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Since we talk bathroom here... I've been doing great- no major symptoms. I woke

up last night a little nauseated. This morning I went and passed a large (like

really large) amount of mostly hard stool until the end which was a little

mushy. No B, no pain.. I must have been " backed up " as the nausea is gone. No

major changes in diet. My symptoms initially were D from mild UC, so this is a

change.

I'm thinking this is a good thing- that all this came out. I'm almost 8 months

into SCD. Is this a die- off ?

Any advice?

Thanks,

PJ

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I'm thinking this is a good thing- that all this came out. I'm almost 8 months into SCD. Is this a die- off ? Have you had D up until now, or trophies? Seems like your colon might be trying to get used to having solid BMs again, and doesn't quite have it down pat yet =) Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds!

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Mostly trophies- but not until several months on SCD.

PJ

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> > I'm thinking this is a good thing- that all this came out. I'm

> > almost 8 months into SCD. Is this a die- off ?

>

>

> Have you had D up until now, or trophies? Seems like your colon might

> be trying to get used to having solid BMs again, and doesn't quite

> have it down pat yet =)

>

> Peace =)

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds!

>

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Is this the first time you're passing a hard, firm stool in months? BTW, what

are " trophies " ?

Sorry PJ, I don't have a specific answer.

But I have a question: When I go to the bathroom, sometimes it looks like it is

firm as it comes out but after being on the commode a bit, it gets slowly

fragmented... Is this considered mushy or firm or fragmented or what you'd call

it?

Thanks.

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>

>

> Is this the first time you're passing a hard, firm stool in months? BTW, what

are " trophies " ?

>

> Sorry PJ, I don't have a specific answer.

>

> But I have a question: When I go to the bathroom, sometimes it looks like it

is firm as it comes out but after being on the commode a bit, it gets slowly

fragmented... Is this considered mushy or firm or fragmented or what you'd call

it?

in between stage.

Mara

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Mara- has this ever happened to you?

PJ

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> >

> >

> > Is this the first time you're passing a hard, firm stool in months? BTW,

what are " trophies " ?

> >

> > Sorry PJ, I don't have a specific answer.

> >

> > But I have a question: When I go to the bathroom, sometimes it looks like it

is firm as it comes out but after being on the commode a bit, it gets slowly

fragmented... Is this considered mushy or firm or fragmented or what you'd call

it?

>

> in between stage.

>

> Mara

>

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Trophies are so perfect you want to take a picture of them LOL

>

>

>

> Is this the first time you're passing a hard, firm stool in months? BTW, what

are " trophies " ?

>

> Sorry PJ, I don't have a specific answer.

>

> But I have a question: When I go to the bathroom, sometimes it looks like it

is firm as it comes out but after being on the commode a bit, it gets slowly

fragmented... Is this considered mushy or firm or fragmented or what you'd call

it?

>

> Thanks.

>

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> Getting all blocked up, like what just happened?

Sounds like you are having a bit of a change in your

gut ecology. The nausea is likely a by product of

accumulated toxins being released out of your body.

So some die off, I would guess, as things change a

bit.

How long have you been on LDN now?

Did you feel blocked up?

I've on great occasion - maybe a couple times at most -

had nausea associated with a bathroom visit/transiting of

a BM.

I don't tend to have really hard stools - so can't directly address

that.

Mara

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I've been on LDN since Sept but just recently been upped to the full dose of 4.5

mg for 2-3 weeks.

Didn't feel blocked at all. It was a surprise. Have had some C from time to

time, but not like this.

I was thinking gut ecology is changing- hopefully for the better.

PJ

>

> >

> > Getting all blocked up, like what just happened?

>

> Sounds like you are having a bit of a change in your

> gut ecology. The nausea is likely a by product of

> accumulated toxins being released out of your body.

> So some die off, I would guess, as things change a

> bit.

>

> How long have you been on LDN now?

>

> Did you feel blocked up?

>

> I've on great occasion - maybe a couple times at most -

> had nausea associated with a bathroom visit/transiting of

> a BM.

>

> I don't tend to have really hard stools - so can't directly address

> that.

>

> Mara

>

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At 09:07 AM 12/20/2009, you wrote:

BTW, what are

" trophies " ?

" Trophies " are properly formed stools which do not disintegrate

when they hit the water in the toilet. It's a joke from the early days of

the original SCD list. That when you did SCD correctly, you got a trophy

for your efforts.

If they sit there for awhile, even the stools of " normal "

people disintegrate.

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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I know this might seem strange, but since I've been on this diet, I I've been less regular (have more D and C) than before I started. However, I have less uncontrollable gas and feel more clear-headed. It seems like I traded one for another, but I'm hoping it's a good thing that I'll get adjusted to. Maybe it's a gut ecology thing like what was said below. I've also been getting less exercise due to more cooking but hope to start back soon.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 10:40:57 AMSubject: Re: weird bathroom experience

I've been on LDN since Sept but just recently been upped to the full dose of 4.5 mg for 2-3 weeks.Didn't feel blocked at all. It was a surprise. Have had some C from time to time, but not like this.I was thinking gut ecology is changing- hopefully for the better.PJ> > > > > Getting all blocked up, like what just happened?> > Sounds like you are having a bit of a change in your> gut ecology. The nausea is likely a by product of> accumulated toxins being released out of your body.> So some die off, I would guess, as things change a> bit. > > How long have you been on LDN now? >

> Did you feel blocked up? > > I've on great occasion - maybe a couple times at most -> had nausea associated with a bathroom visit/transiting of> a BM. > > I don't tend to have really hard stools - so can't directly address> that. > > Mara>

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LOL... ROlling on the floor, laughing!

> >BTW, what are " trophies " ?

>

> " Trophies " are properly formed stools which do

> not disintegrate when they hit the water in the

> toilet. It's a joke from the early days of the

> original SCD list. That when you did SCD

> correctly, you got a trophy for your efforts.

>

> If they sit there for awhile, even the stools of " normal " people disintegrate.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

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We are certainly changing our diet. I started with the C when I decided to

reduce carbs and eat less fruit. It's sort of a balance between too much

fruit/veggies and mushy stools to too little and harder ones.

Trying to get this right. I guess this is trial and error. Not wanting to be

graphic, but this last one was a trophy- an elephant trophy.

PJ

> >

> > >

> > > Getting all blocked up, like what just happened?

> >

> > Sounds like you are having a bit of a change in your

> > gut ecology. The nausea is likely a by product of

> > accumulated toxins being released out of your body.

> > So some die off, I would guess, as things change a

> > bit.

> >

> > How long have you been on LDN now?

> >

> > Did you feel blocked up?

> >

> > I've on great occasion - maybe a couple times at most -

> > had nausea associated with a bathroom visit/transiting of

> > a BM.

> >

> > I don't tend to have really hard stools - so can't directly address

> > that.

> >

> > Mara

> >

>

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