Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a lower carb scd diet. also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughts jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Here is my thought about honey: commercial brands, like SueBee Honey, are composed of honey that has been pooled from around the country, as well as imported from China. Chemicals that are banned for use in apiaries in the U.S. are routinely used in China. Those (banned) chemicals then get incorporated into the honey. Then that imported honey from China makes its way into the pool of commercial honey in the U.S. Who knows what is in that honey from China?? (I am highly skeptical of the safety of products from China, i.e. lead in toys, toxic drywall, etc.) I would not eat honey from any commercial source for that reason. Best to find a local producer. At least that way you can talk to the producer directly to find out their apiary practices. With pooled honey you don’t know what you are getting, IMO. I will research about Chinese honey so that I can cite a source. I learned this many, many years ago when I was taking beekeeping classes. Carol CD 21 yrs SCD 5 yrs From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of sayoel why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a lower carb scd diet. also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughts jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Personally, I've always done fine with honey. I always use either local honey or one that I find at a good store like Trader Joe's. I wouldn't purchase from a mass merchandise place due to worries about them cutting the honey with corn syrup. I don't eat a lot of almond flour, but do eat almond butter everyday. I've always read that almonds reduce inflammation due to a high amount of oleic acid (just like in olive oil). Go to http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3085/2 and you'll see almonds listed as " moderately anti-inflammatory. " Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a lower carb scd diet. also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughts > > jake > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a lower carb scd diet. Not only is honey high in carbs, which may or may not be an issue, it's super high in fructose and has much more fructose than glucose. Usually glucose helps the digestion of fructose, so when a food has a bad ratio it can be harder to digest.also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughtsIf they are mainly omega 6, then that definitely could be a reason IMO, thanks for sharing that. I know I can't have almonds, but I never really looked into why. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I thought honey was easily absorbed? I've read that it's considered " pre-digested " . Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it > > be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a > > lower carb scd diet. > > Not only is honey high in carbs, which may or may not be an issue, > it's super high in fructose and has much more fructose than glucose. > Usually glucose helps the digestion of fructose, so when a food has a > bad ratio it can be harder to digest. > > > also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro- > > inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with > > that..what r ur thoughts > > If they are mainly omega 6, then that definitely could be a reason > IMO, thanks for sharing that. I know I can't have almonds, but I never > really looked into why. > > Peace =) > Alyssa 15 yo > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Jake My reasons for not using honey are two: sends my blood sugar levels fluctuating wildly which throws off my metabolism for hours, and it is high in carbs, which my body also doesn't tolerate. I didn't plan to eat low to medium carb SCD foods only, but that is what I learned my digestion tolerates best. I can't use 100% almond flour in anything as it is too dense for my digestion as well; triggers upper GI symptoms and increases my constipation for several days. I always use a blend of nut flours in any recipe, keeping the almond flour to less than 50% of the total. And I have to limit myself to one serving of the nut flour item per day, regardless of what it is and regardless of whether there is a mix of nut flours. Again, my digestion doesn't handle carbs well at all. Just the way things are for me. I worked to find the permitted foods and recipes that my dysfunctional digestive system (and metabolism) would tolerate best and stuck with them for years. The limitations don't bother me as I'm eating well and even have to watch the quanities or I'll gain weight, which is a good sign indeed. Kim M. SCD 5+ years >>>>>>>>>> why do people have such a hard time with these producuts--could it be that honey is just too high in carbs--and maybe we should do a lower carb scd diet. also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughtsjake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 At 08:56 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote: also i was looking around and found that almonds are pro-inflammatory omega -6 --maybe thats is why people have issues with that..what r ur thoughts Not all Omega-6s are pro-inflammatory. Moreover, we need the correct balance of Omega-3s and Omega-6s. For instance, I use GLA -- gamma linolenic acid -- found in Evening Primrose Oil to control inflammation from a back injury. My alternative to it is codeine. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 At 10:25 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote: I thought honey was easily absorbed? I've read that it's considered " pre-digested " . It is. Granulated table sugar, or sucrose, has glucose and fructose hooked together, whereas in honey, fructose and glucose remain in individual units. Fructose doesn't convert to energy as efficiently as glucose. There are SCDers who are sensitive to fructose, however, and that may make any kind of nutritive sweetener a problem. Both glucose and fructose are technically legal, however. One should also realize that all fructose must be metabolized in the liver, which, if you have digestive issues there could make it a problem. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 My reasons for not using honey are two: sends my blood sugar levels fluctuating wildly which throws off my metabolism for hours, and it is high in carbs, which my body also doesn't tolerate. I didn't plan to eat low to medium carb SCD foods only, but that is what I learned my digestion tolerates best. I can't use 100% almond flour in anything as it is too dense for my digestion as well; triggers upper GI symptoms and increases my constipation for several days. I always use a blend of nut flours in any recipe, keeping the almond flour to less than 50% of the total. And I have to limit myself to one serving of the nut flour item per day, regardless of what it is and regardless of whether there is a mix of nut flours. Again, my digestion doesn't handle carbs well at all. Kim, I won't be trying honey probably ever either. I gave it up in 1975 when I found out I have hypoglycemia and I haven't eaten sugary stuff since. I know it's legal but frankly, I would rather keep my fruit which I get along with fine than mess up my blood sugar with something I haven't had in decades. Which is OK. I haven't tried much with baking and probably won't for some time, if only because I don't have eggs yet. I've had trouble with eggs for SO long that I feel I must be pretty advanced before I try a bit of that. But, if you don't mind my asking, what other flours do you mix with your almond flour in recipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hi , > My reasons for not using honey are two: sends my blood sugar levels > fluctuating wildly which throws off my metabolism for hours, and it > is high in carbs, which my body also doesn't tolerate. I didn't plan > to eat low to medium carb SCD foods only, but that is what I learned > my digestion tolerates best. You know.. you could of said this word for word about me. I just don't jive well with honey. Plus, once I start it's like the floodgates open. I feel lethargic and just terrible! I am not fruit heavy as well. But Squash is ok every couple of days. Have you tried coconut flour at all? Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 How well I understand about dealing with blood sugar fluctuations. Unfortunately I also have to be careful with fruits, for some of the same reasons as honey but mostly because of my dysfunctional upper GI which can't handle fiber. I generally use pecan meal/flour in the mix with almond flour. I often add a bit of walnut flour (my body craves walnuts!) depending on what kind of muffin or bread I'm making. My digestion has problems with cashew flour but I expect that would make a nice addition to a recipe. I'm not as fond of the taste of other tree nuts, so haven't experimented, but any ground nut should work well for our recipes. I found a terrific Austrian cookbook that uses nut flours exclusively for wonderful tortes (a long tradition in that country), and have begun to experiment and adapt the recipes to make them SCD-compliant. Hopefully I can restrain myself and not eat too much [grin]. I haven't yet purchased a nut grinder. I either use my food processor or a coffee bean grinder, depending on how much flour I need. I also purchase almond flour from Lucy's Kitchen several times a year (store it in my freezer), which does save time and energy. It helps that I live in a pecan-growing region. I can even pick my own pecans if I wish to, which I usually don't, but it means I can find pecans relatively easy in local stores and grind my own flour, or find a mail-order source in the next state for pecan meal and not have to pay much in shipping costs. Last year I started adding shredded coconut or making coconut flour (bought from Lucy's Kitchen) to an occasional batch of muffins. Makes a nice change. But I waited until my fifth year on SCD before I attempted to add such a sweet and fibrous food. And I have to eat coconut cautiously; one muffin per week with coconut in it is about all my body will tolerate. Worth it, though. All part of dealing with a tempermental and dysfunctional digestion and a poor metabolism. Kim M. SCD 5+ years >>>>>>>>>>>>> ......But, if you don't mind my asking, what other flours do you mix with your almond flour in recipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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