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Hi all: I read Joy Frost's post about her slow weight lose. She

mentioned before her surgery she was not a big eater. I was not a

big eater and I am a slow loser. I wonder if the bigger(before

surgery) eaters lose faster that those of us who were not big or

binge eaters? I wonder if age is a factor? Interesting? Opinions?

Sandy C.

2/28/01 Dr Anthone USC

GEHA/CCN

293 at consult

279 at surgery

238 today.

age 55

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On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:06:16 -0000 ellemaecollins@... writes:

> Hi all: I read Joy Frost's post about her slow weight lose. She

> mentioned before her surgery she was not a big eater. I was not a

> big eater and I am a slow loser. I wonder if the bigger(before

> surgery) eaters lose faster that those of us who were not big or

> binge eaters? I wonder if age is a factor? Interesting? Opinions?

>

Hi Sandy-- my guess is its the food factor. When I am being brutally

honest, I admit to putting away something like 3000 to 4000 cals a day on

the average-- not bad if I were a stevedore, but I am a desk jockey. I

can actually loose weight to a point, if I am tied up and fed no more

than 1600 cals a day, but as soon as you turn me loose, it is back to the

high cal choices. and bulk eating. It may be a metabolism thing. I have

tried to avoid extremely restrictive diets because I blow them in about a

week. So I have always gone for diets that have a lot of vegie filler--

bulk without cals. Well, except for the Optifast thing. So I am pretty

sure my metabolism may be slow, but it isn't catatonic. I like the

feeling of being full-- ancient childhood issues I am sure. So having the

old nip and tuck of the stomach should give me the feeling without the

bulk. Plus the tendency to eat at regular intervals will help with the

malabsorbtion thing, so long as I am careful to get the protein. (Or I am

totally nuts and this the worst decision of my life-- NOT)

Nan E.

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In a message dated 6/10/01 4:09:57 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Hi all: I read Joy Frost's post about her slow weight lose. She

mentioned before her surgery she was not a big eater. I was not a

big eater and I am a slow loser. I wonder if the bigger(before

surgery) eaters lose faster that those of us who were not big or

binge eaters? I wonder if age is a factor? Interesting? Opinions?

>>

Sandy C: Well, I was a big eater - my portion size was pretty big pre-op (I

realize that all the more now that I am post-op! LOL). I was not a binge

eater, though. I mainly ate carbs and other 'good food', but too damn much

of it.

I wouldn't say that I've been losing amazingly quickly, although I guess it

really hasn't been at a bad rate. I've lost about 57 lbs in over 4 months.

I have about 70 more to go to reach my ideal weight in the low 170's.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

four months post-op and still feelin' fab! :)

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Sandy, Sandy, Sandy. You are doing GREAT!!! In four months, you have lost 55

pounds, which is fantastic! You still have at least another 14 months in

your weight loss window. If we go with a very conservative scenario of you

losing an average of 5 pounds a month during that time, you can reasonably

expect to lose another 70 pounds before you're done, which would put you at

168 pounds. And that's the very conservative scenario. You will make it,

dear friend. I think at this point you must be thinking about what your

personal goal is, and what weight will give you a happy outcome. I think if

you are like many of us, your goal will change as you progress. I continued

to lose weight for a solid 18 months, and since then my weight has stayed

solidly between 156-158. But when I asked some good pals what they thought I

weighed -- ladies who wouldn't shine me on -- they each guessed much lower

than I am. One said 135, one said 138, and one said 142. And my sister who

I'm visiting with this week was amazed to see that I can fit into her size

10 jeans even though I'm a good 10 pounds heavier than her. LOL. When I

first started out, I said I'd be thrilled to just get under 180. Now, I'm

under 160, but I look closer to my " dream " weight of 145. I guess all this

long drawn-out monologue is just to say that numbers on the scale only tell

part of the tale. And also that where you are at only 4 months out is so far

from where you will be twelve or even six months from now. Try not to fret

too much over the numbers now, even though I know it's hard!!!

As to your question of whether your eating pattern as a pre-op has any

bearing on your rate of weight loss after surgery, I'm not sure there have

been any studies on this. I wasn't a volume eater as a pre-op either, and I

thought of myself as a fairly slow loser as well. It's always disconcerting

when you see others losing more and faster than you! But you also have to

keep in mind that they may have started out heavier, which accounts for a

lot of that. Delphine says that their center likes to see 50% excess weight

lost by the six-month mark. What's your height, Sandy? Maybe if we calculate

your %EWL, it'll give you a realistic sense of where you are at this point.

