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Yes Dawn, what Dr. Rabkin/ Dr. Jossart do is called

Lap Assisted....contact their office and I am sure

they can assist with any questions you may have.

(And by the way...you are not in danger of being

mobbed by one of the fanatical followers of a certain

extremely competent and skilled, experienced

doctor in Delano! Gosh Tom....do you feel you need to

slam people just for the hell of it ? Stick to first

hand facts....you do speak intelligently about those

things.....or better yet...no...enough said...)

....very sad to hear your take on everything

concerning the petition....suprised me....and even

more dismayed at the do some good for people...take

real action judgemental comment....People dont see me

post much because I typically respond privately to

people to keep traffic down....I am there for more pre

and post ops than I care to think of at times...and

have a busy life away from this arena often....I do

alot to support people...regardless of their choice of

surgeon, whether they had good or bad outcomes,

etc....my phone bill is proof as is the mileage on my

car !! ANd....I strongly recommend all 5 Calif

docs...depending on your criteria, location,

insurance, financial abilities, style/preference for

lap/open, etc....so.....anyway.....sure wish some of

the December prayer vigil magic was here....makes me

really sad. And please.......Nobody needs to

respond...Really !!! JJ....saying Peace seems stupid

at this point.

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Janice, I'm weary of seeing the utter fabrications that are being put forth

in this whole issue. The file in the DS files is based on a complete lie.

Deb is *not* being censored, and she *is* free to be a " regular " member of

this list. Whomever it is that wrote that silly petition has ignored

reality. And I have to think that most of the people who have put their name

to that petition simply weren't aware that it wasn't based in fact.

M.

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in Valrico, FL, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 156

Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

Direct replies: mailto:melanie@...

> Re: Dawn, .......

>

>

> Yes Dawn, what Dr. Rabkin/ Dr. Jossart do is called

> Lap Assisted....contact their office and I am sure

> they can assist with any questions you may have.

>

> (And by the way...you are not in danger of being

> mobbed by one of the fanatical followers of a certain

> extremely competent and skilled, experienced

> doctor in Delano! Gosh Tom....do you feel you need to

> slam people just for the hell of it ? Stick to first

> hand facts....you do speak intelligently about those

> things.....or better yet...no...enough said...)

>

> ....very sad to hear your take on everything

> concerning the petition....suprised me....and even

> more dismayed at the do some good for people...take

> real action judgemental comment....People dont see me

> post much because I typically respond privately to

> people to keep traffic down....I am there for more pre

> and post ops than I care to think of at times...and

> have a busy life away from this arena often....I do

> alot to support people...regardless of their choice of

> surgeon, whether they had good or bad outcomes,

> etc....my phone bill is proof as is the mileage on my

> car !! ANd....I strongly recommend all 5 Calif

> docs...depending on your criteria, location,

> insurance, financial abilities, style/preference for

> lap/open, etc....so.....anyway.....sure wish some of

> the December prayer vigil magic was here....makes me

> really sad. And please.......Nobody needs to

> respond...Really !!! JJ....saying Peace seems stupid

> at this point.

>

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I am very sad to see you take this sides on this rather than maintaining

your usual fair and even handed role on the list.

Deb has posted (in other places) some of her " moderated " posts that were not

allowed to be put on this list. Perhaps you consider " moderating " not

" censorship " , but as a moderator on other Yahoo lists, quite frankly I am

used to seeing folks censored in exactly that way. Yes, I have done it and

know that is one purpose of " moderating " a list member.

The posts from Deb require approval of one of the moderators or owners. I

think in our society that fits exactly with the definition of censorship.

in Seattle

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> Janice, I'm weary of seeing the utter fabrications that are being put

forth

> in this whole issue. The file in the DS files is based on a complete lie.

> Deb is *not* being censored, and she *is* free to be a " regular " member of

> this list. Whomever it is that wrote that silly petition has ignored

> reality. And I have to think that most of the people who have put their

name

> to that petition simply weren't aware that it wasn't based in fact.

>

> M.

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> ,

> I am very sad to see you take this sides on this rather than maintaining

> your usual fair and even handed role on the list.

>

> Deb has posted (in other places) some of her " moderated " posts

> that were not allowed to be put on this list. Perhaps you consider

> " moderating " not " censorship " , but as a moderator on other Yahoo lists,

> quite frankly I am used to seeing folks censored in exactly that way.

> Yes, I have done it and know that is one purpose of " moderating " a list

> member.

>

> The posts from Deb require approval of one of the moderators or owners. I

> think in our society that fits exactly with the definition of censorship.

, I'm sorry -- you are working under a misconception, I guess. Deb is

not on moderated or banned status on this list. She has never been banned or

moderated. She *has* been asked to abide by the same list rules that

everyone else is asked to abide by. If she has posted things elsewhere and

stated that they were censored here, she's not telling the truth. Them's the

facts.

M.

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in Valrico, FL, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 156

Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

Direct replies: mailto:melanie@...

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STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT FOR GODS SAKE PLEEEEEASE STOP IT

RE: Re: Dawn, .......

> > ,> > I am very sad to see you take this sides on this rather than maintaining> > your usual fair and even handed role on the list.> >> > Deb has posted (in other places) some of her "moderated" posts> > that were not allowed to be put on this list. Perhaps you consider> > "moderating" not "censorship", but as a moderator on other Yahoo lists,> > quite frankly I am used to seeing folks censored in exactly that way.> > Yes, I have done it and know that is one purpose of "moderating" a list> > member.> >> > The posts from Deb require approval of one of the moderators or owners. I> > think in our society that fits exactly with the definition of censorship.> > , I'm sorry -- you are working under a misconception, I guess. Deb is> not on moderated or banned status on this list. She has never been banned or> moderated. She *has* been asked to abide by the same list rules that> everyone else is asked to abide by. If she has posted things elsewhere and> stated that they were censored here, she's not telling the truth. Them's the> facts.> > M.> > ---> in Valrico, FL, age 38> Starting weight 299, now 156> Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0> Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99> http://www.duodenalswitch.com> > Direct replies: mailto:melanie@...> > > _________________________________________________________>

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