Looking for BPD/DS surgeon in land

[Guest guest]

Does anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can you tell me about him?

Don't know anything about him but Dr. Hazem Elariny is in Northern VA, can't be too far from you.

You can find him at the ds site.

Kathy B

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He told me I didn't "want" the switch but didn't tell me why. He also said that the distal RNY was the "same" as the BPD...I've since found out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm putting my life in the hands of this man I want the EXACT and complete truth...a partial truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and my instincts are shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with another surgeon.

Good for you. I definitely agree if you are not 100% comfortable with your surgeon, you might not be getting what you want. When I went to meet mine, I'd been researching for awhile...and when he started talking in technical terms about "the switch" , limbs and lengths...I completely understood him.

And he agreed that the DS was what he'd like to try and why. So we were in complete agreement. I'm sure someone here knows the other surgeon...so I just wanted to say more power to you for not rushing thru and getting something you didnt want!

~~* AJ *~~

BMI 58

NW Washington Medical

DR Heap, Richland WA

Working on 1st appeal

[Guest guest]

It is nice to have a surgeon who gives you the warm fuzzies, but that

won't be what matters when it really counts. What you are paying him the

big bucks for is his surgical skill. Warm fuzzies may make your day, but

your life is in the balance when you are under the knife. Experience is

extremely important in this regard. Surgeons are notorious for fucussing

exclusively on their surgical skill at the expense of bedside manner and

communicativeness.

I've heard surgeons are this way also, but have never been operated on so I thought Dr Heap was that way in the exam and discussion period. But when he came out and talked to me and my dad and the other lady and her mom...he was very personable and quite fun to talk with. Very good sense of humor! I think these drs are exceptional in most cases in intelligence and skill and its because they are so clearly focused on that. When they are at your bedside, its business....and many I think treat it that way...which would come across as impersonal. I'll trade bed side manner for skill anyday...although the warm fuzzies would never be rejected...LOL

~~* AJ *~~

BMI 58

NW Washington Medical

DR Heap, Richland WA

Working on 1st appeal

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

After a consult and a personal telephone call I am not feeling very

comfortable with my choice of surgeon: Dr Apparoa Vanguri in

Baltimore, land. Despite all of my research and the good things

I've heard about him I am not so sure he is the doctor for me. He

told me a couple of things about the BPD/DS procedure that has shaken

my confidence that I've selected a surgeon that is totally on " my

side. "

He told me I didn't " want " the switch but didn't tell me why. He also

said that the distal RNY was the " same " as the BPD...I've since found

out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm putting my life in

the hands of this man I want the EXACT and complete truth...a partial

truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and my instincts are

shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with another surgeon.

I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org and found another

doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at both places. Does

anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can you tell me about

him?

Thanks to all of you for the advice and support that you offer.

Gwen

[Guest guest]

Gwen,

I don't know anything about Dr. Magnuson, but I know that Dr. Elariny

is fairly close to you in Fairfax, Virginia. There is a support

group list here on Yahoo! Groups for Dr. Elariny. If you want to

check it out, the URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DS_Elariny

Joy Frost Age: 48

Open DS with Deveney/Welker Date: 2-5-01

Common channel: 100cm Alimentary limb: 250cm

Weight at time of surgery: 255 lbs BMI: 47

Weight as of 5-28-01: 227 lbs BMI: 41.5 (-28 lbs)

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joy/joy.html

>

> I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org and found another

> doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at both places. Does

> anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can you tell me about

> him?

>

> Gwen

[Guest guest]

Hi Gwen,

There seems to be 2 Gwens in land. My e-mail address is different from yours, should we use an initial when signing off?

[Guest guest]

Gwen.....have you tried Dr. Elariny in Arlington, Va? I don't think that is too

far from Baltimore. He did my DS and I am VERY happy.....

Bobbi-jo

[Guest guest]

Magnuson is the Hopkins Bariatric surgeon. That says a lot. On the other

hand, if he does DS, then he just started in the last few weeks. He told

me he did not a month or so ago.

Good luck feeling " comfortable " with any surgeon. I have found most to

be on the arrogant side, and lacking in bedside manner. I go for the

skill and experience.

Elariny is not too far, Arlington, but is nowhere near as experienced as

Vanguri. I would urge you to take another run at Vanguri and press him

for a more thorough explanation of the procedures and why he made the

recommendation that he did. I know that he does a lot of DSes, so he may

have had a reason for saying what he did. It would be a shme to pass on

an excellent surgeon just because of miscommunication. If he has a

reason for not giving you what you want, then at least you will part

ways with an understanding.

It is nice to have a surgeon who gives you the warm fuzzies, but that

won't be what matters when it really counts. What you are paying him the

big bucks for is his surgical skill. Warm fuzzies may make your day, but

your life is in the balance when you are under the knife. Experience is

extremely important in this regard. Surgeons are notorious for fucussing

exclusively on their surgical skill at the expense of bedside manner and

communicativeness.

thin4ever@... wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> After a consult and a personal telephone call I am not feeling very

> comfortable with my choice of surgeon: Dr Apparoa Vanguri in

> Baltimore, land. Despite all of my research and the good things

> I've heard about him I am not so sure he is the doctor for me. He

> told me a couple of things about the BPD/DS procedure that has shaken

> my confidence that I've selected a surgeon that is totally on " my

> side. "

>

> He told me I didn't " want " the switch but didn't tell me why. He also

> said that the distal RNY was the " same " as the BPD...I've since found

> out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm putting my life in

> the hands of this man I want the EXACT and complete truth...a partial

> truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

>

> I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and my instincts are

> shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with another surgeon.

>

> I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org and found another

> doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at both places. Does

> anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can you tell me about

> him?

>

> Thanks to all of you for the advice and support that you offer.

>

> Gwen

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gwen,

I've heard someone on this list one time tell a newbie

that one of the surgeons actually tries to talk the

prespective patient out of having the DS just to see

if they really understand the procedure and really

want this bad enough to do what it takes to follow

through. I haven't had this experience so let me

stress that I saw that as a post, NOT as my own

personal experience so I can't speak to the truth of

it. I understand your frustration, I'd not be happy

either and would probably be looking for another

surgeon too. But a second talk may be in order before

you make your final decision. Best of luck. Angel

--- pieman@...> wrote:

> Magnuson is the Hopkins Bariatric surgeon. That says

> a lot. On the other

> hand, if he does DS, then he just started in the

> last few weeks. He told

> me he did not a month or so ago.

>

> Good luck feeling " comfortable " with any surgeon. I

> have found most to

> be on the arrogant side, and lacking in bedside

> manner. I go for the

> skill and experience.

>

> Elariny is not too far, Arlington, but is nowhere

> near as experienced as

> Vanguri. I would urge you to take another run at

> Vanguri and press him

> for a more thorough explanation of the procedures

> and why he made the

> recommendation that he did. I know that he does a

> lot of DSes, so he may

> have had a reason for saying what he did. It would

> be a shme to pass on

> an excellent surgeon just because of

> miscommunication. If he has a

> reason for not giving you what you want, then at

> least you will part

> ways with an understanding.

>

> It is nice to have a surgeon who gives you the warm

> fuzzies, but that

> won't be what matters when it really counts. What

> you are paying him the

> big bucks for is his surgical skill. Warm fuzzies

> may make your day, but

> your life is in the balance when you are under the

> knife. Experience is

> extremely important in this regard. Surgeons are

> notorious for fucussing

> exclusively on their surgical skill at the expense

> of bedside manner and

> communicativeness.

>

> thin4ever@... wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > After a consult and a personal telephone call I am

> not feeling very

> > comfortable with my choice of surgeon: Dr Apparoa

> Vanguri in

> > Baltimore, land. Despite all of my research

> and the good things

> > I've heard about him I am not so sure he is the

> doctor for me. He

> > told me a couple of things about the BPD/DS

> procedure that has shaken

> > my confidence that I've selected a surgeon that is

> totally on " my

> > side. "

> >

> > He told me I didn't " want " the switch but didn't

> tell me why. He also

> > said that the distal RNY was the " same " as the

> BPD...I've since found

> > out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm

> putting my life in

> > the hands of this man I want the EXACT and

> complete truth...a partial

> > truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

> >

> > I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and

> my instincts are

> > shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with

> another surgeon.

> >

> > I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org

> and found another

> > doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at

> both places. Does

> > anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can

> you tell me about

> > him?

> >

> > Thanks to all of you for the advice and support

> that you offer.

> >

> > Gwen

> >

> >

>

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> >

[Guest guest]

There is a DS surgeon in Silver Springs, MD.. I don't remember his

name, but he's listed on the DS info Zone Surgeon page.

