOT a cook.) So when I got home, I concluded > that I had done intro diet with a vengeance. But > then I discovered, to my dismay, that I couldn't > just dive in to SCD foods the way I wanted to. I > ended up stuck with beef roast, soft boiled eggs, > pork roast, and steamed zucchini for more weeks than I want to think about. > > I can't say I enjoyed it. But, I was seeing very > positive results, like feeling I needed to go, > and being able to get up from whatever I was > doing, walk to the bathroom, and poop, without > having a mess in my underwear because of the > urgency. Since I was moving VERY slow because of > the surgery, this represented an AMAZING change. > > At this point, I would find it hard to go back to > eating the way I did before SCD. Just typing what > I used to eat makes me somewhat nauseous. One > day, I hope to add real chocolate back in. I > don't doubt that it sounds impossible to you at > this juncture -- it sure did to me eight years > ago! -- but I no longer crave the breads and > starches and sugars that I once used as the primary part of my diet. > > You CAN do it! > > >I still have pain in stomach due to ulceration, > >I'm hoping that will ease soon, given medication and diet. > > It should! Keep in mind that you didn't get sick > overnight, and it will probably take awhile to > heal. Make sure you keep a food diary. (If you don't know what that is, ask!) > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Absolutely my experience as well. I've experienced mild anxiety and a definite dip in mood with intestinal distension. I used to try to tell myself that I must have felt down first, and then experienced an aggravation as a result, but now I'm very clear that the intestinal changes affect my mood, and very rapidly so, much more than the other way around. SO glad to have finally found a way to address this, and to be able to eat without anxiety about the after-effects!! To be able to enjoy food and eating again - priceless!! (Had to get the gratitude off my chest :^) Lilian > > > > > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > > > Just an observation. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 At 08:04 PM 11/10/2009, you wrote: I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, but I still have my toast in the morning - on yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. I would switch to an almond flour muffin for your breakfast. I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. Did you know that craving chocolate can mean low magnesium? You may want to check that. If you decide to supplement magnesium, go with magnesium glycinate, which seems to absorb better, and make sure there are no illegals. I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my problem has always been yeast so I make sure there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. Starches and sugars feed the bad bacteria and the yeast. That's why we eliminate them. There's a mock mac-n-cheese recipe floating around the list which is a good substitute. Lentils are advanced, but would be better than rice. The problem is that you need to get off the illegals, and if you allow yourself to sneak them, then it will be hard to stay 100%. It's one little illegal with breakfast, and one little illegal for a snack, and one little illegal for lunch... and pretty soon, you've one little illegaled yourself right off SCD, and then you'll say it doesn't work. What I did, deliberately, and intentionally, was eliminate an illegal at least every week. And I did not allow myself to ever, ever eat it again, once it was eliminated. I haven't touched pasta since I eliminated it as a snack. And so forth. It's hard.... very hard. But the results are more than worth the effort. I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its good to talk about her with people and plan something nice to do that makes you happy everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. My sister's plane should be landing in a few minutes, and my niece will be arriving tomorrow. Mom's memorial will be on Thursday at 1pm. We plan to celebrate her life, not mourn her death. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I support Marilyn on this. There is no way to do SCD while eating illegals. Even a little bit is a bacteria feast. I was not a " junkaholic " - in fact, I was kidded for being a health food nut. I was probably the last person anyone would have decided would have bowel issues. About 9 months before I got sick, I tried to improve my diet by adding more " healthy grains " - whole wheat, brown rice, flax..etc. As a result I ate less protein. In retrospect, I was increasing the food supply to whatever bad bacteria were in my gut. I was eating " healthy food " , but the bugs were having a feast. Do I miss my favorites? Of course I do, but when I read about SCD, and studied it, I decided to go 100%. I admit that sometimes I dream about eating illegals, and when I wake up, I'm glad it's just a dream. It's just not worth it, even in small amounts. Believe you can do it!! PJ > >I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, > >but I still have my toast in the morning - on > >yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. > > I would switch to an almond flour muffin for your breakfast. > > >I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little > >dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. > > Did you know that craving chocolate can mean low > magnesium? You may want to check that. If you > decide to supplement magnesium, go with magnesium > glycinate, which seems to absorb better, and make sure there are no illegals. > > >I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll > >probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my > >problem has always been yeast so I make sure > >there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. > > Starches and sugars feed the bad bacteria and the > yeast. That's why we eliminate them. There's a > mock mac-n-cheese recipe floating around the list > which is a good substitute. Lentils are advanced, > but would be better than rice. > > The problem is that you need to get off the > illegals, and if you allow yourself to sneak > them, then it will be hard to stay 100%. It's one > little illegal with breakfast, and one little > illegal for a snack, and one little illegal for > lunch... and pretty soon, you've one little > illegaled yourself right off SCD, and then you'll say it doesn't work. > > What I did, deliberately, and intentionally, was > eliminate an illegal at least every week. And I > did not allow myself to ever, ever eat it again, > once it was eliminated. I haven't touched pasta > since I eliminated it as a snack. And so forth. > > It's hard.... very hard. But the results are more than worth the effort. > > >I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost > >mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its > >good to talk about her with people and plan > >something nice to do that makes you happy > >everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. > > My sister's plane should be landing in a few > minutes, and my niece will be arriving tomorrow. > Mom's memorial will be on Thursday at 1pm. We > plan to celebrate her life, not mourn her death. