Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Hey Tom- I just found your answer to my question. Thank you, thank you, thank you - especially for the warning about the changing colors. I would have probably run to the ER if you hadn't mentioned that because my poops have been very pale in color. Dr. Kim said it's the bile ??? I guess I really missed something because I never read about the carbs doing this to us. Or maybe I just didn't want to " hear " it. I'm Italian also and could have pasta at every meal. At least now I know someone is suffering with me on that note. I will be anxiously awaiting your report on charcoal - with my fingers crossed. I had some charcoal in my hand the other day at GNC and put it back thinking I didn't know enough on the subject yet and didn't want to waste anymore money (I've got nasty protein bars and shakes coming out of my ears). I would like to mention though that I just had a good shake for breakfast: MYOPLEX (I think their biggest seller?) in Chocolate Cream. The man at GNC suggested I split the pack into two shakes (more for your money, too). So half a pack made with one cup milk, handful of ice, one splenda and it's 29 gms. protein altogether. Great way to start the day..... and without GAS! Good luck Joann in Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 > I think perhaps she's really gung-ho on the lapband because she wants to make > a 'niche' for herself here.. I don't know of other surgeons in the area who > are doing this at this time.... Maybe she wants to diversify and become the > 'expert' in that particular surgery? > I would think that perhaps she just wants to know about all options in bariatric surgeries.. to be well- rounded, which will ultimately improve her reputation as an overall bariatric surgeon.. not " just " a surgeon who specializes in one surgery. I don't think we'll know unless someone asks her. I like the fact that she is open-minded enough to consider alternative surgeries.. but I don't speculate on her reasoning... Just my .02, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 > I think perhaps she's really gung-ho on the lapband because she wants to make > a 'niche' for herself here.. I don't know of other surgeons in the area who > are doing this at this time.... Maybe she wants to diversify and become the > 'expert' in that particular surgery? > I would think that perhaps she just wants to know about all options in bariatric surgeries.. to be well- rounded, which will ultimately improve her reputation as an overall bariatric surgeon.. not " just " a surgeon who specializes in one surgery. I don't think we'll know unless someone asks her. I like the fact that she is open-minded enough to consider alternative surgeries.. but I don't speculate on her reasoning... Just my .02, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I met Dr.Ren while she was working with Dr.Gagner. She was extremely personable and friendly. Knowing what I know now including the fatality I would quite likely choose Dr.Ren. Having a surgeon that you can talk to and who you feel is concerned with your life and the factors therein is comforting. And from what I have read NYU patients actually receive care from the nursing staff which, I can tell you from personal experience MT Sinai patients do not. I believe that she reccommends the type of surgery that she believes is best for the individual. I don't think that she went through the grief of learning DS just to turn around and not reccommend it based on the difficulty of the procedure. No one here is really ready to admit it but from what I have seen and experienced recovery from DS is harder than recovery from RNY or from Lap Band. I suspect that if you were to survey a list of surgeons who perform DS and RNY you would find that most reccommend RNY first. Most of the RNY people I know resumed many of their daily household work and care of children in less than a week. I do not have any children but I can tell you that for the first two weeks I could barely take care of myself let alone care for children or a family. If you have a saint for a spouse and angels for children then maybe DS is more of an option. But I think that it is important to realize that while we chose DS it is not the only answer. Some people because of their lifestyle and activity level may need to choose a surgical procedure which will allow them to recover quicker. I would suggest that if your finances allow it you book a consultation with Gagner and a consultation with Ren. After meeting both of them and talking to them you can fairly judge which one you think will best meet your needs and which one you want holding the scalpel. We can discuss this until we are blue in the face but this will not accomplish anything. To really know you have to meet the surgeon and talk to the post-ops while you are waiting to see the surgeon. The good thing is that the post-ops are usually there in the waiting area. > I wonder if Dr. Ren just likes doing the RNY because its easier? From what I > > have heard about her (with the unmentionable surgery) and those comments > > about RNY and lap band, makes me wonder about her.>>>>>> > > Carol: I don't know Dr. Ren personally but I've heard she's a reputable > surgeon and have known people who were very happy with their surgeries > performed by her. > > I think perhaps she's really gung-ho on the lapband because she wants to make > a 'niche' for herself here.. I don't know of other surgeons in the area who > are doing this at this time.... Maybe she wants to diversify and become the > 'expert' in that particular surgery? > > all the best, > > lap ds with gallbladder removal > January 25, 2001 > > six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! > > pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 9 1/2 " ) > now: 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I met Dr.Ren while she was working with Dr.Gagner. She was extremely personable and friendly. Knowing what I know now including the fatality I would quite likely choose Dr.Ren. Having a surgeon that you can talk to and who you feel is concerned with your life and the factors therein is comforting. And from what I have read NYU patients actually receive care from the nursing staff which, I can tell you from personal experience MT Sinai patients do not. I believe that she reccommends the type of surgery that she believes is best for the individual. I don't think that she went through the grief of learning DS just to turn around and not reccommend it based on the difficulty of the procedure. No one here is really ready to admit it but from what I have seen and experienced recovery from DS is harder than recovery from RNY or from Lap Band. I suspect that if you were to survey a list of surgeons who perform DS and RNY you would find that most reccommend RNY first. Most of the RNY people I know resumed many of their daily household work and care of children in less than a week. I do not have any children but I can tell you that for the first two weeks I could barely take care of myself let alone care for children or a family. If you have a saint for a spouse and angels for children then maybe DS is more of an option. But I think that it is important to realize that while we chose DS it is not the only answer. Some people because of their lifestyle and activity level may need to choose a surgical procedure which will allow them to recover quicker. I would suggest that if your finances allow it you book a consultation with Gagner and a consultation with Ren. After meeting both of them and talking to them you can fairly judge which one you think will best meet your needs and which one you want holding the scalpel. We can discuss this until we are blue in the face but this will not accomplish anything. To really know you have to meet the surgeon and talk to the post-ops while you are waiting to see the surgeon. The good thing is that the post-ops are usually there in the waiting area. > I wonder if Dr. Ren just likes doing the RNY because its easier? From what I > > have heard about her (with the unmentionable surgery) and those comments > > about RNY and lap band, makes me wonder about her.>>>>>> > > Carol: I don't know Dr. Ren personally but I've heard she's a reputable > surgeon and have known people who were very happy with their surgeries > performed by her. > > I think perhaps she's really gung-ho on the lapband because she wants to make > a 'niche' for herself here.. I don't know of other surgeons in the area who > are doing this at this time.... Maybe she wants to diversify and become the > 'expert' in that particular surgery? > > all the best, > > lap ds with gallbladder removal > January 25, 2001 > > six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! > > pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 9 1/2 " ) > now: 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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