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TJ, I am sorry you are having such a difficult complication -- it is my understanding that these sorts of nerve insults often improve with time -- but I am no expert, I just read lots of medical records in my job. Hope someone else has experience for you-- Nan E. pre op in CA

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Hi Everyone...I don't post often becuse of a problem I'm having right

now with my right eye.

I had my Ds 3 months ago. Spent most of that time near a bathroom. I

ended up in the ER about 3 weeks out due to dehydration but all that I

was able to deal with.

Since day one after surgery I have had a very unexpected complication

with my right eye. My surgery was perfect and so far I have lost approx.

55lbs but according to my nureo-opthalmaogist (sp?) the central line

caused damage to the nerve that goes to my eye and the result was called

Horner's Syndrome. Drooping eyelid, severe double/blurred vision,

headaches.

I have noticed a slight improvement on some days in the last week. I

can't drive and it is very frustrating.

There is nothing that can be done to correct this medically but God is

able (and willing) and I expect to have a full recovery.

Has any other post-ops experienced anything like this?

Peace and Health,

TJ

LAP BPD/DS 2/16/01

Dr. Dennis /Marietta,GA

http://www.ObesitySurgeryCenter.com

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

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What is a central line?

--- ziff_@... wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone...I don't post often becuse of a problem

> I'm having right

> now with my right eye.

>

> I had my Ds 3 months ago. Spent most of that time

> near a bathroom. I

> ended up in the ER about 3 weeks out due to

> dehydration but all that I

> was able to deal with.

>

> Since day one after surgery I have had a very

> unexpected complication

> with my right eye. My surgery was perfect and so far

> I have lost approx.

> 55lbs but according to my nureo-opthalmaogist (sp?)

> the central line

> caused damage to the nerve that goes to my eye and

> the result was called

> Horner's Syndrome. Drooping eyelid, severe

> double/blurred vision,

> headaches.

>

> I have noticed a slight improvement on some days in

> the last week. I

> can't drive and it is very frustrating.

>

> There is nothing that can be done to correct this

> medically but God is

> able (and willing) and I expect to have a full

> recovery.

>

> Has any other post-ops experienced anything like

> this?

>

> Peace and Health,

> TJ

>

> LAP BPD/DS 2/16/01

> Dr. Dennis /Marietta,GA

> http://www.ObesitySurgeryCenter.com

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com

>

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>

>

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Since day one after surgery I have had a very unexpected complication

with my right eye. My surgery was perfect and so far I have lost approx.

55lbs but according to my nureo-opthalmaogist (sp?) the central line

caused damage to the nerve that goes to my eye and the result was called

Horner's Syndrome. Drooping eyelid, severe double/blurred vision,

headaches.

Congrats on the weight loss. So did the central line hit a nerve? Isn't it in the neck? i'm not very familiar with this sort of stuff. I hope you have a full recovery. I'm sure its very difficult to have your freedom limited due to this.

~~* AJ *~~

BMI 58

NW Washington Medical

DR Heap, Richland WA

Working on 1st appeal

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> What is a central line?

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>

A central line, or central venous access, is a very large-bore IV that

is inserted either in your shoulder or your neck. It can be used to

draw blood, administer high volume IV fluids, and give heavy-duty

drips like dopamine, Lasix, Vancomycin, etc. It is called a central

line because it is positioned (usually)with the tip just inside the

heart. They can be left in place for up to a month when proper care is

provided.

hope that helps,

Liane

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>>>>> Since day one after surgery I have had a very unexpected complication

with my right eye. My surgery was perfect and so far I have lost approx.

55lbs but according to my nureo-opthalmaogist (sp?) the central line

caused damage to the nerve that goes to my eye and the result was called

Horner's Syndrome. Drooping eyelid, severe double/blurred vision,

headaches. <<<<<

TJ: First off, congrats on the weight loss! :) I'm really sorry to hear

that you have experienced this complication. Even sadder that there isn't

any viable medical treatment that can prevent it from reoccuring.

Sorry, I don't know of anyone who has had a similar experience but I just

wanted to empathize with you.

all the best,

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TJ,

My dh fell off a 6 story roof and caught his left arm in the rung of a ladder (15 yrs ago). It caused him years of agony and the doctors in Mayo decided the only way to rid him of the pain was by cutting the nerves in his neck. This caused him to have Hoerners. He has to consciously keep his eyebrow arched in order to be able to see out of that eye. He also sweats only on one side. I do not know how severe the nerve damage is but some of the nerve does grow back. It takes years. As some of his nerves reconnected and he lives with the pain in his arm. We have an appt with a plastic surgeon in August to get a consult to have his eye pinned. When he holds his eyebrows up his vision clears. So we are hoping that by having some of his lids removed (probably take years off his face).

Good luck and we will let you know what the plastic surgeon says in August.

Viau http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html 3/29/01: 3165/20/01: 273 (-43 lbs)Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.orgTo join the new group for Dr Ren click on the link belowhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYUMC-thinforlife

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In a message dated 5/22/01 5:42:49 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< OMG ok, I don't like this. What else is there that I

dont read about on the websites? LOL, Epidurals,

Central lines? Does everyone have a central line?

what if I don't want one? I have

never had trouble with regular IV's and have been in

surgery for up to 6 hours before.

>>

jennifer: I don't think it's customary for all surgeons to use central

lines. Mine doesn't use them unless there is a severe complication. Again,

you should ask your surgeon his/her practice about this and what events would

necessitate a central line.

all the best,

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OMG ok, I don't like this. What else is there that I

dont read about on the websites? LOL, Epidurals,

Central lines? Does everyone have a central line?

what if I don't want one? I have

never had trouble with regular IV's and have been in

surgery for up to 6 hours before.

--- " Lili F. " LiliFrench@...> wrote:

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> > What is a central line?

> >

> >

>

> A central line, or central venous access, is a very

> large-bore IV that

> is inserted either in your shoulder or your neck.

> It can be used to

> draw blood, administer high volume IV fluids, and

> give heavy-duty

> drips like dopamine, Lasix, Vancomycin, etc. It is

> called a central

> line because it is positioned (usually)with the tip

> just inside the

> heart. They can be left in place for up to a month

> when proper care is

> provided.

> hope that helps,

> Liane

>

>

>

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There is nothing that can be done to correct this medically but God is

able (and willing) and I expect to have a full recovery

I am amazed that there is nothing they can do to correct this.

So sorry to hear about your troubles.

kathy b

Dr. Elariny

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Ok, I am finally going to ask this what in the world

does DH mean? I assume its some form of something

husband, but I am really not sure...

Jen

--- Viau@...> wrote:

> TJ,

> My dh fell off a 6 story roof and caught his left

> arm in the rung of a ladder (15 yrs ago). It caused

> him years of agony and the doctors in Mayo decided

> the only way to rid him of the pain was by cutting

> the nerves in his neck. This caused him to have

> Hoerners. He has to consciously keep his eyebrow

> arched in order to be able to see out of that eye.

> He also sweats only on one side. I do not know how

> severe the nerve damage is but some of the nerve

> does grow back. It takes years. As some of his

> nerves reconnected and he lives with the pain in his

> arm. We have an appt with a plastic surgeon in

> August to get a consult to have his eye pinned.

> When he holds his eyebrows up his vision clears. So

> we are hoping that by having some of his lids

> removed (probably take years off his face).

> Good luck and we will let you know what the plastic

> surgeon says in August.

>

> Viau

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

> 3/29/01: 316

> 5/20/01: 273 (-43 lbs)

> Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.org

> To join the new group for Dr Ren click on the link

> below

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYUMC-thinforlife

>

>

>

>

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Jen,

If you love your husband, it stands for dear or darling or devoted husband.

If relations are not so good, it stand for the slang variant of "

Cranium " (if you get my drift?)

Marcia

> Re: Re: Unexpected Complication

>

>

> Ok, I am finally going to ask this what in the world

> does DH mean? I assume its some form of something

> husband, but I am really not sure...

>

> Jen

> --- Viau@...> wrote:

> > TJ,

> > My dh fell off a 6 story roof and caught his left

> > arm in the rung of a ladder (15 yrs ago). It caused

> > him years of agony and the doctors in Mayo decided

> > the only way to rid him of the pain was by cutting

> > the nerves in his neck. This caused him to have

> > Hoerners. He has to consciously keep his eyebrow

> > arched in order to be able to see out of that eye.

> > He also sweats only on one side. I do not know how

> > severe the nerve damage is but some of the nerve

> > does grow back. It takes years. As some of his

> > nerves reconnected and he lives with the pain in his

> > arm. We have an appt with a plastic surgeon in

> > August to get a consult to have his eye pinned.

> > When he holds his eyebrows up his vision clears. So

> > we are hoping that by having some of his lids

> > removed (probably take years off his face).

> > Good luck and we will let you know what the plastic

> > surgeon says in August.

> >

> > Viau

> > http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

> > 3/29/01: 316

> > 5/20/01: 273 (-43 lbs)

> > Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.org

> > To join the new group for Dr Ren click on the link

> > below

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYUMC-thinforlife

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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, I " m glad you are asking about so many things. We have all had

such a myriad fo different experiences and no one can say for certain

what will happen in your case. I am sure Joe didn't expect to have such

a hard time but we almost lost him. I personally had all kinds of tubes

and connections post op. The central line was sewed to my neck, and I

still have a " hicky " from it! I got an infection from the Foley

catheter (the pee line). I had transfusions and I had other fun stuff,

too. To date I have lost over 80 pounds and overall feel much healthier

than I have in many years. It was worth it to me. I just get teased a

little about the hicky now. People shut up when I tell them it was from

life-saving surgery.

Robin

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