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After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

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Hi Dean,

Why do you believe a larger pouch would be beneficial to you? As far as I know, its a "one size fits all" kind of operation.

Best of luck to you!

Barbara (LTLJSMOM)

From: Dean Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:32 AMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: variable size pouches?

After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

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I dont think they offer varied sizes, i think the surgery for that is the lap band which kaiser does not cover to my knowledge

colleenDean wrote:

After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

dean

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Nope. No choice in pouch size. But at two weeks out,

the meals in my stage three plan are over half a cup.

Most people farther out can eat more than that at a

sitting. The pouch does grow.

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AS I am sure you have heard from others one size fits all. Kaiser

doesn't make some larger or some smaller. They just do one size. I am

2 and a half years out and I can eat about 3/4 cup of food depending

on what it is. It is normal that the pouch stretches out a bit the

further you get out. It always depends on how you use the tool you

are given. The size may seem extreme but it is amazing after you have

surgery you don't feel hungery and you feel full after eating so

little.

Ramona

> After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are

procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a

quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices

about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of

a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight

loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

> dean

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it gets larger as it heals and i have read that it is healed by 6 months out and normally will hod about 8 oz.. i am a yr out and i can not eat that much and even less in meats,

take care

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Nope. No choice in pouch size. But at two weeks out,the meals in my stage three plan are over half a cup. Most people farther out can eat more than that at asitting. The pouch does grow.Laurie ____________________________________________________Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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That is what I am looking forward to...the " full feeling " after

eating very little.

Jeanne

> > After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are

> procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of

a

> quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices

> about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more

of

> a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make

weight

> loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

> > dean

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It seems to me that it's not the pouch that grows, it's how fast the

food goes out of the pouch. I think it has to do with the " stoma "

(valve that lets the food out of the pouch) relaxing somewhat after

healing from surgery.

I'm nearly 15 months post-op, and I can definitely eat more than I

could a year ago except when it's dense food like meats and some raw

vegies. I eat slower and [try to remember to] chew thoroughly and by

the time I get halfway through the food, I think some of it has

exited my pouch and gone into the intestines. But that's when I take

30 to 40 minutes to eat a meal.

However, I definitely cannot eat anywhere close to what I was able to

stuff down pre-op. So, after loosing 140 pounds off my formerly 315

pound body, I guess my surgery & program after, has been a success!

(even though I'm having a difficult time getting off this last 40

pounds, that I want to loose!)

--Sandi

> After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are

procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a

quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices

about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of

a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight

loss slower but I am willing to accept this.

> dean

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Dean...

The thing that is hard for you to imagine from your standpoint is that when your pouch is small, you won't want it to be bigger. You won't miss it. Yes, sometimes it is frustrating not to be able to eat more...but that's just a psychological thing that occurs very rarely. And, as you proceed along the journey, you will be able to eat more. I think Sandi is right, in large part, the food will be able to exit a bit more quickly..but also, the pouch also increases with time, in addition.

I think our pouches all vary a bit in size, anyway. But, studies have shown that really it's not the size of the pouch that is determinative. Rather, it's how much we individually change our lifestyle (exercise, proper vitamins, hydration and portion size.)

You can always ask for a larger pouch...but in the end, I wonder why you feel like you'd do better with a larger pouch?

Robynn

"Sandi H." wrote:

It seems to me that it's not the pouch that grows, it's how fast the b food goes out of the pouch. I think it has to do with the "stoma" (valve that lets the food out of the pouch) relaxing somewhat after healing from surgery.I'm nearly 15 months post-op, and I can definitely eat more than I could a year ago except when it's dense food like meats and some raw vegies. I eat slower and [try to remember to] chew thoroughly and by the time I get halfway through the food, I think some of it has exited my pouch and gone into the intestines. But that's when I take 30 to 40 minutes to eat a meal.However, I definitely cannot eat anywhere close to what I was able to stuff down pre-op. So, after loosing 140 pounds off my formerly 315 pound body, I guess my surgery & program after, has been a

success!(even though I'm having a difficult time getting off this last 40 pounds, that I want to loose!)--Sandi> After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight loss slower but I am willing to accept this.> dean

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It's more than feeling full. It's the strange phenomenon of not feeling obsessed about food. That's the miracle of it. I'm no longer obsessed with food. I just feel normal about it, you know? No longer looking at people wondering how in the heck they could buy a dessert at a restaurant and NOT finish it. I mean, really...it didn't matter how freaking full I was, I would ALWAYS find room for dessert.

Something has clicked in me, and food just doesn't hold the same interest to me. So, yes, I do feel sated, full...but I just don't have that obsessive/compulsive draw towards food. I hope that continues, but so far, it is incredibly liberating.

Robynntopazmisskitty wrote:

That is what I am looking forward to...the "full feeling" after eating very little.Jeanne> > After visiting the psychogist I was wondering if there are > procedures that make pouches/stomachs of varying sizes? A meal of a > quarter cup still seems rather extreme to me. Do they have choices > about how much you are left with. It seems to me I would have more of > a chance being successful with a larger size. This would make weight > loss slower but I am willing to accept this.> > dean

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