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Let me start by saying that I have NOT decided to go off the diet. I have been

on it for five weeks with mixed results and will give it at least another month.

However, if and when one decides the diet is not working for them how would be

the best way to transition back into a " normal " diet? I imagine if on day one

you just dove right into a huge bowl of pasta and mountain dew with candy for

desert you could go into shock. Any experience with this or advice?

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My dad started the diet in Jan and did it 100 percent for about 5 months. He is treating celiac disease. Then he found LDN and changed his thyroid medication. They both made a big difference in how his stomach felt. He has introduced starch back into his diet and has had no problem. He also added sugar back. He is walking around the house at the moment drinking a lemonade. He does not drink milk. He is also gluten free and will be for the rest of his life because of having celiac, Hashimotos and taking LDN. They say if you want to make sure LDN works you should be gluten free. My dad still has the yoghurt every day. In fact the only times he has been sick is when he does not have the yoghurt. The right probiotics are very important for our stomachs.

Sky and her Dad

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sun, 6 December, 2009 1:53:30 PMSubject: How to go off diet?

Let me start by saying that I have NOT decided to go off the diet. I have been on it for five weeks with mixed results and will give it at least another month. However, if and when one decides the diet is not working for them how would be the best way to transition back into a "normal" diet? I imagine if on day one you just dove right into a huge bowl of pasta and mountain dew with candy for desert you could go into shock. Any experience with this or advice?

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At 09:53 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote:

Any experience with this or

advice?

,

I have no experience with going off the SCD. I never have, not even when

we evacuated for Hurricane Katrina, and although I may ultimately relax

some of my strictness, I never will go off it. I will not go back to the

misery of the 25 years in which doctors told me " Just take a little

lomotil if it bothers you.... "

My advice, first of all, is to ditch the d@mned carrots. They made me

soooo sick, expecially if you are using those so-called " baby "

carrots.

Next, the soup is great, but I came to SCD right after emergency gall

bladder surgery, and could NOT make soup. I ate roasts. I ate steamed and

pureed vegetables. If Beef is too fatty for you, try Bison. Try broiled

chicken breasts, skin removed. Try steamed peeled zucchini.

I understand you are scared. I understand you want to go back to familiar

foods and reduce the stress. But pasta and grains are not, in my opinion,

the answer.

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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However, if and when one decides the diet is not working for them how would be the best way to transition back into a "normal" diet? If you have bowel issues, I would NEVER go back to a 'normal' diet. Maybe the SCD isn't working for you, but that doesn't mean you should just go off it and start eating a bunch of stuff that will just aggravate your symptoms. If I were you, I would at least stay gluten free and only eat natural sugars (fruit, maple syrup, honey, etc...), and then find other foods that might not work for you and stay off those too. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!

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If you go back to a normal diet, you may see how much this benefits you (or not).  Intentionally, I've gone off twice but within a matter of two months I was sick as a dog and wanted yogurt and chicken soup.

 

Some things I will never want to go back to--I was kind of sick all day yesterday from something that was cooked the way it has always been cooked and by someone who thought she was fixing it how I liked it ;-).  Oh my goodness...I like my way a lot better.

 

When I started this, finding a core group of foods was the hardest part because I couldn't eat very much then to find something on the list was even harder--veggies and fruits mainly.  So with the help of Kim M. and Marilyn, I came up with a core group of foods and rotated--for months.  I kept chicken soup, parmesan, yogurt, DCCC in the fridge at all times--maybe some chicken tenders--to snack on as a go-to.  I read the BTVC book looking for anything (ignoring advanced or early since I am totally the opposite) and finally found yellow squash, baby lima beans, young carrots, peaches, bananas (sometimes).  But this process took awhile.  Start with knocking off the ones you hate (you won't eat it anyway) then find a protein rotation (fish, beef, chicken, turkey, lamb, veal) then a couple or more veggies and a couple or more fruits if you can.  Switch up the cheese (parmesan, romano, cheddar, dry curd, etc.) and different sauces--honey mustard, oil/vinegar, homemade thousand island, homemade mayo, etc. and stay with that until you are feeling soooo much better and soooo bored with the menu that you start adding in new foods.  Don't forget eggs and steak if you can eat that.  Lentils may work for you even though they are advanced. 

 

Good luck.  Going off the diet isn't usually a problem--it's the hurry up and let me back on that creates the fuss ;-).

Debbie 40 cd

 

 However, if and when one decides the diet is not working for them how would be the best way to transition back into a " normal " diet? 

If you have bowel issues, I would NEVER go back to a 'normal' diet. Maybe the SCD isn't working for you, but that doesn't mean you should just go off it and start eating a bunch of stuff that will just aggravate your symptoms. If I were you, I would at least stay gluten free and only eat natural sugars (fruit, maple syrup, honey, etc...), and then find other foods that might not work for you and stay off those too.

Peace =)

Alyssa 15 yo

UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

No meds!

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> At 09:53 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote:

>> Any experience with this or advice?

>

> ,

>

> I have no experience with going off the SCD. I never have, not even when we

evacuated for Hurricane Katrina, and although I may ultimately relax some of my

strictness, I never will go off it. I will not go back to the misery of the 25

years in which doctors told me " Just take a little lomotil if it bothers

you.... "

>

> My advice, first of all, is to ditch the d@mned carrots. They made me soooo

sick, expecially if you are using those so-called " baby " carrots.

>

> Next, the soup is great, but I came to SCD right after emergency gall bladder

surgery, and could NOT make soup. I ate roasts. I ate steamed and pureed

vegetables. If Beef is too fatty for you, try Bison. Try broiled chicken

breasts, skin removed. Try steamed peeled zucchini.

>

> I understand you are scared. I understand you want to go back to familiar

foods and reduce the stress. But pasta and grains are not, in my opinion, the

answer.

,

I'm wondering if you have tried things like pecan butter or almond butter or

avocados.

Maybe you should make a list of things for us that you have tried and that don't

appear to be working at the moment.

And what, besides, chicken soup, that does.

But also, you are in a flare, so everything appears to be making you reactive at

the

moment. This won't continue indefinitely.

Also, have you tried just the yolk of the egg, soft boiled, say in the soup or

by itself.

Generally, it is the white that make people react - which is why, for example,

Natasha

McBride, in the beginning GAPS protocol, has people start with a raw organic egg

yolk in soup. The yolk apparently has protein that is easily absorbed. I'm a

little

squeamish about raw myself (well, except when I'm not, like in mayonnaise or ice

cream),

so I've generally done it with a soft boiled yolk instead.

But, anyway, here's the GAPS intro protocol (GAPS being an alternate form of

SCD with a few differences) - since you are having such a hard time with

beginning SCD, you might find a few ideas here that work for you:

http://www.gapsdiet.com/INTRODUCTION_DIET.html

And , if you are reading this, GAPS stands for Gut and Psychology Syndrome -

and since you are interested in the neurological connections between gut

and psychology, you might find this helpful as well - I can't remember if you

said you had read her book or not.

Regards,

Mara

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