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Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and after

surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not really

sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've heard

a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks

before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery in

October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.

Any advice?

Barbara

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Can't use hormones. Can't use diaphragm while weight

is changing so rapidly. Condoms and foams? I know,

ICK!

Laurie

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exactly - ick.....

so far it has been very helpful that I have mitzelscherz (sp?) - which is just a big word which means I can "feel" ovulation....but......I would hate to wind of preggers right before the get a date! argh!

From: LLLORY@... Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:24 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Birth Control?

Can't use hormones. Can't use diaphragm while weightis changing so rapidly. Condoms and foams? I know,ICK!Laurie__________________________________________________

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Yup, that would throw a monkey wrench into the works. Even with

mittelshmerz, you can get pregnant, by having sex twenty four hours or

so PRIOR to ovulation. Good luck to you!

Laurie

> exactly - ick.....

>

> so far it has been very helpful that I have mitzelscherz (sp?) - which

> is just a big word which means I can " feel " ovulation....but......I

> would hate to wind of preggers right before the get a date! argh!

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: LLLORY@y... [mailto:LLLORY@y...]

> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:24 PM

> To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients

> Subject: Re: Birth Control?

>

>

>

> Can't use hormones. Can't use diaphragm while weight

> is changing so rapidly. Condoms and foams? I know,

> ICK!

> Laurie

>

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Oh definetely. I am fairly regular so I at least have an idea of when it will hapen - the mittelshmerz is just a confirmation.

From: Laurie Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:02 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Birth Control?

Yup, that would throw a monkey wrench into the works. Even withmittelshmerz, you can get pregnant, by having sex twenty four hours orso PRIOR to ovulation. Good luck to you!Laurie> exactly - ick.....> > so far it has been very helpful that I have mitzelscherz (sp?) - which> is just a big word which means I can "feel" ovulation....but......I> would hate to wind of preggers right before the get a date! argh! > > ________________________________> > From: LLLORY@y... [mailto:LLLORY@y...] > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:24 PM> To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients > Subject: Re: Birth Control?> > > > Can't use hormones. Can't use diaphragm while weight> is changing so rapidly. Condoms and foams? I know,> ICK!> Laurie> > __________________________________________________>

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Might want to consider either an IUD (I have Mirena and love it!) or a

Nuvaring.

LLLORY@... wrote:

>Can't use hormones. Can't use diaphragm while weight

>is changing so rapidly. Condoms and foams? I know,

>ICK!

>

>

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I too was wondering and I actually have an appt to discuss other

options to the pill. I really don't plan on needing it any time

soon as I am happily single. However, if the " one " comes around

(Mayor Newsome, you hunk did you hear that) :)

Jeanne

> Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and

after

> surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not

really

> sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've

heard

> a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks

> before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery

in

> October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.

>

> Any advice?

> Barbara

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oh honey - I so got my dibs on him first - lol

Barbara

-----Original Message-----From: topazmisskitty Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:39 AMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Birth Control?I too was wondering and I actually have an appt to discuss other options to the pill. I really don't plan on needing it any time soon as I am happily single. However, if the "one" comes around(Mayor Newsome, you hunk did you hear that) :)Jeanne> Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and after > surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not really > sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've heard > a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks > before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery in > October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.> > Any advice?> Barbara

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I've been kissed by Mayor Newsom several times (on the cheek of

course). I worked really hard on his campaign so sorry girls...he

owes me FIRST! ha!

Azin

> > Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and

> after

> > surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not

> really

> > sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've

> heard

> > a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks

> > before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery

> in

> > October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.

> >

> > Any advice?

> > Barbara

>

>

>

>

>

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well I suppose - but if you get him - I will take your sloppy seconds anytime~ lol

Barbaras

-----Original Message-----From: Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:48 AMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Birth Control?I've been kissed by Mayor Newsom several times (on the cheek of course). I worked really hard on his campaign so sorry girls...he owes me FIRST! ha!Azin> > Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and > after > > surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not > really > > sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've > heard > > a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks > > before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery > in > > October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.> > > > Any advice?> > Barbara> > > > > >

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You know the saying...abstinence makes the heart grow fonder!

Oh wait... ; )

In gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-

patients , " ltljsmom " wrote:

> Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and

after

> surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not

really

> sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've

heard

> a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks

> before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery

in

> October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.

>

> Any advice?

> Barbara

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Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin Newsome married?

Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least until your

metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the diaphragm.

The down side:

Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little practice to use.

