Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi everyone, This week I suffered from a scary episode that I at first thought was a flare (pain, vomiting), but a high fever that accompanied it led ER docs to get blood cultures done and they discovered the episode was bacteria-related. My question is this: Has anyone else had these kinds of bacteria cause an illness and, more importantly end up in the bloodstream? Overgrowing in my blood were/are the following: -Viridans streptococci (naturally present in the mouth) -Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron (natrually present in the gastro tract, and apparently act to help digest plan polysaccharides) -E. Coli (naturally present in the lower gastro tract) I'm wondering if this is something that often happens with Crohnies who bleed, or in Leaky Gut Syndrome. Neither of these have described me until now, but I'd be interested to see if anyone with these symptoms/syndromes has had this experience. I am at a loss to explain how this happened, and my medical doc is no help. I've had to take Flagyl, but got it compounded, so I hope there will be limited damage to the progress I've made with SCD. Thanks, Bronwyn Crohns, SCD 14 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Bronwyn, my husband has crohns and one of his very first symptoms was a swollen ankle, eventually we found out that when crohns flares, the toxins are absorbed into the bloodstream and affect the weakest area. In his case, that was his ankle, he has a history of having pulled his ligaments years ago. Once his crohns was under control, the swelling went and he has had no problem since. Our GP says that crohns affects all layers of the bowel, and the toxins cross the blood barrier and infect other areas so we are always alert for unusual sore joints or areas when we know he hasn't done anything because he has a very high pain threshold and his flares become advanced very quickly because he doesn't feel them. good luck, the diet works he is now medication free after 11 months on the diet. jena Hi everyone,This week I suffered from a scary episode that I at first thought was a flare (pain, vomiting), but a high fever that accompanied it led ER docs to get blood cultures done and they discovered the episode was bacteria-related. My question is this:Has anyone else had these kinds of bacteria cause an illness and, more importantly end up in the bloodstream? Overgrowing in my blood were/are the following:-Viridans streptococci (naturally present in the mouth) -Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron (natrually present in the gastro tract, and apparently act to help digest plan polysaccharides)-E. Coli (naturally present in the lower gastro tract)I'm wondering if this is something that often happens with Crohnies who bleed, or in Leaky Gut Syndrome. Neither of these have described me until now, but I'd be interested to see if anyone with these symptoms/syndromes has had this experience. I am at a loss to explain how this happened, and my medical doc is no help. I've had to take Flagyl, but got it compounded, so I hope there will be limited damage to the progress I've made with SCD. Thanks, BronwynCrohns, SCD 14 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks Jena-- this is really good ammunition for me to go to my doc with. The combination of symptoms and the reality that in Crohn's toxins/bacteria could cross the blood barrier should help me get some movement on this issue with her. Of course, I still have complete faith in my SCD journey, but I want to make sure that this isn't something that needs some specific medical or surgical attention. Bronwyn > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > This week I suffered from a scary episode that I at first thought was a > > flare (pain, vomiting), but a high fever that accompanied it led ER docs to > > get blood cultures done and they discovered the episode was > > bacteria-related. > > > > My question is this: > > Has anyone else had these kinds of bacteria cause an illness and, more > > importantly end up in the bloodstream? > > > > Overgrowing in my blood were/are the following: > > -Viridans streptococci (naturally present in the mouth) > > > > -Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron (natrually present in the gastro tract, and > > apparently act to help digest plan polysaccharides) > > > > -E. Coli (naturally present in the lower gastro tract) > > > > I'm wondering if this is something that often happens with Crohnies who > > bleed, or in Leaky Gut Syndrome. Neither of these have described me until > > now, but I'd be interested to see if anyone with these symptoms/syndromes > > has had this experience. > > > > I am at a loss to explain how this happened, and my medical doc is no help. > > I've had to take Flagyl, but got it compounded, so I hope there will be > > limited damage to the progress I've made with SCD. > > > > Thanks, > > Bronwyn > > Crohns, SCD 14 months > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Actually, just to clarify: had you found out that bacteria as well as their byproducts were crossing through the intestinal wall and into the bloodstream, or was it only the toxic by-products that were found in your husband's blood? thanks, Bronwyn > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > This week I suffered from a scary episode that I at first thought was a > > > flare (pain, vomiting), but a high fever that accompanied it led ER docs to > > > get blood cultures done and they discovered the episode was > > > bacteria-related. > > > > > > My question is this: > > > Has anyone else had these kinds of bacteria cause an illness and, more > > > importantly end up in the bloodstream? > > > > > > Overgrowing in my blood were/are the following: > > > -Viridans streptococci (naturally present in the mouth) > > > > > > -Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron (natrually present in the gastro tract, and > > > apparently act to help digest plan polysaccharides) > > > > > > -E. Coli (naturally present in the lower gastro tract) > > > > > > I'm wondering if this is something that often happens with Crohnies who > > > bleed, or in Leaky Gut Syndrome. Neither of these have described me until > > > now, but I'd be interested to see if anyone with these symptoms/syndromes > > > has had this experience. > > > > > > I am at a loss to explain how this happened, and my medical doc is no help. > > > I've had to take Flagyl, but got it compounded, so I hope there will be > > > limited damage to the progress I've made with SCD. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bronwyn > > > Crohns, SCD 14 months > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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