Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Darla, Lucas is J-tube fed but also has a Mic-Key button in his stomach. Two stomas and two tubes. We are currently venting his G-tube the majority of times. My mother made wraps for Lucas which he wears on a regular basis. They are rectangular pieces made out of swimsuit material and she adds plush back elastic on the top and bottom and velcro sewn on to secure them. We have had either the velcro running vertically or horizontally. At night to prevent pulling on the J-tube we pin his extension of his feeding bag to the bottom of his pajama bottoms. It is important that that piece be that of the tube feeding bag since that will then be the first area pulled and thus prevent strain on the stoma itself. We are currently using the Embrace pump by Ross and the tube feeding bags actually have a little loop that you can put the safety pin through. Otherwise by taking a piece of tape and foding the ends on each side then attaching the tube you would be able to put the pin through and accomplish the same thing. Hope that makes sense. I will try to see if I can send a picture of Lucas wearing the wrap so you can see what has worked for us. HTH, Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Zipporrah has been started on 24 hour feedins a couple days ago and we are seeing major red irritation around the G-tube site because of the constant rubbing from the button and attachment piece. We use gauze and try to keep the attachment piece taped to her diaper and that is helping some but wondered what other people use to keep the tugging of the tube from happening. We have also used the flexi- track but due to tape irritaion, this hasn't been a good solution. Is there a way to make " something " to hold the tube in a place that the tugging will pull somewhere other than her button? Any ideas appreciated! It hasn't been fun having a 9 month old attached at all times, chasing after her as she has begun to crawl and get around now. Her muscle weaknes is very obvious in her legs and thigh/hips now that she's getting around, but she is still so determined and strong enough to make it work. Darla: mommy to Asenath, Zipporrah, Luke, and the other 6 kiddos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 The only time that we see Gracies button get irritated, is when it is getting too small. Her GI noticed the last one was too small, and said this is why she had granulation tissue. I know you have more experience with these than me, but maybe just a longer button will work. I have to admit, I don't envy you on the crawling thing. It must be hard keeping up with her, and making sure she does not hurt herself. I did see, once, a ball that will hold the pump. It is designed for little kids, and it rolls along with the child. It really looked pretty cool. I cannot remember the name but I will look again online and foward you the site if I find it. You may wish for something like this as she gets faster. Best wishes ,Mommy to (9), (7), Bre-Anne (6), Grace (2) and our newest arrival is due Sept. 20thFor the latest baby info, and to see our family check out:www.BabyCountDown.com?baby=4007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Darla, Is the tube flexible? I've noticed that Asher gets really red, bleeding around his site when I use the thickish, non-flexible tube that has a straight attachment to the mic-key button. The one with the right angle attachment that's flexible seems to avoid all the irritation. Anne R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Darla, sorry I searched everywhere I could for that ball. I just was unable to find it. I did think of a few other possible ideas. When Grace her first g tube (not the button) it really bothered her when it moved. We used to wrap her whole abdomen in gauze, or an ace bandage, with the tube coming through a slit. I know this would be hot in the summer, but it did keep it still. Also we used very snug fitting onesies, with the tube coming out of the leg part. I hope the irritation goes away for her. Poor little baby. ,Mommy to (9), (7), Bre-Anne (6), Grace (2) and our newest arrival is due Sept. 20thFor the latest baby info, and to see our family check out:www.BabyCountDown.com?baby=4007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Darla, I am sure that everyone has their own tricks but this is what we did. We switched buttons to an AMT Mini button because it offered less irritation than a Mickey. We also went to a pharmacy that sells medical supplies. I purchased a box of tubular dressing. It cost about $20 for the box and it lasted about 2 years. Cut a length of the dressing (get the size that fits an adult thigh or shoulder because it fits around a young child well) and wear it around the middle. We always put a PJ shirt on then put the tubular dressing over it (that way the button would not poke through the dressing). This eliminates a lot of the movement that you get when you wear a tube for a long time. If you are tubing for 24 hours then you could cut a piece of material and place it over the button and then place the tubular dressing over that. You can wash and dry the dressing so it can be reused basically until you lose it in the wash. This is also fairly cool because the dressing has holes in it--helps lessen the chance of overheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 You can take one of your old socks and cut toes off then pull it up her leg and hold down the tube that way. There is a great website for g-tube ideas on yahoo. Hope it helps > >Reply-To: Mito >To: Mito >Subject: G-tube irritation prevention ? >Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 02:30:42 -0000 > > Zipporrah has been started on 24 hour feedins a couple days ago >and we are seeing major red irritation around the G-tube site because >of the constant rubbing from the button and attachment piece. We use >gauze and try to keep the attachment piece taped to her diaper and >that is helping some but wondered what other people use to keep the >tugging of the tube from happening. We have also used the flexi- >track but due to tape irritaion, this hasn't been a good solution. >Is there a way to make " something " to hold the tube in a place that >the tugging will pull somewhere other than her button? Any ideas >appreciated! > It hasn't been fun having a 9 month old attached at all times, >chasing after her as she has begun to crawl and get around now. Her >muscle weaknes is