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 PJ, I wanna just commend you on such a beautiful and honest reply. Thank you.. you warmed my heart and brought a major smile to my face. Thank you! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thanks Marilyn and PJ, You give me encouragement to keep going. I probably just have to plan a bit more - so I don't get stuck in a situation where i don't have anything to eat - thats what i get nervous about because I am underweight and need to put weight on. Like you PJ, I was a grains person, eating the healthy brown rice, muesli, brown bread, health food store muffins, gluten free pasta - thinking I was doing the right thing - now I'm eating more meat and even bacon! I'm also hoping that the diet improves my allergies - I get hayfever really badly and dust allergies and allergic to cats. Has anyone experienced a reduction in allergies while on the diet? Marilyn, I hope the celebration of your mums life goes really well on Thursday. Bibi > > >I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, > > >but I still have my toast in the morning - on > > >yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. > > > > I would switch to an almond flour muffin for your breakfast. > > > > >I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little > > >dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. > > > > Did you know that craving chocolate can mean low > > magnesium? You may want to check that. If you > > decide to supplement magnesium, go with magnesium > > glycinate, which seems to absorb better, and make sure there are no illegals. > > > > >I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll > > >probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my > > >problem has always been yeast so I make sure > > >there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. > > > > Starches and sugars feed the bad bacteria and the > > yeast. That's why we eliminate them. There's a > > mock mac-n-cheese recipe floating around the list > > which is a good substitute. Lentils are advanced, > > but would be better than rice. > > > > The problem is that you need to get off the > > illegals, and if you allow yourself to sneak > > them, then it will be hard to stay 100%. It's one > > little illegal with breakfast, and one little > > illegal for a snack, and one little illegal for > > lunch... and pretty soon, you've one little > > illegaled yourself right off SCD, and then you'll say it doesn't work. > > > > What I did, deliberately, and intentionally, was > > eliminate an illegal at least every week. And I > > did not allow myself to ever, ever eat it again, > > once it was eliminated. I haven't touched pasta > > since I eliminated it as a snack. And so forth. > > > > It's hard.... very hard. But the results are more than worth the effort. > > > > >I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost > > >mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its > > >good to talk about her with people and plan > > >something nice to do that makes you happy > > >everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. > > > > My sister's plane should be landing in a few > > minutes, and my niece will be arriving tomorrow. > > Mom's memorial will be on Thursday at 1pm. We > > plan to celebrate her life, not mourn her death. > > > > > > — Marilyn > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > > Darn Good SCD Cook > > No Human Children > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 The brain connection cannot be overestimated. My symptoms started two months after my first son got diagnosed with autism. I was worried sick about my second son also having autism (he doesn't) AND I got pregnant with our third (a completely unwanted pregnancy). my husband was traveling 5 days a week and I was doing SCD cooking for my kids all by myself. I have never been more despondent in my life and it was in the midst of all this, that i started having the worst digestive symptoms imaginable. You're not alone. but isn't it cruel that we get hit by brain and gut symptoms at the same time? - > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > Just an observation. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Keep cooked chicken breasts in the freezer, hamburger patties, cheese and hard boiled eggs (if you tolerate them) for quick snacks. I never imagined I would be munching on a hamburger patty like I would a cookie, but they make a great quick snack. PJ > > > >I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, > > > >but I still have my toast in the morning - on > > > >yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. > > > > > > I would switch to an almond flour muffin for your breakfast. > > > > > > >I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little > > > >dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. > > > > > > Did you know that craving chocolate can mean low > > > magnesium? You may want to check that. If you > > > decide to supplement magnesium, go with magnesium > > > glycinate, which seems to absorb better, and make sure there are no illegals. > > > > > > >I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll > > > >probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my > > > >problem has always been yeast so I make sure > > > >there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. > > > > > > Starches and sugars feed the bad bacteria and the > > > yeast. That's why we eliminate them. There's a > > > mock mac-n-cheese recipe floating around the list > > > which is a good substitute. Lentils are advanced, > > > but would be better than rice. > > > > > > The