Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 <> Well it was based on his own comments from his essay the DSswitch site... if he has an updated view in light of more and more success stories for DS Lap I will enjoy reading it! The more surgeons doing the DS and DS lap the better. Still if he is newly doing DS lap I would prefer to go to surgeon who has done many DS Laps .... the stats show complication rates are in direct proportion to how experienced the surgeon is in lap procedures. I think I would even prefer a DS open procedure if the surgeon hadn't at least assisted in quite a few DS laps. mary bmi 68 corona, ca pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin cigna ppo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 Tom_ Re: Open vs. Lap You have, with no doubt whatsoever, proved that you know more about bariatric surgery than any other human being on the face of the earth. I am humbled to be in a group with someone who is the undisputed smartest man in the world! Do remember, from your tower of omniscience, that there are major issues upon which very intelligent people can differ and that each can be accorded a little respect. You still fail to acknowledge that any presenter before such a group is someone who knows something - probably more than even you. Have you been invited to present somewhere other than here? Remember, too, that the invitation to post here is self generated. Needless to say, this was written with my tongue firmly implanted in my cheek. Best - Nick in Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 You are not eligible to have a lap done by Dr Baltasar. It is available only to citizens of his country. Hopefully whoever updates his site will do so. However, once he did let it be known that he did the lap he was inundated with would-be patients begging for it. Perhaps leaving the internet literate non Spanish folks with the impression that he doesn't offer the lap is pretty astute, I think. This is the man whose videos are used by newbie DS surgeons wanting to learn the techniques. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- > < > > > Well it was based on his own comments from his essay the DSswitch > site... if he has an updated view in light of more and more success > stories for DS Lap I will enjoy reading it! The more surgeons doing > the DS and DS lap the better. > > Still if he is newly doing DS lap I would prefer to go to surgeon who > has done many DS Laps .... the stats show complication rates are in > direct proportion to how experienced the surgeon is in lap > procedures. > > I think I would even prefer a DS open procedure if the surgeon hadn't > at least assisted in quite a few DS laps. > > mary bmi 68 > corona, ca > pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin > cigna ppo > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 <<<<< >>>>> Yawn. I guess everyone who disagrees with you gets the second degree, eh? I HAVE had my surgery, it was laparoscopic and I wouldn't have done it any other way. I was out of the hospital in three days and didn't experience any serious complications. Not that people don't with lap, I've known people who do whether they have lap or open, but my experience was extremely positive. I did not have any ng tubes and such and I do not think this is common practice with laparoscopic surgery. At least, it is not with my surgeon and his practice. I never went to the ICU but woke up in the OR after the surgery while waiting to get a bed in recovery. My breathing tube was out already but I did have the catheter in until the following morning. I had two abdominal drainage tubes which were removed before I was discharged (they were located in the same area on the right side). I've heard of others who didnt have any drainage tubes or only one drainage tube, but I had two. Laparoscopic surgery can decrease hospital stay and recovery time but it is the same surgery underneath. I would never had done it open but those who chose that route have their reasons (and perhaps some of those reasons are medically viable ones -- like serious adhesions from previous surgery, desire not to be under anesthesia for longer periods of time and such). My surgery took three hours and I had a BPD/DS and gallbladder removal. All the best, lap DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/DR. Quinn assisting, Mt. Sinai, NYC January 25, 2001 four months post-op and still feelin' fab! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) now: 253 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 > where did you find the list for insurance companies for dr.anthone? I think I mentioned, or at least I certainly SHOULD have mentioned, that the list to which I referred is for the University of Southern California University Hospital, where Dr. Anthone performs his surgeries. (He's also a professor at the USC Medical School.) The list of insurance companies accepted by the hospital can be found at this address: http://www.uscuh.com/Services/Insurance.cfm> Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 Laparoscopic surgery can decrease hospital stay and recovery time but it is the same surgery underneath. I would never had done it open but those who chose that route have their reasons (and perhaps some of those reasons are medically viable ones -- like serious adhesions from previous surgery, desire not to be under anesthesia for longer periods of time and such). My surgery took three hours and I had a BPD/DS and gallbladder removal. All the best, lap DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/DR. Quinn assisting, Mt. Sinai, NYC January 25, 2001 four months post-op and still feelin' fab! But Sweetie, some of us are way beyond your BMI of 45-- and believe me, it is a WHOLE different thing. I have a BMI of 71. They can't DO a lap on me. SO it isn't a matter of choice for some of us. I'm glad you are doing well. I hope I will as well after my OPEN BPD/DS. Nan E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 > You have, with no doubt whatsoever, proved that you know more about > bariatric surgery than any other human being on the face of the > earth. I am humbled to be in a group with someone who is the > undisputed smartest man in the world! Gee, << >>, coming from you that means ... nothing whatsoever. > Do remember, from your tower of omniscience, that there are major > issues upon which very intelligent people can differ and that each > can be accorded a little respect. Actually, I don't have a tower of omniscience, because I'm afraid of heights. Instead, I have a really big ranch house of omniscience. > You still fail to acknowledge that any presenter before > such a group is someone who knows something - probably > more than even you. I take it you are referring to Dr. Schauer? I never failed to acknowledge that he knows something. I'm sure he knows a great deal -- about the RNY. What I cannot fathom is why you would think he knows anything about the DS -- a surgey which he has apparently never performed? > Have you been invited to present somewhere other than here? No, but I've been told where to go many times. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 -- , I just want you to know that I appreciate all your documentation. Some of us are not as skilled at research as others. Thank you, Shirley - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 I had an open DS. No NG tube No drainage tubes in abdomen Yes Foley catheter Yes solid food before leaving the hospital. I dearly wanted a lap. It just didn't work out that way. I certainly recommend a lap to the folks I talk with. And I'm happy with my open. My final decision was to have the open rather than wait another 3 months for a lap. It was the right decision for me. Others differ in their preferences. That makes perfect sense to me. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- > <<<<< of the lap rather than the open procedure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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