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So...apparently, I need to lose another 26 lbs. before I am no longer

considered " overweight " . At 5'6 " , that's 154 lbs, for those of you in

the same boat.

I'll get there. It's just amazing to me that I deluded myself

sometimes into thinking I wasn't " THAT " fat when I weighed 80 lbs more

than I do now, you know? And here I need to lose another 26 to get

down to a normal weight. Meaning: I was 106 lbs. overweight, and yet

somehow convincing myself that I was not morbidly obese.

Dr. Fisher's goal for me is 145. I think I'd like to aim for 135,

maybe even 130. So, I have somewhere between 35 and 50 lbs. to go to

get to the goals set for me (either by him, or by me!) If I lose 50,

that will be a total of 130 lbs. Yikes. I can do it, though...I mean,

I'm only slightly over 3 months out. I " ve lost 55 lbs. in the first 3

months...I can lose another 35 to 50 lbs. in the next 4 or 5, I think.

i hope. I'm sure.

So, for the skin thing, I'm going to give the body wrap treatments a

try. I figure it can't hurt...if nothing else, it's probably

relaxing. I'm already doing some massage. I'm hoping to avoid plastic

surgery (as I hate scars)...but we'll see how the skin cooperates.

I'm feeling more calm about seeing . For one thing, I've sent

recent full body shots. It took me a while to do that. I had told him

that I was overweight, etc...that I was " in process " . But, I finally

sent him the full whammy. He still finds me beautiful, so hopefully

that will not be an issue in reality.

I just wish I had the energy to exercise more. I haven't been

exercising so much lately. Too tired. yes, I do day to day exercise

in that my life is somewhat active (when I'm not in my bed, exhausted

beyond measure!!)...but I'm not back to my pre-surgery level yet. I'm

just taking a long time to get back into the swing of things. Patience

is a virtue that I've never been blessed to possess.

Anyway...all the news that is fit to print.

Robynn

Surgery 6/8/05

orientation: 261.5

weight at surgery: 235.5

current weight: 180

height; 5'6 "

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I went to dinner with a friend from where I use to work last night

and we were talking about how when we look in the mirror we don't

truly see just how " big " we are (or for some of us, how " small " we

are). This weekend we were watching some home videos taken from

Christmas-time. I saw myself in the video and alls I could think was

how incredibly horrible and fat I looked. Disgusting. Yet, I don't

ever remember thinking, like you Robin, that I was morbidly obese

and that I was that fat. Hello! What a wake up call. I've lost 101.5

pounds since orientation. I have 63.5 pounds to go to get to my goal

of 165 pounds (although I'm leaning toward 155 but we'll see). I'm

still in the obese category at 228.5.

I can now understand how anerexic (sp?) people look in the mirror

and see themselves as fat, even though we see them as sickenly thin.

The mind certainly does play tricks on us!

Keep getting the rest that you need and the intensity of your

exercise will pick up as you get your energy back. My workouts are

not near as intense either. I have good weeks (lots of energy) and

not so good weeks (like this week when I feel like a slug). My

exercise goes in cycles.

You look marvelous Robynn. Simply marvelous. Keep up the GREAT work.

Tina

5/24/05

Orientation: 330

Surgery: 294

Today: 228.5

Goal: 155-165

> So...apparently, I need to lose another 26 lbs. before I am no

longer

> considered " overweight " . At 5'6 " , that's 154 lbs, for those of

you in

> the same boat.

>

> I'll get there. It's just amazing to me that I deluded myself

> sometimes into thinking I wasn't " THAT " fat when I weighed 80 lbs

more

> than I do now, you know? And here I need to lose another 26 to

get

> down to a normal weight. Meaning: I was 106 lbs. overweight, and

yet

> somehow convincing myself that I was not morbidly obese.

>

> Dr. Fisher's goal for me is 145. I think I'd like to aim for 135,

> maybe even 130. So, I have somewhere between 35 and 50 lbs. to go

to

> get to the goals set for me (either by him, or by me!) If I lose

50,

> that will be a total of 130 lbs. Yikes. I can do it, though...I

mean,

> I'm only slightly over 3 months out. I " ve lost 55 lbs. in the

first 3

> months...I can lose another 35 to 50 lbs. in the next 4 or 5, I

think.

> i hope. I'm sure.

>

> So, for the skin thing, I'm going to give the body wrap treatments

a

> try. I figure it can't hurt...if nothing else, it's probably

> relaxing. I'm already doing some massage. I'm hoping to avoid

plastic

> surgery (as I hate scars)...but we'll see how the skin cooperates.

>

> I'm feeling more calm about seeing . For one thing, I've sent

> recent full body shots. It took me a while to do that. I had

told him

> that I was overweight, etc...that I was " in process " . But, I

finally

> sent him the full whammy. He still finds me beautiful, so

hopefully

> that will not be an issue in reality.

>

> I just wish I had the energy to exercise more. I haven't been

> exercising so much lately. Too tired. yes, I do day to day

exercise

> in that my life is somewhat active (when I'm not in my bed,

exhausted

> beyond measure!!)...but I'm not back to my pre-surgery level yet.

I'm

> just taking a long time to get back into the swing of things.

Patience

> is a virtue that I've never been blessed to possess.

>

> Anyway...all the news that is fit to print.

>

> Robynn

> Surgery 6/8/05

> orientation: 261.5

> weight at surgery: 235.5

> current weight: 180

> height; 5'6 "

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Tina and Robynn, I never had that thought process. I

knew I was big and obese, etc. I never looked in the

mirror though. My thought process was that I already

knew how I looked so I didn't need to affirm it by

looking at myself in the mirror. I suppose we get so

used to hearing people say things to us like " you are

beautiful or you have such a pretty face " that that

over shadows what we are really dealing with.

I am seven months post op wearing a size 8 petite with

20 more pounds to reach my goal weight of 130. I

never got a goal weight from my surgeon and the last

time I saw her she said I looked great that I did not

look like I had ever had a weight problem and it did

not look like I had surgery. I don't have much

sagging skin and my skin is tight so I am thankful for

that. I am not sure if I will try to get to 130 or

not as I stated earlier, I am wearing 8 petite. I

don't think I want to be smaller than a six so I might

loose another 10 pounds and if I loose the 20 all the

better.

You guys have done great so hang in there.

Pam Marsh

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I went to dinner with a friend from where I use to

> work last night

> and we were talking about how when we look in the

> mirror we don't

> truly see just how " big " we are (or for some of us,

> how " small " we

> are). This weekend we were watching some home videos

> taken from

> Christmas-time. I saw myself in the video and alls I

> could think was

> how incredibly horrible and fat I looked.

> Disgusting. Yet, I don't

> ever remember thinking, like you Robin, that I was

> morbidly obese

> and that I was that fat. Hello! What a wake up call.

> I've lost 101.5

> pounds since orientation. I have 63.5 pounds to go

> to get to my goal

> of 165 pounds (although I'm leaning toward 155 but

> we'll see). I'm

> still in the obese category at 228.5.

>

> I can now understand how anerexic (sp?) people look

> in the mirror

> and see themselves as fat, even though we see them

> as sickenly thin.

> The mind certainly does play tricks on us!

>

> Keep getting the rest that you need and the

> intensity of your

> exercise will pick up as you get your energy back.

> My workouts are

> not near as intense either. I have good weeks (lots

> of energy) and

> not so good weeks (like this week when I feel like a

> slug). My

> exercise goes in cycles.

>

> You look marvelous Robynn. Simply marvelous. Keep up

> the GREAT work.

>

> Tina

> 5/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Today: 228.5

> Goal: 155-165

>

>

> > So...apparently, I need to lose another 26 lbs.

> before I am no

> longer

> > considered " overweight " . At 5'6 " , that's 154 lbs,

> for those of

> you in

> > the same boat.