Hugs,

Liane

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > After a consult and a personal telephone call I am

> > not feeling very

> > > comfortable with my choice of surgeon: Dr Apparoa

> > Vanguri in

> > > Baltimore, land. Despite all of my research

> > and the good things

> > > I've heard about him I am not so sure he is the

> > doctor for me. He

> > > told me a couple of things about the BPD/DS

> > procedure that has shaken

> > > my confidence that I've selected a surgeon that is

> > totally on " my

> > > side. "

> > >

> > > He told me I didn't " want " the switch but didn't

> > tell me why. He also

> > > said that the distal RNY was the " same " as the

> > BPD...I've since found

> > > out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm

> > putting my life in

> > > the hands of this man I want the EXACT and

> > complete truth...a partial

> > > truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

> > >

> > > I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and

> > my instincts are

> > > shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with

> > another surgeon.

> > >

> > > I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org

> > and found another

> > > doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at

> > both places. Does

> > > anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can

> > you tell me about

> > > him?

> > >

> > > Thanks to all of you for the advice and support

> > that you offer.

> > >

> > > Gwen

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > >

[Guest guest]

At 8:11 PM +0000 6/4/01, Lili F. wrote:

>There is a DS surgeon in Silver Springs, MD.. I don't remember his

>name,

Marcus.

--Steve

--

[Guest guest]

Hell Everyone,

It's Me Again with another question. Can anyone out there tell me

what happends to all the excess skin after weight loss my BMI is 73 and I

know I will have to walk and exercise, but am I looking at yet another

surgery? My Dr. has said nothing about this.

>

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Looking for BPD/DS surgeon in land

>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:11:11 -0000

>

>There is a DS surgeon in Silver Springs, MD.. I don't remember his

>name, but he's listed on the DS info Zone Surgeon page.

>Hugs,

>Liane

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > After a consult and a personal telephone call I am

> > > not feeling very

> > > > comfortable with my choice of surgeon: Dr Apparoa

> > > Vanguri in

> > > > Baltimore, land. Despite all of my research

> > > and the good things

> > > > I've heard about him I am not so sure he is the

> > > doctor for me. He

> > > > told me a couple of things about the BPD/DS

> > > procedure that has shaken

> > > > my confidence that I've selected a surgeon that is

> > > totally on " my

> > > > side. "

> > > >

> > > > He told me I didn't " want " the switch but didn't

> > > tell me why. He also

> > > > said that the distal RNY was the " same " as the

> > > BPD...I've since found

> > > > out that this is not exactly true. But, since I'm

> > > putting my life in

> > > > the hands of this man I want the EXACT and

> > > complete truth...a partial

> > > > truth, or his version of the truth, just won't do!

> > > >

> > > > I have learned long ago to trust my instincts and

> > > my instincts are

> > > > shouting at me to, at the very least, meet with

> > > another surgeon.

> > > >

> > > > I went to www.duodenalswitch.com and www.asbs.org

> > > and found another

> > > > doctor in land, Magnuson, listed at

> > > both places. Does

> > > > anybody know him? Has anybody used him? What can

> > > you tell me about

> > > > him?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks to all of you for the advice and support

> > > that you offer.

> > > >

> > > > Gwen

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

[Guest guest]

does it take more to have a ds than an rny? cheryl

[Guest guest]

Robin, Dr. Elariny does ALL the surgeries...

Bobbi-jo

[Guest guest]

I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who do both types of

bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch, and so on.... I was

under the impression that the DS surgeons just do that surgery. Was I

wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true life

experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

I think many that do the DS also do RNY...but most that do other various types tend not to do DS. I think DS is the hardest and most invasive to have done....

~~* AJ *~~

BMI 58

INSURANCE: NW Washington Medical (Rengence )

DR Heap, Richland WA

Denied due to exclusion and they can't make exception based on information provided.

Change dr, got documentation and working on 1st appeal

[Guest guest]

Was I

wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true life

experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

Dr. Elariny in Fairfax VA does all types of WLS. He talks with the patient to find out there eating habits and their lifestyle to find out which surgery would be best. At the consult he shows drawings of the different surgies and explains the pros and cons of each one.

