Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 I have a question for everyone that has had the DS. I have heard that you get an epideral. Is that the same in the open and the lap or just for the open? I am just curious as I had an epidural with the delivery of my son and they kept pumping it into me and it didn't do any good! Thanks, Stefany My dr doesn't like using them. I think it's an individual thing with each surgeon. I've also heard that it's different than in childbirth because you are able to walk, so its not affecting the same locations that the childbirth epidural does. I've never had one so that is about all I can comment on. Who is your surgeon? ~~* AJ *~~ BMI 58 NW Washington Medical DR Heap, Richland WA Working on 1st appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 They surely don't have you awake????!! They do put you to sleep for the DS surgery? Right?! YES! You are asleep! Many of the surgeons like them I think because you can get up and walk without pain. I'm assuming that is the reason. Some think its better than pain medication. My dr uses pain meds because he doesn't like the effects with the epidural as much. Its just a preference I think. The epidural actually is not used until after you are out of surgery from what I've been told. You are knocked out for surgery and then in recovery when you come around, they get that going. Can you imagine being awake for that??? NO WAY! I'd like to be out before I'm at the hospital...I'm a whimp!!! I Admit it!!!!!!! ~~* AJ *~~ BMI 58 NW Washington Medical DR Heap, Richland WA Working on 1st appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 They surely don't have you awake????!! They do put you to sleep for the DS surgery? Right?! Re: WLSS - slow losers > > club on Yahoo > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/01 3:09:21 PM, > > duodenalswitch > > writes: > > > > > > << > > > A new group has been formed today! be the first to > > post! > > > WLSSlowLosersClub > > > on Yahoo - > > > >> > > > > > > Hey, Elle: many thanks! I'm there, man! Pronto! > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > all the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 i posted my last question too soon-before i finished reading my mail and came across this. please ignore my other post. stefany Re: epidural question > ; > Calm down! ;-) > The epidural is for pain management AFTER you come out of > recovery. It usually stays in place for three days. > > One is under General Anesthetic during surgery. That means > sound asleep and 'dead' to the world. > > gobo > DS pre-op > > > > > > WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT > TTT? > > > > If they don't knock me out I am changin my mind > > dangit!!! > > > > So I am a whimp, I will be the first to admit that. I > > had surgery with an epideral (sp) with an arthoscopic > > knee surgery and it was the most unbelievable > > experience, it didn't hurt, but I sooooooooooooooooo > > cannot be awake for this stuff. I couldn't even > > handle being awake to have my teeth pulled. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Ok, so explain the way this epidural works anyway then. I was under the impression that it is a " spinal anesthetic? (again my spelling is horid, had a killer day at work today) I have had a spinal which is akin to a spinal tap. I don't think I have ever had anything that they put in you and leave there? I am so confused, someone fill me in now I am nervous. Also, the more I think about this whole thing the more nervous I am that more surgeons don't do this surgery. Has anyone asked a RNY surgeon why he doesn't do the DS? Again, we have a big bariatric center here at the University of Chicago one of the top med schools in the Country and I find it hard to believe that they don't do it. I called a couple surgeons today and they didn't even know what I was talking about. THAT made me nervous. Just wonderin' Hope everyone had a good day. --- gobo yoemoe@...> wrote: > ; > Calm down! ;-) > The epidural is for pain management AFTER you come > out of > recovery. It usually stays in place for three days. > > One is under General Anesthetic during surgery. That > means > sound asleep and 'dead' to the world. > > gobo > DS pre-op > > > > > > WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT > TTT? > > > > If they don't knock me out I am changin my mind > > dangit!!! > > > > So I am a whimp, I will be the first to admit > that. I > > had surgery with an epideral (sp) with an > arthoscopic > > knee surgery and it was the most unbelievable > > experience, it didn't hurt, but I > sooooooooooooooooo > > cannot be awake for this stuff. I couldn't even > > handle being awake to have my teeth pulled. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 The epidural is put into a different place than a spinal. From the outside (your back) it looks much the same but the place where the medication is injected is totally different. A spinal anesthetic is where a needle is placed into where your spinal fluid is, the medication injected and the needle removed. Most spinals last for only a couple of hours. They are useful for things that don't take very long, i.e. a cesarean section. The epidural uses a larger needle and goes into a space outside where the spinal fluid is. This is done by feel by the anesthesiologist. Once in the proper place a tiny tube is placed and the needle removed. This allows for medication to be given. It is used in a variety of pain control settings; labor, bakc pain, cancer pain, etc. It is NOT used in our case for anesthesia, you are asleep for the actual surgery, but is used for pain control afterwards. Dr. Anthone - Surgery July 6th BMI 44 > Ok, so explain the way this epidural works anyway > then. I was under the impression that it is a " spinal > anesthetic? (again my spelling is horid, had a killer > day at work today) I have had a spinal which is akin > to a spinal tap. I don't think I have ever had > anything that they put in you and leave there? I am > so confused, someone fill me in now I am nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Can they insert it while you are under? I have had two but while pregnant and it was not healthy to be under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Hi, i was awake during my c-section. They didnt let me watch and it was real strange being numb from the chest down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Has anyone ever been awake for the surgery? I think it would be neat if they got you totally numb to where you couldn't feel anything but you were still awake. I'm having lap DS (I hope) and thought about how it would be just fascinating to watch the surgery on the monitor. OK, I know some of you would think me insane, but I actually always wanted to be a surgeon. I'm still not sure why I never pursued it. I think it was the thought of so many years of school at that young of an age. Oh well, I still have the Discovery Health channel. ;D -----Original Message-----From: lookn2bthin@... Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:22 PMTo: duodenalswitch Subject: Re: epidural question They surely don't have you awake????!! They do put you to sleep for the DS surgery? Right?! YES! You are asleep! Many of the surgeons like them I think because you can get up and walk without pain. I'm assuming that is the reason. Some think its better than pain medication. My dr uses pain meds because he doesn't like the effects with the epidural as much. Its just a preference I think. The epidural actually is not used until after you are out of surgery from what I've been told. You are knocked out for surgery and then in recovery when you come around, they get that going. Can you imagine being awake for that??? NO WAY! I'd like to be out before I'm at the hospital...I'm a whimp!!! I Admit it!!!!!!! ~~* AJ *~~ BMI 58 NW Washington Medical DR Heap, Richland WA Working on 1st appeal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Is this something that you HAVE to have? I have had severely painful surgery before and only had a morphine drip. Or can they insert it when you are asleep. I am such a whimp about this stuff. Especially with the ones in my back. I would rather not, just wondering if that was optional. Jen --- @... wrote: > The epidural is put into a different place than a > spinal. From the > outside (your back) it looks much the same but the > place where the > medication is injected is totally different. A > spinal anesthetic is > where a needle is placed into where your spinal > fluid is, the > medication injected and the needle removed. Most > spinals last for > only a couple of hours. They are useful for things > that don't take > very long, i.e. a cesarean section. > The epidural uses a larger needle and goes into a > space outside where > the spinal fluid is. This is done by feel by the > anesthesiologist. > Once in the proper place a tiny tube is placed and > the needle > removed. This allows for medication to be given. It > is used in a > variety of pain control settings; labor, bakc pain, > cancer pain, etc. > It is NOT used in our case for anesthesia, you are > asleep for the > actual surgery, but is used for pain control > afterwards. > > > Dr. Anthone - Surgery July 6th > BMI 44 > > > > > > > Ok, so explain the way this epidural works anyway > > then. I was under the impression that it is a > " spinal > > anesthetic? (again my spelling is horid, had a > killer > > day at work today) I have had a spinal which is > akin > > to a spinal tap. I don't think I have ever had > > anything that they put in you and leave there? I > am > > so confused, someone fill me in now I am nervous. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 My experience with surgeries in the past is if you would like to watch it, they will give you a tape, ask your surgeon before the date comes. --- steph@...