problem is that you need to get off the > > > illegals, and if you allow yourself to sneak > > > them, then it will be hard to stay 100%. It's one > > > little illegal with breakfast, and one little > > > illegal for a snack, and one little illegal for > > > lunch... and pretty soon, you've one little > > > illegaled yourself right off SCD, and then you'll say it doesn't work. > > > > > > What I did, deliberately, and intentionally, was > > > eliminate an illegal at least every week. And I > > > did not allow myself to ever, ever eat it again, > > > once it was eliminated. I haven't touched pasta > > > since I eliminated it as a snack. And so forth. > > > > > > It's hard.... very hard. But the results are more than worth the effort. > > > > > > >I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost > > > >mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its > > > >good to talk about her with people and plan > > > >something nice to do that makes you happy > > > >everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. > > > > > > My sister's plane should be landing in a few > > > minutes, and my niece will be arriving tomorrow. > > > Mom's memorial will be on Thursday at 1pm. We > > > plan to celebrate her life, not mourn her death. > > > > > > > > > — Marilyn > > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > > > Darn Good SCD Cook > > > No Human Children > > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I hope you feel better. What made me angry was people telling me I had caused it, as if anyone should have to hear that. Your bowel issues are not your fault. Raising s child with autism is enough of a challenge. I hope he, and your other two are doing well. PJ > > > > I'm reading BTVC for the third time and every time I do something clicks. Specifically in the chatpter " the brain connection. " As I read the chapter it occured to me that in college which was about the time my crohn's symptoms started showing up was the same time I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder and put on paxil. I no longer view this as just coincedence. I have since weened mysel off of paxil as I have learned to control the panic attacks that used to scare the hell out of me. I still get them, I just recognize instantly what is happening and am able to control it. > > Just an observation. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 At 11:13 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote: I hope you feel better. What made me angry was people telling me I had caused it, as if anyone should have to hear that. Your bowel issues are not your fault. PJ, Did you know that a doctor actually told Elaine Gottschall that SHE had caused her daughter'd bowel disease because she was a terrible mother? Elaine certainly didn't cause it... but she did cure it. Not only for her daughter, but for thousands of us. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I read about that. That was also the era where they blamed autism on the mother. So glad we've come a long way since then, and so grateful for Elaine PJ > >I hope you feel better. What made me angry was > >people telling me I had caused it, as if anyone > >should have to hear that. Your bowel issues are not your fault. > > PJ, > > Did you know that a doctor actually told Elaine > Gottschall that SHE had caused her daughter'd > bowel disease because she was a terrible mother? > > Elaine certainly didn't cause it... but she did > cure it. Not only for her daughter, but for thousands of us. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks PJ, Yep I can tolerate these things - I'll get myself organised Bibi > > > > >I'm making my salads everyday for lunch at work, > > > > >but I still have my toast in the morning - on > > > > >yeast free bread with lots of butter as I need the calories. > > > > > > > > I would switch to an almond flour muffin for your breakfast. > > > > > > > > >I mostly get hungry at night and crave a little > > > > >dark chocolate after dinner - at the moment I just look at it in the fridge. > > > > > > > > Did you know that craving chocolate can mean low > > > > magnesium? You may want to check that. If you > > > > decide to supplement magnesium, go with magnesium > > > > glycinate, which seems to absorb better, and make sure there are no illegals. > > > > > > > > >I'm going away in a couple of weeks so I'll > > > > >probably sneak a little rice and bread in but my > > > > >problem has always been yeast so I make sure > > > > >there's no yeast in anything and always toast the bread. > > > > > > > > Starches and sugars feed the bad bacteria and the > > > > yeast. That's why we eliminate them. There's a > > > > mock mac-n-cheese recipe floating around the list > > > > which is a good substitute. Lentils are advanced, > > > > but would be better than rice. > > > > > > > > The problem is that you need to get off the > > > > illegals, and if you allow yourself to sneak > > > > them, then it will be hard to stay 100%. It's one > > > > little illegal with breakfast, and one little > > > > illegal for a snack, and one little illegal for > > > > lunch... and pretty soon, you've one little > > > > illegaled yourself right off SCD, and then you'll say it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > What I did, deliberately, and intentionally, was > > > > eliminate an illegal at least every week. And I > > > > did not allow myself to ever, ever eat it again, > > > > once it was eliminated. I haven't touched pasta > > > > since I eliminated it as a snack. And so forth. > > > > > > > > It's hard.... very hard. But the results are more than worth the effort. > > > > > > > > >I know what its like to lose your mum, I lost > > > > >mine many years ago when I was quite young. Its > > > > >good to talk about her with people and plan > > > > >something nice to do that makes you happy > > > > >everyday. Laughter classes help too if you have them in your area. > > > > > > > > My sister's plane should be landing in a few > > > > minutes, and my niece will be arriving tomorrow. > > > > Mom's memorial will be on Thursday at 1pm. We > > > > plan to celebrate her life, not mourn her death. > > > > > > > > > > > > — Marilyn > > > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > > > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > > > > Darn Good SCD Cook > > > > No Human Children > > > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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