Kathy B

Dr. Elariny

June 18

[Guest guest]

Hi Gwen, if you want the DS surgery, you have to find a surgeon who does

it and is experienced and knowledgeable to the benefits of this type of

surgery as opposed to the others. Of course he is going to tell you

" you " don't want this surgery, because he doesn't do it. And ASBS is

not going to necessarily send you to a qualified surgeon who does the

DS, either, because it's for all types of bariatric surgery. Your best

bet is making your own mind up about the type of surgery you want to

have, knowing all the good and bad and risks and benefits, and find

yourself the best most qualified doctor you can, then have a

consultation with him/her, and THEN make your decision. The only place

I know of that lists DS surgeons, no question, is

http://www.duodenalswitch.com under surgeons. Whenever a new surgeon

pops up, the site operators usually get on it and list that person.

They do seem to check them out as well as far as record and

accomplishments go. They really do their homework. And post ops are

very helpful in adding their own experiences so we have those there,

too. Lastly but not least, check your state's medical board and look

for your chosen surgeon's licensing status. I have the feeling you just

need to be pointed in the right direction. Good luck

Robin

[Guest guest]

Addendum to my previous post:

I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who do both types of

bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch, and so on.... I was

under the impression that the DS surgeons just do that surgery. Was I

wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true life

experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

Robin

[Guest guest]

I know Dr. Maguire of Kettering Ohio does both the RNY

and the BPD/DS. Angel

--- Robin Fahr fahrout@...> wrote:

> Addendum to my previous post:

>

> I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who

> do both types of

> bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch,

> and so on.... I was

> under the impression that the DS surgeons just do

> that surgery. Was I

> wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if

> anyone has some true life

> experiences or can point me in the right direction.

> Thanks

>

> Robin

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I know of no DS surgeon who did not do the RNY first. And many (if not

most) still do.

in Seattle

----- Original Message -----

> Addendum to my previous post:

>

> I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who do both types of

> bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch, and so on.... I was

> under the impression that the DS surgeons just do that surgery. Was I

> wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true life

> experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/01 12:01:15 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who do both types of

bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch, and so on.... I was

under the impression that the DS surgeons just do that surgery. Was I

wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true life

experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

>>

Robin: While many RNY surgeons only perform the RNY (or the RNY/VGB), I

think that those who do the DS do not only specialize in that surgery. All

the surgeons I have heard of or have researched perform a range of surgeries.

Dr. Gagner & Mt. Sinai gang, Dr. Ren who perform the DS here in NYC also

offer the RNY and VGB. Usually the type of surgery is decided upon at the

initial consult, based on BMI, eating habits, personal preference, etc.

All the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

four months post-op and still feelin' fab!

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:51:18 -0400 " Sitton " Sitton@...>

writes:

> Hell Everyone,

> It's Me Again with another question. Can anyone out there

> tell me

> what happends to all the excess skin after weight loss my BMI is 73

> and I

> know I will have to walk and exercise, but am I looking at yet

> another

> surgery? My Dr. has said nothing about this.

Hiya! my BMI is 71-- and you betcha there are at least two plastic

revisions in my future-- the upper arms and torso AKA the batwing

removal, and the tummy and upper thighs.

Now, if you are lucky and young, your skin may snap back-- Dr. Anthone

had a 19 yo guy who, after having surgery at 400 pounds, shrank back to

173 with no excess skin problem. Me, after loosing 100 lbs on Optifast

10 years ago, I had funny wrinkly bits under my chin and the beginnings

of folds on my upper arms. You can choose to live with the excess skin,

but if you get irritations and infections in the folds, then it becomes

medically necessary to get the stuff removed. Nan E

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[Guest guest]

Dr in Georgia does several types of surgery, not just the DS.

So does my doctor, Dr Warden. I kinda like having a doc that

does multiple surgery types, because then I feel more confident that

he'll recommend the one that he feels is best for ME.. not the one

that he does.

Hugs,

Liane

> Addendum to my previous post:

>

> I must say I was unaware that there are surgeons who do both types

of

> bariatric surgery, the DS and RNY, or VBG or pouch, and so on.... I

was

> under the impression that the DS surgeons just do that surgery. Was

I

> wrong? Citing some examples might be nice, if anyone has some true

life

> experiences or can point me in the right direction. Thanks

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Dr. Elariny does all types that I am aware of. I know I was a DS and

another person on his list got the RNY. He also does revisions.

Hopes this helps.

in Virginia

4/12/01

-45lbs

[Guest guest]

Boy do I feel dumb. This is SOO good to know, let me tell you! I like that the surgeon tries to find the best answer to each particular patient.

Thank you all for your gracious attitude toward someone who really should know better!

No reason to feel dumb at all.

Kathy