After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll probably have to be

refitted. They require forethought--you have to remember to insert it

or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with them is a bit

messy and doesn't taste great.

The up side:

The diaphragm is under your control. It has no systemic side effects

(like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.). When you use it, you

know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you don't know what

dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the Pill's effects

are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not. With IUDs you can

have internal problems like bleeding, perforation, infection, etc.,

and they're not 100%.

At one time or another during my reproductive years I used just about

every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff. Pills, IUD,

contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I thought the diaphragm

was the most reliable and least intrusive method. But I never looked

into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might want to research those.

Martha

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Dr. Dutta said that I can stay on Zovia you may want

to look into that pill.

Kim

--- nursefera2 nurseferatu@...> wrote:

> Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin

> Newsome married?

>

> Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least

> until your

> metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the

> diaphragm.

> The down side:

> Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little

> practice to use.

> After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll

> probably have to be

> refitted. They require forethought--you have to

> remember to insert it

> or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with

> them is a bit

> messy and doesn't taste great.

> The up side:

> The diaphragm is under your control. It has no

> systemic side effects

> (like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.).

> When you use it, you

> know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you

> don't know what

> dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the

> Pill's effects

> are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not.

> With IUDs you can

> have internal problems like bleeding, perforation,

> infection, etc.,

> and they're not 100%.

>

> At one time or another during my reproductive years

> I used just about

> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff.

> Pills, IUD,

> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I

> thought the diaphragm

> was the most reliable and least intrusive method.

> But I never looked

> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might

> want to research those.

>

> Martha

>

>

>

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really? she can do better than that - lol

Barbara

From: topazmisskitty Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:33 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Birth Control?

Mr Mayor is no longer married, however I did hear that the ex-wife was dating Bolton.Jeanne> Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin Newsome married?> > Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least until your> metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the diaphragm. > The down side:> Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little practice to use.> After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll probably have to be> refitted. They require forethought--you have to remember to insert it> or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with them is a bit> messy and doesn't taste great. > The up side:> The diaphragm is under your control. It has no systemic side effects> (like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.). When you use it, you> know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you don't know what> dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the Pill's effects> are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not. With IUDs you can> have internal problems like bleeding, perforation, infection, etc.,> and they're not 100%. > > At one time or another during my reproductive years I used just about> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff. Pills, IUD,> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I thought the diaphragm> was the most reliable and least intrusive method. But I never looked> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might want to research those.> > Martha

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Mr Mayor is no longer married, however I did hear that the ex-wife

was dating Bolton.

Jeanne

> Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin Newsome married?

>

> Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least until your

> metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the diaphragm.

> The down side:

> Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little practice to

use.

> After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll probably have to be

> refitted. They require forethought--you have to remember to insert

it

> or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with them is a bit

> messy and doesn't taste great.

> The up side:

> The diaphragm is under your control. It has no systemic side

effects

> (like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.). When you use it,

you

> know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you don't know

what

> dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the Pill's effects

> are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not. With IUDs you

can

> have internal problems like bleeding, perforation, infection, etc.,

> and they're not 100%.

>

> At one time or another during my reproductive years I used just

about

> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff. Pills, IUD,

> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I thought the

diaphragm

> was the most reliable and least intrusive method. But I never

looked

> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might want to

research those.

>

> Martha

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Thats our ....still kicking LOL!!

> > Does anyone have a recommended form of birth control prior to and

> after

> > surgery? I am going to my girly doctor (lol) tomorrow and Im not

> really

> > sure what to ask for. I wanted to go on the pill again, but I've

> heard

> > a few of you mention that your doctors had you go off a few weeks

> > before surgery. I am hoping (everything crossed) to have surgery

> in

> > October - so there would really be no point in going on the pill.

> >

> > Any advice?

> > Barbara

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In general I agree, the diaphragm has a LOT of advantages. I used it

for years, back when I was younger/thinner/more limber. My one big

problem with it right now is that I'm too big and too inflexible to

insert the blankety-blank-blank thing myself!!!!

Norplant worked really well for me as well; I never had any side

effects with it at all, and it gave me five worry-free years.

Unfortunately, when I went back in to have it replaced I was told it

had been pulled and Kaiser no longer would implant them. Depo-provera

shots, the other long-term solution, last for three months at a time,

but I had more side effects from them and decided to stop.

Right now, I appear to have passed over to the " menopausal " side of

things, but if my hormones start flaring up again with weight loss I'd

hate to have a surprise package in time for my 50th birthday next

year!

Cathy

> At one time or another during my reproductive years I used just

about

> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff. Pills, IUD,

> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I thought the

diaphragm

> was the most reliable and least intrusive method. But I never looked

> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might want to research

those.

>

> Martha

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None of the physicians have mentioned that the absorption of the Pill post-surgery is problematic. I guess I'll ask my ob/gyn about that. I did stop prior to the surgery...but I was also being (and am still being) abstinent. However, with the French invasion...well...you know. SO, definitely want to use something.

Condoms...blechhhh...the latex alergy makes that a not very nice option.

I tried the diaphragm once. As I bent the sucker and tried to insert it, I lost my grip and it went zipping across the room and got lodged underneath the dresser. WHile funnier than heck, it kinda killed the mood.

My sister had to have a hysterectomy when she was 20 because of the IUD, and even though they've improved the technology, I don't trust it as a result.

I'm hoping the Pill will be ok. (My friend scanned and sent all of his STD reports...he got labwork done this week...and I'm doing the same. Ah Amor in the era of AIDS.)

RobynnKIMBERLEY wrote:

Dr. Dutta said that I can stay on Zovia you may wantto look into that pill.Kim--- nursefera2 wrote:> Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin> Newsome married?> > Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least> until your> metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the> diaphragm. > The down side:> Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little> practice to use.> After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll> probably have to be> refitted. They require forethought--you have to> remember to insert it> or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with> them is a bit> messy and doesn't taste great. > The up side:> The diaphragm is under your control. It has no>

systemic side effects> (like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.). > When you use it, you> know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you> don't know what> dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the> Pill's effects> are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not.> With IUDs you can> have internal problems like bleeding, perforation,> infection, etc.,> and they're not 100%. > > At one time or another during my reproductive years> I used just about> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff.> Pills, IUD,> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I> thought the diaphragm> was the most reliable and least intrusive method.> But I never looked> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might> want to research those.> > Martha > > >

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I had Norplant at one point and it just didnt work well for me. I had it for about 2 years and I would have spotting episodes at least twice a month. Rarely and actual period - but I felt like I spotting more of the month than I wasnt!

I am going to ask about that kill Kimberley recommended.

Thanks!

Barbara

From: Robynn VanPatten Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:30 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Re: Birth Control?

None of the physicians have mentioned that the absorption of the Pill post-surgery is problematic. I guess I'll ask my ob/gyn about that. I did stop prior to the surgery...but I was also being (and am still being) abstinent. However, with the French invasion...well...you know. SO, definitely want to use something.

Condoms...blechhhh...the latex alergy makes that a not very nice option.

I tried the diaphragm once. As I bent the sucker and tried to insert it, I lost my grip and it went zipping across the room and got lodged underneath the dresser. WHile funnier than heck, it kinda killed the mood.

My sister had to have a hysterectomy when she was 20 because of the IUD, and even though they've improved the technology, I don't trust it as a result.

I'm hoping the Pill will be ok. (My friend scanned and sent all of his STD reports...he got labwork done this week...and I'm doing the same. Ah Amor in the era of AIDS.)

RobynnKIMBERLEY wrote:

Dr. Dutta said that I can stay on Zovia you may wantto look into that pill.Kim--- nursefera2 wrote:> Re: who gets to get next to da Mayor...Isn't Gavin> Newsome married?> > Anyway, for birth control pre- and post-op (at least> until your> metabolism and absorption stabilize) I recommend the> diaphragm. > The down side:> Diaphragms need to be fitted and they take a little> practice to use.> After you lose signif. amounts of weight you'll> probably have to be> refitted. They require forethought--you have to> remember to insert it> or duh, it won't work. And the jelly that goes with> them is a bit> messy and doesn't taste great. > The up side:> The diaphragm is under your control. It has no> systemic side effects> (like blood clots, mood swings, spotting, etc.). > When you use it, you> know what you're getting...Whereas with the Pill you> don't know what> dose to take, since your absorption changes. And the> Pill's effects> are with you 24/7 whether you're having sex or not.> With IUDs you can> have internal problems like bleeding, perforation,> infection, etc.,> and they're not 100%. > > At one time or another during my reproductive years> I used just about> every contraceptive known to woman... Several diff.> Pills, IUD,> contraceptive sponge, diaphragm, and condoms. I> thought the diaphragm> was the most reliable and least intrusive method.> But I never looked> into Norplant implanted hormone devices. You might> want to research those.> > Martha > > > ____________________________________________________Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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