> wrote: > Has anyone ever been awake for the surgery? I think > it would be neat if they > got you totally numb to where you couldn't feel > anything but you were still > awake. I'm having lap DS (I hope) and thought about > how it would be just > fascinating to watch the surgery on the monitor. OK, > I know some of you > would think me insane, but I actually always wanted > to be a surgeon. I'm > still not sure why I never pursued it. I think it > was the thought of so many > years of school at that young of an age. Oh well, I > still have the Discovery > Health channel. ;D > > > Re: epidural question > > > In a message dated 5/21/01 4:30:15 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > sblevins@... writes: > > > > They surely don't have you awake????!! They do > put you to sleep for the > DS > surgery? Right?! > > > > YES! You are asleep! Many of the surgeons like > them I think because you > can > get up and walk without pain. I'm assuming that > is the reason. Some > think > its better than pain medication. My dr uses pain > meds because he doesn't > like the effects with the epidural as much. Its > just a preference I > think. > The epidural actually is not used until after you > are out of surgery from > what I've been told. You are knocked out for > surgery and then in recovery > when you come around, they get that going. > Can you imagine being awake for that??? NO WAY! > I'd like to be out before > I'm at the hospital...I'm a whimp!!! I Admit > it!!!!!!! > > ~~* AJ *~~ > BMI 58 > NW Washington Medical > DR Heap, Richland WA > Working on 1st appeal > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 >>>>Is this something that you HAVE to have? I have had severely painful surgery before and only had a morphine drip. Or can they insert it when you are asleep. I am such a whimp about this stuff. Especially with the ones in my back. I would rather not, just wondering if that was optional.<<<<< Jenn: It really depends on the preferences of one's surgeon. YOu definately should ask your surgeon what his pain control procedure is -- both during the operation and post-op. My surgeon, Dr. Gagner, does not use epidurals. He said that he would if I absolutely insisted on it but he didn't feel it was necessary since his method of morphine pump and immediate, higher doses of Torodol seemed to be very effective. Other surgeons prefer the epidural and it is rather routine. I suppose you may be able to request another form of pain control if you discuss it with your surgeon beforehand? all the best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 I don't think I want this epidural, I don't handle pre op pain well at all. Post op I can deal with just about anything, but the stress of having some sort of TUBE put in my spine or near my spine and LEFT THERE? HHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL no. Ok, I am done. --- shs43bulldog@... wrote: > Hi, i was awake during my c-section. They didnt let > me watch and it was real > strange being numb from the chest down. > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Jen you're not a wimp. This was a little scary for me as well as many others. When I had my surgery I was all nervous. They gave me IV Versed and I was virtually asleep when they put in the epidural. I had a nice anesthesiologist who was cracking jokes with me but for some reason I had it done in a room off the recovery room and that gave me the willies big time! When they took it out a couple days before I left the hospital, which everyone expressed surprise at, btw, because I didn't want or need the massive pain control by then, one of the doctors on rotation just ripped all the tape off my back holding my epi in. I didn't feel that, either, but later the hair had to grow back and it was itchy and a little bumpy. My advice: Ask them to give you some Versed or other medication to relax you pre-epidural. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2001 Report Share Posted May 25, 2001 --- Robin Fahr fahrout@...> wrote: > Jen you're not a wimp. This was a little scary for me as well as many > others. When I had my surgery I was all nervous. They gave me IV > Versed and I was virtually asleep when they put in the epidural. I had > a nice anesthesiologist who was cracking jokes with me but for some > reason I had it done in a room off the recovery room and that gave me > the willies big time! When they took it out a couple days before I left > the hospital, which everyone expressed surprise at, btw, because I > didn't want or need the massive pain control by then, one of the doctors > on rotation just ripped all the tape off my back holding my epi in. I > didn't feel that, either, but later the hair had to grow back and it was > itchy and a little bumpy. > > My advice: Ask them to give you some Versed or other medication to > relax you pre-epidural. > > Robin > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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