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I was over at Kaiser South City last week and talked to Sasha Stiles

(the medical director) about the stupidity of their stage 2 postop diet.

See, for stage 3 (normal lifetime food) they tell us to avoid carbs:

No pasta, rice, bread, beans, etc. etc.

But stage 2 includes cream of wheat, cream of rice, saltine crackers,

etc. And all the time I hear postops using stage 2 as an excuse to eat

carbs.

Stage 2 is just a very soft, full-liquid diet. There's nothing magical

about cream of wheat. It contains NO PROTEIN or other nutritional

value. Better for us to eat chicken baby food, beef baby food, etc. Of

course, it doesn't taste as comforting and lovely as cream of wheat.

Carbs turn to sugar in our mouths (thanks to the enzyme amylase, which

is in our saliva). We'd much rather have the completely fattening

empty calories of cream of wheat. But blended meat, yogurt, cottage

cheese, etc. would all be better for us than that crap.

Sasha said she agrees. Maybe someday soon Kaiser change stage 2 and

get rid of that confusing, contractictory recommendation.

Martha

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Martha I agree...I was taken back a little when they recommended

Cream of Wheat (something I never had tried until now) and stuff

like cream of mushroom?! It is very confusing.

Thanks for bringing that up.

azin

> I was over at Kaiser South City last week and talked to Sasha

Stiles

> (the medical director) about the stupidity of their stage 2 postop

diet.

> See, for stage 3 (normal lifetime food) they tell us to avoid

carbs:

> No pasta, rice, bread, beans, etc. etc.

>

> But stage 2 includes cream of wheat, cream of rice, saltine

crackers,

> etc. And all the time I hear postops using stage 2 as an excuse to

eat

> carbs.

>

> Stage 2 is just a very soft, full-liquid diet. There's nothing

magical

> about cream of wheat. It contains NO PROTEIN or other nutritional

> value. Better for us to eat chicken baby food, beef baby food,

etc. Of

> course, it doesn't taste as comforting and lovely as cream of

wheat.

> Carbs turn to sugar in our mouths (thanks to the enzyme amylase,

which

> is in our saliva). We'd much rather have the completely fattening

> empty calories of cream of wheat. But blended meat, yogurt, cottage

> cheese, etc. would all be better for us than that crap.

>

> Sasha said she agrees. Maybe someday soon Kaiser change stage 2 and

> get rid of that confusing, contractictory recommendation.

> Martha

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Martha, I also found it very very hard to make a

serving of cream of wheat. I mean one to two ounces

and that stuff is really yukie when it gets cold.

Just my thoughts on that one.

Pam Marsh

--- " Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) "

missazin@...> wrote:

> Martha I agree...I was taken back a little when they

> recommended

> Cream of Wheat (something I never had tried until

> now) and stuff

> like cream of mushroom?! It is very confusing.

>

> Thanks for bringing that up.

>

> azin

>

> > I was over at Kaiser South City last week and

> talked to Sasha

> Stiles

> > (the medical director) about the stupidity of

> their stage 2 postop

> diet.

> > See, for stage 3 (normal lifetime food) they tell

> us to avoid

> carbs:

> > No pasta, rice, bread, beans, etc. etc.

> >

> > But stage 2 includes cream of wheat, cream of

> rice, saltine

> crackers,

> > etc. And all the time I hear postops using stage 2

> as an excuse to

> eat

> > carbs.

> >

> > Stage 2 is just a very soft, full-liquid diet.

> There's nothing

> magical

> > about cream of wheat. It contains NO PROTEIN or

> other nutritional

> > value. Better for us to eat chicken baby food,

> beef baby food,

> etc. Of

> > course, it doesn't taste as comforting and lovely

> as cream of

> wheat.

> > Carbs turn to sugar in our mouths (thanks to the

> enzyme amylase,

> which

> > is in our saliva). We'd much rather have the

> completely fattening

> > empty calories of cream of wheat. But blended

> meat, yogurt, cottage

> > cheese, etc. would all be better for us than that

> crap.

> >

> > Sasha said she agrees. Maybe someday soon Kaiser

> change stage 2 and

> > get rid of that confusing, contractictory

> recommendation.

> > Martha

>

>

>

>

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