Hugs to you, sweet lady!

M.

---

in Valrico, FL, age 38

Starting weight 299, now 156

Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

http://www.duodenalswitch.com

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> Pre-surg eating affects Post-surg loss?

>

>

> Hi all: I read Joy Frost's post about her slow weight lose. She

> mentioned before her surgery she was not a big eater. I was not a

> big eater and I am a slow loser. I wonder if the bigger(before

> surgery) eaters lose faster that those of us who were not big or

> binge eaters? I wonder if age is a factor? Interesting? Opinions?

>

> Sandy C.

> 2/28/01 Dr Anthone USC

> GEHA/CCN

> 293 at consult

> 279 at surgery

> 238 today.

> age 55

>

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--- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Magruder " my weight has stayed

> solidly between 156-158. But when I asked some good pals what they

thought I

> weighed -- ladies who wouldn't shine me on -- they each guessed

much lower

> than I am. One said 135, one said 138, and one said 142. And my

sister who

> I'm visiting with this week was amazed to see that I can fit into

her size

> 10 jeans even though I'm a good 10 pounds heavier than her.

I have a theory. When we are all heavy we are told that we have dense

bones because of all the excess weight. When we loose the weight we

do everything in our power to stop the bone loss. I am not sure how

much the density adds to out weight but I would be curious to see

this tested.

Machelle

Post op

5-8-01

Dr Rabkin

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Thanks, ..

I've been wondering about the loss rate, cuz my surgeon's nurse told

me to expect like, 2 lbs a week.. & I wondered if that wasn't

awfully optimistic...

Hugs,

Liane

> Sandy, Sandy, Sandy. You are doing GREAT!!! In four months, you have

lost 55

> pounds, which is fantastic! You still have at least another 14

months in

> your weight loss window. If we go with a very conservative scenario

of you

> losing an average of 5 pounds a month during that time, you can

reasonably

> expect to lose another 70 pounds before you're done, which would put

you at

> 168 pounds. And that's the very conservative scenario. You will make

it,

> dear friend. I think at this point you must be thinking about what

your

> personal goal is, and what weight will give you a happy outcome. I

think if

> you are like many of us, your goal will change as you progress. I

continued

> to lose weight for a solid 18 months, and since then my weight has

stayed

> solidly between 156-158. But when I asked some good pals what they

thought I

> weighed -- ladies who wouldn't shine me on -- they each guessed much

lower

> than I am. One said 135, one said 138, and one said 142. And my

sister who

> I'm visiting with this week was amazed to see that I can fit into

her size

> 10 jeans even though I'm a good 10 pounds heavier than her. LOL.

When I

> first started out, I said I'd be thrilled to just get under 180.

Now, I'm

> under 160, but I look closer to my " dream " weight of 145. I guess

all this

> long drawn-out monologue is just to say that numbers on the scale

only tell

> part of the tale. And also that where you are at only 4 months out

is so far

> from where you will be twelve or even six months from now. Try not

to fret

> too much over the numbers now, even though I know it's hard!!!

>

> As to your question of whether your eating pattern as a pre-op has

any

> bearing on your rate of weight loss after surgery, I'm not sure

there have

> been any studies on this. I wasn't a volume eater as a pre-op

either, and I

> thought of myself as a fairly slow loser as well. It's always

disconcerting

> when you see others losing more and faster than you! But you also

have to

> keep in mind that they may have started out heavier, which accounts

for a

> lot of that. Delphine says that their center likes to see 50% excess

weight

> lost by the six-month mark. What's your height, Sandy? Maybe if we

calculate

> your %EWL, it'll give you a realistic sense of where you are at this

point.

>

> Hugs to you, sweet lady!

>

> M.

>

> ---

> in Valrico, FL, age 38

> Starting weight 299, now 156

> Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

> Lap DGB/DS by Dr. Rabkin 10-19-99

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com

>

> Direct replies: mailto:melanie@t...

>

> > Pre-surg eating affects Post-surg loss?

> >

> >

> > Hi all: I read Joy Frost's post about her slow weight lose. She

> > mentioned before her surgery she was not a big eater. I was not a

> > big eater and I am a slow loser. I wonder if the bigger(before

> > surgery) eaters lose faster that those of us who were not big or

> > binge eaters? I wonder if age is a factor? Interesting? Opinions?

> >

> > Sandy C.

> > 2/28/01 Dr Anthone USC

> > GEHA/CCN

> > 293 at consult

> > 279 at surgery

> > 238 today.

> > age 55

> >

> >

> >

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