Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hi all, I'm 7 1/2 months into the diet, and while I do think I'm headed in the right direction, there are probably just as many times I'm not so sure. I have predictably done the flares at 3 months (tough), 5 months (better) and 7 months (less in the pain department). I had lost 27 pounds in a few months just before SCD, and am having a hard time holding steady even at that weight. As far as anyone can tell, I don't have UC, or Crohn's or any IBD. What we do know is that I have a decades long yeast problem. My main symptoms now are pain and weight loss, along with nutritional deficiencies. Over many years, I grew increasing intolerant of many foods until just before SCD when I was down to a couple of dozen. Once I started to do SCD, I was down to 10, then 8 (lost broccoli & turkey), and now I've verified I'm reacting to green beans. What I tolerate is: chicken, beef, pork, bison, acorn squash, butternut squash, zucchini. I do rotate and have since I started the diet: one protein, one vegetable per day. I cook all my foods to the mush stage. Any ideas for green vegetables that might have agreed with you that were more advanced ? I'm thinking of trying peas since I tolerated those before I went SCD. I've tried spinach and swiss chard but they're a no go. Maybe if I puree ? Since I'm already pretty much on intro all the time, there's not much more room to go backward. Thanks for any thoughts, Sue R soon to be named Twiggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Have you tried food rotation strategies? I found that extremely helpful back when I started SCD and was dealing with a major candida overgrowth. Reacted to every vegetable I tried unless I waited 2 to 4 days between servings; some veggies required me to wait 7 to 14 days, but most were in the 2 to 4 day wait category. By using food rotation my immune system didn't respond and my digestion worked better. Of course I also had to apply all my other " rules " to food choices -- being 100% SCD, needing to limit my fiber, fat and seasonings to deal with an upper GI dysfunction, and then limit the candida " trigger " foods. Sounds complicated, but food rotation solved several major issues for me. Even now, five years later, I still rotate a few vegetables, waiting anywhere from 7 to 21 days between servings. I never had to rotate meats -- or at least my immune system rarely reacted, although getting my upper GI to tolerate meats (and fruits) is always difficult. Still, food rotation helped me. And it kept me from getting too bored with my foods. Kim M. SCD 5+ years Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6 years neurological decline 3 years > > Hi all, > > I'm 7 1/2 months into the diet, and while I do think I'm headed in the right direction, there are probably just as many times I'm not so sure. I have predictably done the flares at 3 months (tough), 5 months (better) and 7 months (less in the pain department). I had lost 27 pounds in a few months just before SCD, and am having a hard time holding steady even at that weight. > > As far as anyone can tell, I don't have UC, or Crohn's or any IBD. What we do know is that I have a decades long yeast problem. My main symptoms now are pain and weight loss, along with nutritional deficiencies. > > Over many years, I grew increasing intolerant of many foods until just before SCD when I was down to a couple of dozen. Once I started to do SCD, I was down to 10, then 8 (lost broccoli & turkey), and now I've verified I'm reacting to green beans. > > What I tolerate is: chicken, beef, pork, bison, acorn squash, butternut squash, zucchini. I do rotate and have since I started the diet: one protein, one vegetable per day. I cook all my foods to the mush stage. > > Any ideas for green vegetables that might have agreed with you that were more advanced ? I'm thinking of trying peas since I tolerated those before I went SCD. I've tried spinach and swiss chard but they're a no go. Maybe if I puree ? Since I'm already pretty much on intro all the time, there's not much more room to go backward. > > Thanks for any thoughts, > > Sue R > soon to be named Twiggy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Kim, Yes, I rotate, have for years. With 10 foods I could do a 5 day rotation, with 8 I was down to 4 days, and with 7... I can do a 4 day in name, though I think the acorn and butternut squash are so close, that'll really be a 3 day. With less and less foods, I'm getting more and more exposed. I'm already on Diflucan, did a course of Xanax for SIBO (symptom of that is carbohydrate intolerance), am really at a loss of what to do. Thanks for your input, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Sue Are you eating the same protein and the same vegetable several times in one day? You mention eating one of each per day. That may still be too much of a repetition for your digestion. When I rotate foods, I eat one serving of the particular food once, then wait 2 to 4 days (or more) before I eat it again. So each meal/snack I have in a day contains different foods, constant variety. I can repeat proteins within the same day (although with certain meats I have to wait a day or two) and with the few fruits I eat I can have them once a day every day (unless I'm dealing with candida). But with vegetables I have to pay more attention to rotating them, so I have a different one every meal and don't repeat for 2 to 4 days. I've worked out a "schedule" that works for me. As the years have gone by I stopped having to rotate all my vegetables; now I just have a few that I have to be careful with. But I still try to eat something different with every meal/snack and go a few days before repeating. Are you getting immune system responses like hives and respiratory distress? Or are you getting digestive symptoms? Or both? While you're on DIflucan you can expect very little tolerance for anything -- in other words, your body will be sensitive to everything. DIflucan is notorious for die-off stress and causing an imbalance in the gut ecology. A lot of toxins accumulate in the liver and kidneys, which can trigger more immune responses. Sort of a vicious cycle. You don't mention how often you're taking Diflucan, but you might vary the dosage a bit, or go without for a few weeks and concentrate on getting rid of the candida through food choices. Are you pushing the probiotics? You'll need to push L. Acidophilus or S. Boulardii to rebalance your gut ecology. I had to get rid of my candida levels by food choice alone, as my first dose of Diflucan sent me to the ER with severe allergic response, and I now can't have any natural antifungals, or take Diflucan/Nystatin. So, I just starved out the candida; took time, but there was a lot less stress on my body systems. Anyway, just some ideas for you to consider. Kim M. >>>>>>>> Kim,Yes, I rotate, have for years. With 10 foods I could do a 5 day rotation, with 8 I was down to 4 days, and with 7... I can do a 4 day in name, though I think the acorn and butternut squash are so close, that'll really be a 3 day.With less and less foods, I'm getting more and more exposed.I'm already on Diflucan, did a course of Xanax for SIBO (symptom of that is carbohydrate intolerance), am really at a loss of what to do.Thanks for your input,Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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