> >

> > I'll get there. It's just amazing to me that I

> deluded myself

> > sometimes into thinking I wasn't " THAT " fat when I

> weighed 80 lbs

> more

> > than I do now, you know? And here I need to lose

> another 26 to

> get

> > down to a normal weight. Meaning: I was 106 lbs.

> overweight, and

> yet

> > somehow convincing myself that I was not morbidly

> obese.

> >

> > Dr. Fisher's goal for me is 145. I think I'd like

> to aim for 135,

> > maybe even 130. So, I have somewhere between 35

> and 50 lbs. to go

> to

> > get to the goals set for me (either by him, or by

> me!) If I lose

> 50,

> > that will be a total of 130 lbs. Yikes. I can do

> it, though...I

> mean,

> > I'm only slightly over 3 months out. I " ve lost 55

> lbs. in the

> first 3

> > months...I can lose another 35 to 50 lbs. in the

> next 4 or 5, I

> think.

> > i hope. I'm sure.

> >

> > So, for the skin thing, I'm going to give the body

> wrap treatments

> a

> > try. I figure it can't hurt...if nothing else,

> it's probably

> > relaxing. I'm already doing some massage. I'm

> hoping to avoid

> plastic

> > surgery (as I hate scars)...but we'll see how the

> skin cooperates.

> >

> > I'm feeling more calm about seeing . For one

> thing, I've sent

> > recent full body shots. It took me a while to do

> that. I had

> told him

> > that I was overweight, etc...that I was " in

> process " . But, I

> finally

> > sent him the full whammy. He still finds me

> beautiful, so

> hopefully

> > that will not be an issue in reality.

> >

> > I just wish I had the energy to exercise more. I

> haven't been

> > exercising so much lately. Too tired. yes, I do

> day to day

> exercise

> > in that my life is somewhat active (when I'm not

> in my bed,

> exhausted

> > beyond measure!!)...but I'm not back to my

> pre-surgery level yet.

> I'm

> > just taking a long time to get back into the swing

> of things.

> Patience

> > is a virtue that I've never been blessed to

> possess.

> >

> > Anyway...all the news that is fit to print.

> >

> > Robynn

> > Surgery 6/8/05

> > orientation: 261.5

> > weight at surgery: 235.5

> > current weight: 180

> > height; 5'6 "

>

>

>

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Say Robynn,

I was wondering on your energy level issue....I was lacking energy

until I upped myself to 2 full oz of protien and then another oz of

applesauce with the flax seed in it. It has made ALL the difference

in the world to me since doing that. I checked with Dr Baggs first

and he said as long as I don't snack between meals that it was okay

with him. Plus I am eating a little closer together meal wise, I was

doing every 5 hours- now I am doing 4 to 4 1/2 and then when I do get

exhausted it is at night when it is time to sleep. I have found that

I sleep better as well that way.

Just wanted to share that info with you in case you could find it

useful!

That is amazing that just 26 lbs is considered overweight.

I still find it hard to believe I had let myself go to the point

where I was morbidly obese. I am so happy I have the tool now to

prevent me from going there again.

I am still off the carbs and sugar and I have never felt better. This

am I had to drop my car off at the dealership to have some work done.

THEY didn't recognize me AT all! HA! It was fanatstic!

Hey, You have lost the amount of an Olsen Twin!

Congrats! lol

is going to be enchanted by your beauty in person, I am sure!

You go girl!

Hope you are feeling better today!

Kay

Oh also I talked to someone that is 3 years out from surgery and she

didn't have to have plastics done for the arms and legs. Everything

settled just fine,it takes over a year when at goal weight, but it

will happen. Yay! Good news for us that are scared of scars!

> So...apparently, I need to lose another 26 lbs. before I am no

longer

> considered " overweight " . At 5'6 " , that's 154 lbs, for those of you

in

> the same boat.

>

> I'll get there. It's just amazing to me that I deluded myself

> sometimes into thinking I wasn't " THAT " fat when I weighed 80 lbs

more

> than I do now, you know? And here I need to lose another 26 to get

> down to a normal weight. Meaning: I was 106 lbs. overweight, and

yet

> somehow convincing myself that I was not morbidly obese.

>

> Dr. Fisher's goal for me is 145. I think I'd like to aim for 135,

> maybe even 130. So, I have somewhere between 35 and 50 lbs. to go

to

> get to the goals set for me (either by him, or by me!) If I lose

50,

> that will be a total of 130 lbs. Yikes. I can do it, though...I

mean,

> I'm only slightly over 3 months out. I " ve lost 55 lbs. in the

first 3

> months...I can lose another 35 to 50 lbs. in the next 4 or 5, I

think.

> i hope. I'm sure.

>

> So, for the skin thing, I'm going to give the body wrap treatments

a

> try. I figure it can't hurt...if nothing else, it's probably

> relaxing. I'm already doing some massage. I'm hoping to avoid

plastic

> surgery (as I hate scars)...but we'll see how the skin cooperates.

>

> I'm feeling more calm about seeing . For one thing, I've sent

> recent full body shots. It took me a while to do that. I had told

him

> that I was overweight, etc...that I was " in process " . But, I

finally

> sent him the full whammy. He still finds me beautiful, so

hopefully

> that will not be an issue in reality.

>

> I just wish I had the energy to exercise more. I haven't been

> exercising so much lately. Too tired. yes, I do day to day

exercise

> in that my life is somewhat active (when I'm not in my bed,

exhausted

> beyond measure!!)...but I'm not back to my pre-surgery level yet.

I'm

> just taking a long time to get back into the swing of things.

Patience

> is a virtue that I've never been blessed to possess.

>

> Anyway...all the news that is fit to print.

>

> Robynn

> Surgery 6/8/05

> orientation: 261.5

> weight at surgery: 235.5

> current weight: 180

> height; 5'6 "

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Interesting takes on weight and BMI.

As I mentioned, yesterday I had my initial appointment with the

nutritionist @ Santa Clara. This was the first appointment I've had

since my PCP referred me to the WLS program, so the first time I've

ever talked with anyone " officially " about the process/procedures,

etc. It happened that the nutritionist was someone I already know -

Geraldine Conlon, whom I worked with a few years ago while I was on

Atkins for a while. (Very nice woman, by the way - I definitely

recommend her)

Anyway, she asked me what I wanted as my goal weight. . . I somehow

wasn't expecting that. I don't know why not, I just wasn't. I

expected someone might assign me a goal, and that I probably wouldn't

think it was realistic, but that's the way it's always worked in the

past. So I thought for a moment and decided that 175 sounded about

right for me based on what my mother and sister both seemed to have

as stable, normal weight ranges. I'm 5'6 " , and I know I might be

able to go lower - but I'm not really worried about it. I'd be

willing to settle 10 or 15 pounds higher if that's how it works out.

Heck, my 14-year-old daughter is over 160 and she's a cross-country

runner and bellydancer in great physical shape. . . I'm not likely to

ever be more fit than she is now!

What I'm really concerned about is my ability to move around,

ditching the meds I'm on, and being able to sleep without a CPAP

again than I am about anything else. Although I am looking forward to

buying new clothes in a " normal " store someday!

Cathy C.

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Hi Cathy. I'm Ron, one of those lurkers that posts once in a while. :) I'm writing now to address your last paragragh. Don't let those things get you down or cause you any worry. As you prepare for this journey and lose weight, you will not NEED those meds any longer. And rather than being concerned about not being able to sleep without the CPAP, look forward to the night you'll finally be able to sleep comfortably without it. I know I'm looking forward to losing mine. Even though I sleep wonderfully with it, I want to sleep without it and get through the night. Just try to remain as positive as possible about all this and it'll be a lot easier. Oh, and BTW, happy shopping! :)

Ron

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Interesting takes on weight and BMI.As I mentioned, yesterday I had my initial appointment with the nutritionist @ Santa Clara. This was the first appointment I've had since my PCP referred me to the WLS program, so the first time I've ever talked with anyone "officially" about the process/procedures, etc. It happened that the nutritionist was someone I already know - Geraldine Conlon, whom I worked with a few years ago while I was on Atkins for a while. (Very nice woman, by the way - I definitely recommend her)Anyway, she asked me what I wanted as my goal weight. . . I somehow wasn't expecting that. I don't know why not, I just wasn't. I expected someone might assign me a goal, and that I probably wouldn't think it was realistic, but that's the way it's always worked in the past. So I thought for a moment and decided that 175 sounded about right for me based on what my mother and sister both seemed to have as stable, normal weight ranges. I'm 5'6", and I know I might be able to go lower - but I'm not really worried about it. I'd be willing to settle 10 or 15 pounds higher if that's how it works out. Heck, my 14-year-old daughter is over 160 and she's a cross-country runner and bellydancer in great physical shape. . . I'm not likely to ever be more fit than she is now! What I'm really concerned about is my ability to move around, ditching the meds I'm on, and being able to sleep without a CPAP again than I am about anything else. Although I am looking forward to buying new clothes in a "normal" store someday!Cathy C.

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Ron, I'm not " concerned about " those things because I'm worried about

losing them! I'm concerned about them because they're the reason I

want to have this surgery - I'm really looking forward to getting rid

of the meds, and the CPAP, and the knee pain, and all of it!

But thanks for the encouragement (and thanks to everyone else who's

written, too!) We're talking more about it the last few days, and I

think my DH is starting to see where I'm coming from. It's just a

gradual process (like everything else in life!)

Cathy C.

> Hi Cathy. I'm Ron, one of those lurkers that posts once in a while.

:) I'm writing now to address your last paragragh. Don't let those

things get you down or cause you any worry. As you prepare for this

journey and lose weight, you will not NEED those meds any longer. And

rather than being concerned about not being able to sleep without the

CPAP, look forward to the night you'll finally be able to sleep

comfortably without it. I know I'm looking forward to losing mine.

Even though I sleep wonderfully with it, I want to sleep without it

and get through the night. Just try to remain as positive as possible

about all this and it'll be a lot easier. Oh, and BTW, happy

shopping! :)

>

> Ron

> Re: BMI wars

>

>

> Interesting takes on weight and BMI.

>

> As I mentioned, yesterday I had my initial appointment with the

> nutritionist @ Santa Clara. This was the first appointment I've

had

> since my PCP referred me to the WLS program, so the first time

I've

> ever talked with anyone " officially " about the process/procedures,

> etc. It happened that the nutritionist was someone I already know

-

> Geraldine Conlon, whom I worked with a few years ago while I was

on

> Atkins for a while. (Very nice woman, by the way - I definitely

> recommend her)

>

> Anyway, she asked me what I wanted as my goal weight. . . I

somehow

> wasn't expecting that. I don't know why not, I just wasn't. I

> expected someone might assign me a goal, and that I probably

wouldn't

> think it was realistic, but that's the way it's always worked in

the

> past. So I thought for a moment and decided that 175 sounded

about

> right for me based on what my mother and sister both seemed to

have

> as stable, normal weight ranges. I'm 5'6 " , and I know I might be

> able to go lower - but I'm not really worried about it. I'd be

> willing to settle 10 or 15 pounds higher if that's how it works

out.

> Heck, my 14-year-old daughter is over 160 and she's a cross-

country

> runner and bellydancer in great physical shape. . . I'm not likely

to

> ever be more fit than she is now!

>

> What I'm really concerned about is my ability to move around,

> ditching the meds I'm on, and being able to sleep without a CPAP

> again than I am about anything else. Although I am looking forward

to

> buying new clothes in a " normal " store someday!

>

> Cathy C.

>

>

>

>

>

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