very obvious in her legs and thigh/hips now that >she's getting around, but she is still so determined and strong >enough to make it work. > >Darla: mommy to Asenath, Zipporrah, Luke, and the other 6 kiddos > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Not sure quite what you mean by flexible but I do know that since the FDA banned some type of ingredient that causes the new attachments to become hard very quickly, is part of the problem. The old attachments were bendable and worked much better than the new ones. The new ones become hard within a couple uses and then become almost rigid and form into certain shapes which can pull. But the biggest issue we are having is her constantly crawling away from her backpack and pulling on it. We have to stay with her and try to keep up but sometimes it just hasn't worked. Plus her G-tube was only placed about 2-3 months ago so it is still in the healing phase. It hasn't ever grown any granulation tissue amazingly, just a reddened area of irritation. We use the mic-key button attackment pieces and I have only seen one form so if another is available, let me know. Darla > Darla, > > Is the tube flexible? I've noticed that Asher gets really red, bleeding > around his site when I use the thickish, non-flexible tube that has a straight > attachment to the mic-key button. The one with the right angle attachment that's > flexible seems to avoid all the irritation. > > Anne R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 We have been using the onsie idea actually and it definitely helps, but not enough I guess. We have been using a piece of tape and forming a little loop with the tube so if it got tugged on it would tug on her diaper and loop rather on the tummy, but it still hasn't been enough. I sure wish the flexi track would work for her as it really solves the issue. I love the ball idea! An open bowl with wheels or some type of rolling item that wouldn't tip over would really be great if it didn't cause more irritation, that is! Thanks for your ideas. I have been fiddling around with different ideas and am sure we will come up with something, but I think I heard someone on the list about a year ago mentioning some type of wrap they sew for their child that was a big help. Darla > Darla, sorry I searched everywhere I could for that ball. I just was unable > to find it. I did think of a few other possible ideas. When Grace her > first g tube (not the button) it really bothered her when it moved. We used to > wrap her whole abdomen in gauze, or an ace bandage, with the tube coming > through a slit. I know this would be hot in the summer, but it did keep it still. > Also we used very snug fitting onesies, with the tube coming out of the leg > part. I hope the irritation goes away for her. Poor little baby. > > , > Mommy to (9), (7), Bre-Anne (6), Grace (2) and our newest > arrival is due Sept. 20th > > For the latest baby info, and to see our family check out: > _www.BabyCountDown.com?baby=4007_ (http://www.babycountdown.com/? baby=4007) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Thanks for the great idea. I will look into the tubular dressing to see it would be something I want to try. I want to make sure whatever I use is tight enough to hold the tube in place and yet not so tight to cause discomfort. Darla > Darla, > > I am sure that everyone has their own tricks but this is what we did. We > switched buttons to an AMT Mini button because it offered less irritation than a > Mickey. We also went to a pharmacy that sells medical supplies. I purchased > a box of tubular dressing. It cost about $20 for the box and it lasted about 2 > years. Cut a length of the dressing (get the size that fits an adult thigh or > shoulder because it fits around a young child well) and wear it around the > middle. We always put a PJ shirt on then put the tubular dressing over it > (that way the button would not poke through the dressing). This eliminates a > lot of the movement that you get when you wear a tube for a long time. If you > are tubing for 24 hours then you could cut a piece of material and place it over > the button and then place the tubular dressing over that. You can wash and > dry the dressing so it can be reused basically until you lose it in the wash. > This is also fairly cool because the dressing has holes in it-- helps lessen the > chance of overheating. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 > Thanks for the great idea. I will look into the tubular > dressing to see it would be something I want to try. I want to make > sure whatever I use is tight enough to hold the tube in place and yet > not so tight to cause discomfort. > Darla, That is why this is so comfortable. It is not tight at all. But everythign stays still. You can purchase a length of it instead of the whole box if you want to try it out. You should purchase about a foot. It looks too skinny for a kiddo but stretches out tons. We really liked this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Darla, I suggest cutting a holer in a onesie right at the Mic-key site and then taping the extension tubing to the onsie. We did this with camasoles since was too big for onsies. e In a message dated 7/24/2004 10:46:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, " " tbnkatie@...> writes: >Darla, > >I am sure that everyone has their own tricks but this is what we did. We >switched buttons to an AMT Mini button because it offered less irritation than a >Mickey. We also went to a pharmacy that sells medical supplies. I purchased >a box of tubular dressing. It cost about $20 for the box and it lasted about 2 >years. Cut a length of the dressing (get the size that fits an adult thigh or >shoulder because it fits around a young child well) and wear it around the >middle. We always put a PJ shirt on then put the tubular dressing over it >(that way the button would not poke through the dressing). This eliminates a >lot of the movement that you get when you wear a tube for a long time. If you >are tubing for 24 hours then you could cut a piece of material and place it over >the button and then place the tubular dressing over that. You can wash and >dry the dressing so it can be reused basically until you lose it in the wash. >This is also fairly cool because the dressing has holes in it--helps lessen the >chance of overheating. > > > > > > >Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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