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Hey wait!

It seems that we are losing the very people we want to keep on this list. I,

personally, need Joe and others who are farther along the DS trail than I am.

I hope that those who stated they would leave will change their minds. I

hate the thought of being left alone in the middle of the battlefield, yet I

truly need DS support at this point.

It seems as though the group will split in two, with one list for those who

are interested in DS info and support, but not into protracted confrontation

and fighting, and those who chose to fight.

Wherever the peaceful DSers end up, don't forget me.

Dawna

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Is it possible to dispense with talk of Petitions?

In the last 12 hours there have been 30 posts on the subject.

10 of them by the same member.

This reminds me of a Philosophy Argument. It can go on and on

and on 'ad nauseum'. Some differences of opinion are simply

too emotional to be settled with any clear resolve.

The posts, both pro and con now dominate the theme of this

group. This is not what I hoped to discover and ponder when I

joined this group. I had anticipated that issues would pertain to

the DS WLS experience. While Deb's issues certainly center on

that, the rest of you have moved past that and made her status a

'cause celebre'.

I am going to follow Joe's wise lead and disentangle myself from

this hornet's nest. I am facing surgery in 1 month and I can tell

you, I have different priorities these last 4 weeks than hashing

out this conundrum. I will also unsubscribe. I hope everyone will

take a good look at the direction this group is taking. Maybe the

group ought to be renamed or something. It sure is misleading

to think of it as the 'Open duodenal group' right now.

disappointed,

gobo

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I agree. This is enough already. I have been so blessed to meet wonderful

and supportive people on this list and the thrill is gone. I just don't want

to read about this anymore. I want to learn and also help and support

others. I feel very badly for the people who have been hurt and feeling

badly in this group. It has been a positive for so many. I too am going to

let this calm down and will go back on in a few weeks. Ellen(Pam

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no, it is not possible to dispense with talk of petitions. and you have

seen me reposting it because i am cleaning it up, compiling all the

names on one and reposting a neater version. some of us feel that an

injustice has been done, and we have a right to stand together and say

so. it is the nature of protest to continue to protest until one has

accomplished their goal, or until one is forcefully silenced. use the

delete button. i know i do.

and teresa, ruisha@..., deb *is* on moderated (read:

edited/censored) status. i frankly don't care what she calls ren, a

butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, she can say whatever she

pleases! i feel it's paranoid to believe that the list or it's members

could be in any legal danger because of deb expressing her opinion of

her surgeon. i've seen folks elsewhere express the same sentiments

about drs they've known and none of the list members there quake in the

boots because of potential 'slander'. one person, on one globally

inconsequential list, is not going to stir up a supreme court case!

shutting up deb isn't about legal issues, it's about her pushing buttons

that people would rather not have pushed. it's about her compromising

the comfort level of the defensive and the timid. it's ridiculous and

there's no place for it an a so called 'open' forum.

erika

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Hang in there Dawna-- I have declared a unilateral cease fire and will chew my tongue off before I rejoin the fray. If we just hang in there, the ones who have gone no-mail will come back. We have to keep this list up and running for all our sakes. None of us can go this surgery alone. Sanity will prevail -- it will just take a while for the sloshing to subside in our tempestuous tea pot.

Nan E (who actually has great faith in the power of groups to heal themselves).

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I know I dont post here very often but I read EVERY

SINGLE MESSAGE! PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE THE GROUP PLEASE,

I know I need you guys, you guys have been very

helpful in the past. And now that I met with the

surgeon and I am waiting for the results of my test I

know I will need you more now that I am slated for

surgery!

Lisbeth

--- DawnaJoy1@... wrote:

> Hey wait!

>

> It seems that we are losing the very people we want

> to keep on this list. I,

> personally, need Joe and others who are farther

> along the DS trail than I am.

>

>

> I hope that those who stated they would leave will

> change their minds. I

> hate the thought of being left alone in the middle

> of the battlefield, yet I

> truly need DS support at this point.

>

> It seems as though the group will split in two, with

> one list for those who

> are interested in DS info and support, but not into

> protracted confrontation

> and fighting, and those who chose to fight.

>

> Wherever the peaceful DSers end up, don't forget me.

>

> Dawna

>

>

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>

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