Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 You said: "It is massively traumatic, intrusive surgery, with many mortal risks." There are risks for everything, . It is that for many of us that the risk of remaining supermorbidly obsese is far greater than the minimal risks of surgery. There may be many mortal risks but those risks are tiny compared to risk of stroke, heart attack, etc., etc.. Best- Nick in Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 You said: " It is massively traumatic, intrusive surgery, with many mortal risks. " And with that said....let's not forget that there are many " mortal risks " in life...period. Car accidents, random acts of violence, dog attacks, killer bees..... Okay, being slightly silly here. It just seems to me that there is no point in arguing back and forth about something that we all are in agreement in one way or another. Yes, there are risks with the surgery, yes there are risks with staying obese...YES. That's why it all comes down to each individuals choice but with making that choice, there is some level of knowledge required and I think that's the only thing that people are saying here. We have the right to be informed so that we can make educated decisions about our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 I don't know what you mean. My point was not to say anyone should not have the surgery. In fact, my decision to have it was based on similar criteria to those you mentioned, though more imminent ones. How did you interpret what I said as an argument against havingthe procedure, if properly diagnosed? My point was that it isn't appropriate to sensationalize such a thing in the mass media. The risks to this surgery are profound. Many people have argued here eloquently that it SHOULD be widely promoted and publicized, but I will withdraw from the debate unconvinced. The system of modern Western medicine has its faults, to be sure, but I prefer it to medical policy by consensus of Internet mailing lists. I stand by my previous statements. I can't pursue the dabate here, but I will remain convinced that the best way to disseminate information like this is through the medical profession. And I will reiterate my condemnation of those who dispense advice on medical matters for which they have no license, legal or figurative. No, I am not saying all doctors are right. No, I am not saying that nothing should ever change. My belief is that medicine will come around at an appropriate speed, if all the glory heaped on DS is true. I think it is, and it will. Just not on TV. > You said: " It is massively traumatic, intrusive surgery, with many mortal risks. " > > There are risks for everything, . It is that for many of us that the risk of remaining supermorbidly obsese is far greater than the minimal risks of surgery. There may be many mortal risks but those risks are tiny compared to risk of stroke, heart attack, etc., etc.. > > Best- > > Nick in Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 I've heard many people say that when they learned about the DS they experienced hope again for the first time in years. I think every single MO person in the world ought to know about the DS. The public is flooded with sensational information/ advertising about diets, exercise and medications. The overweight to MO population are targeted audiences for the massive weight loss industry. Providing information about the DS would be a great gift to all MO folks. Whether or not they choose to have it done, it may provide some legitimate hope to folks who long gave up thinking that their lives could significantly improve. How would any of us like to be one of the people who never heard of the DS because it was decided to keep mum about it?? I don't think so. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- > My point was that it isn't appropriate to sensationalize such a thing > in the mass media. The risks to this surgery are profound. Many people > have argued here eloquently that it SHOULD be widely promoted and > publicized, but I will withdraw from the debate unconvinced. The > system of modern Western medicine has its faults, to be sure, but I > prefer it to medical policy by consensus of Internet mailing lists. > > I stand by my previous statements. I can't pursue the dabate here, but > I will remain convinced that the best way to disseminate information > like this is through the medical profession. And I will reiterate my > condemnation of those who dispense advice on medical matters for which > they have no license, legal or figurative. > > No, I am not saying all doctors are right. No, I am not saying that > nothing should ever change. My belief is that medicine will come > around at an appropriate speed, if all the glory heaped on DS is true. > I think it is, and it will. Just not on TV. > > > > You said: " It is massively traumatic, intrusive surgery, with many > mortal risks. " > > > > There are risks for everything, . It is that for many of us > that the risk of remaining supermorbidly obsese is far greater than > the minimal risks of surgery. There may be many mortal risks but > those risks are tiny compared to risk of stroke, heart attack, etc., > etc.. > > > > Best- > > > > Nick in Sage > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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