Re: Deb............all.....Tom.......UGhhhhhh

[Guest guest]

I now see why people totally drop the list and just

live life...it gets so tiresome at times...yet I truly

do value many of you and will always be grateful for

the support and knowledge I have gleened from many of

you........... is right....the issue Deb had is

much deeper than summarized....DO READ POSTS or e-mail

deb....she will share her story....others will share

theirs....TOM......Dr. K is really booked and probably

couldn't get you in anyway....Dr. Rabkin has years of

experience so you would probably be more comfortable

there....I dont think I could ever let anyone but Dr.

K operate on me !! There is alot to be said for

drive, youth, current knowledge, and not missing a

beat ! He is meticulous and very talented....that is

why he is so booked these days...anyway....he also

wants patients to make informed choices and not enter

surgery lightly and pick a surgeon that is

geographically desirable...who you have faith in ! He

interviews his patients and wants them to interview

him...sounds like you know what you want from a

surgeon....Years....there are older surgeons out there

! Best of luck on your search ! Nan....I know

people did support Deb here ...but not always.....

those people who did not...who barbed her...tried to

one up her or simply defend their doctor without

respect for her experience only threw gasoline on a

burning fire......Anyway...once again...for the last

time I hope.....those who do not have picture perfect

outcomes need us the most....we may not be all they

need...but we are a key part of what they need.

PPPPPPEEEEEEEAAAAACCCCCCEEEEEEE peace ? JJ

--- duodenalswitch wrote:

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[Guest guest]

> TOM......Dr. K is really booked and probably

> couldn't get you in anyway....

I really wouldn't need him to. I'm seven weeks post-op with Dr.

Anthone, who is, IMHO, not simply the best DS surgeon out there, but

a saint, (or at least he's as close to a saint as I'll ever meet).

> sounds like you know what you want from a

> surgeon....Years....there are older surgeons out there

Not years, experience, knowledge, and skill.

I wanted a surgeon who will be able (within the limits of being

human) to save my life if I crashed on the operating table. I got

that with Dr. Anthone who, besides his ten years of surgical

practice, has also studied advanced trauma life support.

I wanted a surgeon who distinguished himself during his training. I

got that in Dr. Anthone who, at the end of his residency, was chosen

as Chief Resident, and who then was awarded a two-year surgical

research fellowship at s Hopkins University Medical School.

I wanted a surgeon who truly studies his field. I got that in Dr.

Anthone, who has published dozens of articles related to various

aspects of digestion and obesity. (Incidentally, he has also twice

been named Best Teacher at USC Medical School, once for his teaching

in the classroom, and once for his teaching in the operating

theater.)

I wanted a surgeon who thinks for himself, rather than following

popular trends. I got that in Dr. Anthone who, for example, only

performs the open DS (rather than arthroscopic). No, it's not a lack

of experience or skill. In fact, he TEACHES arthroscopic surgery at

the University of Southern California med school. He will only

perform the open DS because he wants to be able to run his fingers

along the entire length of the patient's digestive tract to be sure

there are no problems.

I wanted a surgeon who constantly looks for ways to improve the

outcomes of his patients. I got that in Dr. Anthone who, for

example, now routinely recommends a panniculectomy prior to the DS

(for patients with a large hanging belly) in order to improve post-

operative mobility and decrease the chance that a patient will

develop blood clots post-op.

I wanted a surgeon who knows the DS operation in and out. I got that

in Dr. Anthone. He was recruited to USC Medical School by Dr.

DeMeester, who developed the Duodenal Switch procedure for patients

with bile reflux gastritis. The Bilio-Pancreatic Diversion portion

of the surgery was developed by Dr. Scoparino in Genoa, Italy. Dr.

Hess, in Ohio, combined Dr. Scoparino's BPD with Dr. DeMeester's DS,

to create the BPD/DS we all know and love. When Dr. Anthone first

heard about the BPD/DS, he flew to Ohio to learn it at the feet of

the Creator Himself, (i.e., Dr. Hess).

I could go on, but I think you should get the point by now.

Anyway, I'm not trying to put Dr. K down. From everything I've heard

from his patients, I think he has the makings of a fine surgeon, some

day. Who knows, after he proves himself for several more years, I

might even recommend him to a friend.

> Anyway...once again...for the last

> time I hope.....those who do not have picture perfect

> outcomes need us the most....we may not be all they

> need...but we are a key part of what they need.

AMEN!

And, people whose opinions differ from the crowd, especially on vital

issues such as how to choose a surgeon, need to be heard as well.

But that's not a very popular view around here where, all too often,

the mere fact of disagreement is taken as a personal affront.

Tom

Panniculectomy, Dr. Anthone, 11/10/2000

Open DS, Dr. Anthone, 03/30/2001

11/10/2000....384

03/30/2001....360

04/19/2001....338

04/22/2001....334.5

05/03/2001....328

05/14/2001....319

05/18/2001....316

68 Ugly Pounds, GONE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

I now see why people totally drop the list and just

live life...it gets so tiresome at times...yet I truly

do value many of you and will always be grateful for

the support and knowledge I have gleaned from many of

you........... is right....the issue Deb had is

much deeper than summarized... Nan....I know

people did support Deb here ...but not always.....

those people who did not...who barbed her...tried to

one up her or simply defend their doctor without

respect for her experience only threw gasoline on a

burning fire......Anyway...once again...for the last

time I hope.....those who do not have picture perfect

outcomes need us the most....we may not be all they

need...but we are a key part of what they need.

PPPPPPEEEEEEEAAAAACCCCCCEEEEEEE peace ? JJ

--- duodenalswitch wrote:

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EXCUSE ME ! But I put a ton of caveats in my post that I did not have all the details and the best source was Deb's posts. Her supporters are a rabid lot, I did nothing to harm her or anyone by posting what I did. PAX, for gawd's sake! I did not say she was wrong in her opinion. I said I didn't know, I wasn't there. But I am being told right and left to shut up. If you all cannot tolerate any slight difference from your party line -- then don't post about Deb without the warning that no dissension can or will be tolerated and no responses are allowed. * & ^%$. The truth is known only to GOD, everything else is someone's opinion or interpretation of the facts. IF I get one more post telling me to shut up by the very people who are grousing about Deb's being censored, I will absolutely explode. Get a clue people!

Nan E. (who just got home from day one of pre-op tests and is very tired, in case anyone cares.)

[Guest guest]

And, people whose opinions differ from the crowd, especially on vital issues such as how to choose a surgeon, need to be heard as well.

But that's not a very popular view around here where, all too often, the mere fact of disagreement is taken as a personal affront.

Tom

AIN'T THAT THE FLAMING TRUTH!!!!!

NAN E. (who has gotten real tired of being persecuted for having the gall to say anything at all)

[Guest guest]

Tom....I really think that you had some valuable

things to say about expressing differences of opinions

and personalizations....I think however...it is often

how these opinions are said that makes all the

difference, in the manner people respond and start

personalizing....every action has a cause and

effect....! One can say....the reason I have chosen

Dr. Anthone...is due to the following factors that I

value : (insert your stuff said in this regard). What

I responded to was more of a discounting of Dr.

Keshishian's attributes, as you wrote to . I

have no intention of spending all night quoting

everything...but that is what I responded to ....

And from your response to me I just have one more

opinion to state....... I do not think that Dr.

Keshishian will be " an excellent surgeon

someday " .....I know he is an excellent surgeon today

!!! I also know that Rabkin/Jossart and Anthone are

fine surgeons also....we are very lucky here in

California. ......... JJ

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