Re: Info on OT:: TT raw pet food

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Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

I'm thinking of getting one to attempt raw cat food, if I can find one

reasonable enough.

Mara

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:28:48 -0500, Mara Schiffren alcibiades@...>

wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

>

> I'm thinking of getting one to attempt raw cat food, if I can find one

> reasonable enough.

>

> Mara

What a good idea. We now have two (of our five) cats that are supposed to

be on special diets. Needless to say, that's very expensive.

I've been thinking about getting a meat grinder anyway, so I can start

making my own sausage. A second-hand one would be ideal (if it works!).

What about ebay or bonanzle? I'm going to try looking there, first of all.

n

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>

> > Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

> >

> > I'm thinking of getting one to attempt raw cat food, if I can find one

> > reasonable enough.

> >

> > Mara

>

> What a good idea. We now have two (of our five) cats that are supposed to

> be on special diets. Needless to say, that's very expensive.

>

> I've been thinking about getting a meat grinder anyway, so I can start

> making my own sausage. A second-hand one would be ideal (if it works!).

> What about ebay or bonanzle? I'm going to try looking there, first of all.

>

> n

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>

>

> --

> Now available. A fine Christmas gift for cat lovers:

> Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My

> Addiction

> by n Van Til

> www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S.,

> reduced shipping elsewhere; free gift wrapping

>

[Guest guest]

At 02:43 PM 12/14/2009, you wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas on

where to get a meat grinder second hand?

Well, if you're going to be grinding chicken wings (yeah, bones and all)

so the cats get their minerals, you need a very good kind of

grinder.

If you can find one, the Maverick #5 grinder is really good for this kind

of thing. I recommend a good cleaver, too. You can lay those wings or

drumsticks out and take out all your aggression and frustration on them

with your cleaver. WHACK! Take that! WHACK! Take that! And that! and

that! And then you really get going when you feed these whacked up pieces

into the grinder....

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_36989_36989

is another grinder which has been recommended by fur child raw food

enthusiasts. I have not used it myself, but I understand it's quite

good.

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Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

Craig's List? Freecycle?

[Guest guest]

Don't know where to get a grinder, but I do have a question about raw feeding

for cats. Can't cats eat things like chicken wings or necks whole? If they can

eat mice, I'm sure they could eat other things that aren't ground up. I raw

feed my dog and just toss him chicken quarters and such. Is it that different

for cats?

Liz

> Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

>

> I'm thinking of getting one to attempt raw cat food, if I can find one

> reasonable enough.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

Well, my cat is pretty old and doesn't have many teeth left - so when he was

young, yeah,

that might have worked (or not - I don't know - I never did it because I was

taught

not to feed cats bones when I was younger - though he did eat his share of

country mice)

but nowI serve it human food and raw food in smaller pieces.

Mara

> Don't know where to get a grinder, but I do have a question about raw feeding

for cats. Can't cats eat things like chicken wings or necks whole? If they can

eat mice, I'm sure they could eat other things that aren't ground up. I raw

feed my dog and just toss him chicken quarters and such. Is it that different

for cats?

>

> Liz

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>> Does anyone have any ideas on where to get a meat grinder second hand?

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>> I'm thinking of getting one to attempt raw cat food, if I can find one

>> reasonable enough.

>>

>> Mara

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[Guest guest]

I can see how an older cat might have problems with raw bones. For younger cats

and dogs, small raw bones are okay. They are designed to rip and chew raw meat

from smaller animals and the small bones that come along with it. I would NEVER

give my dog cooked chicken bones, unless they've been boiled for 24 hours - then

they're soft and really easy to digest.

Liz

> Well, my cat is pretty old and doesn't have many teeth left - so when he was

young, yeah,

> that might have worked (or not - I don't know - I never did it because I was

taught

> not to feed cats bones when I was younger - though he did eat his share of

country mice)

> but nowI serve it human food and raw food in smaller pieces.

>

> Mara

[Guest guest]

At 09:38 PM 12/14/2009, you wrote:

Don't know where to get a

grinder, but I do have a question about raw feeding for cats. Can't cats

eat things like chicken wings or necks whole? If they can eat mice, I'm

sure they could eat other things that aren't ground up. I raw feed my dog

and just toss him chicken quarters and such. Is it that different for

cats?

Mouse bones are quite a bit lighter and softer than chicken bones.

<g> Shadow and Sunny got whole, raw Cornish Game Hens for their

Thanksgiving Day Feast and has no problems.

Cats also need (I think; it's been awhile since I went over my

cat-feeding notes) a bit more of the organ meats than dogs do. I remember

my holistic vet saying that cats need more fat than dogs do, as

well.

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Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 10:18 PM 12/14/2009, Mara wrote:

Well, my cat is pretty

old and doesn't have many teeth left - so when he was young, yeah,

that might have worked (or not - I don't know - I never did it because I

was taught

not to feed cats bones when I was younger - though he did eat his share

of country mice)

but nowI serve it human food and raw food in smaller pieces.

Starblaze's Recipe

1.5 pounds ground raw chicken

2 raw egg yolks (jumbo)

1 tsp ground egg shells

6 capsules (6000 mg) salmon oil

6 capsules (3000 mg) taurine

6 capsules (400 IU ea) Vitamin E or equivalent in larger capsules

2 capsules freeze dried glands

2 ounces pulped peaches

6 capsules borage oil

Egg shells should be organic if possible -- use the ones from your

cooking! Dry carefully, then powder in a blender. Use this if you

don't have meat with the bones ground in.

Peaches were specific for regulating her thyroid. You can use other

vegetables, pureed in.

You'll notice this is pretty heavy in Omega fatty acids, which all

critters, humans included, seem to need more of as they get

older.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund