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I am so shocked and saddened that this group has come to this. Have we all

forgotten that Deb/Ciar is a PERSON? One who is SUFFERING GREATLY?

Whatever the cause, whatever the reason - but for the grace of G-d, it could

be any one of us. In the volumes of posts that have come through in the

last few days, both pro and con, has any one bothered to inquire as to how

Deb is getting on lately? Stop and ask yourselves - " Am I helping Deb OR

this group in any way by what I am doing? "

Of course we all want a forum where we can be truthful - warts and all. I

don't think anyone is looking for a sugar coating (that's what got half of

us here to begin with ; 0> ). However, there are always going to be

disagreements amongst people. We all bring many different traits,

backgrounds, experiences, and outlooks to the table - so much the better!

The true test is how we, as a group, will deal with this friction.

Why do we join this list? I thought that we were all here for the greater

good - helping each other get through to the other side with as much

support, knowledge, humor, and COMPASSION as we can summons for each other.

People in pain will lash out - and sometimes we just need to let them

because we want what's best for each other. Sometimes, that is what's best.

If you don't like reading certain points of view perhaps you might do what I

tell the kids in my first grade class to do all the time: ignore it because

you cannot change the other person - but they will get bored and tired and

then they'll stop! In other words, if you don't like a thread, don't

respond to it. If it does not elicit much response, the thread will

eventually fizzle out.

The only reason that I'm not following my own advice here is that I thought

that this post might serve as a compromise of sorts. A white flag, if you

will...Believe me, if there are no takers and this whole thing backfires on

me I will certainly heed my own words (I might have to eat 'em too)

I'm just trying to find a way around this roadblock. Let's get back to

helping each other...I know we can do it...

from Philly

BMI 63, age 39

Open DS w/ Dr. Pomp, 9am on Wed., June 20, 2001

Aetna USHC, HMO - Doc thinks they will pay!

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